Where are we going with smartphones? The specs on the latest devices are fucking ridiculous...

Where are we going with smartphones? The specs on the latest devices are fucking ridiculous. What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?

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They're better than most PCs now.

performance wise arm CPUs are still far behind high end x86 ones, clock speed means nothing

Because stupid consumers. That is all these specs are, advertising.

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?
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moar multitasking

>The specs on the latest devices are fucking ridiculous. What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?
Like user up there said, they are becoming better than PCs in some ways now.

You'd be very surprised. The 4-core 2.3Ghz mongose module on the exynos S7 is inching very close to laptop i3 performance.

However I think eventually we will get rid of ARM altogether and make phones that have an x86 processor (probably core-M) that dual-boot Android and a desktop version of Windows.

for the average person the phone is replacing the need for a pc. unless your job requires it or you are a student or you are a gayman then you don't need a pc, just a phone/tablet.

G A M E S

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Anyway here is proof that a phone processor now has better multi-core FP performance than a laptop i3. Whether that exynos S7 Edge used all 8-cores to achieve that multi-core FP performance is something I can't verify.

browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/672930?baseline=6992798

Lenovo 20ASS01F00 Laptop processor:
>i3-4100 (2 haswell x86 cores @ 2.4 Ghz with a TDP of 37W)
>Geekbench 3 multi-core FP score: 6313

Exynos S7 Edge processor:
>Exynos 8890 (4 ARM mongoose cores @ 2.3 GHz + 4 ARM Cortex-A53 cores @ 1.6 Ghz with an estimated TDP of 10W)
>Geekbench 3 multi-core FP score: 6128

Does this mean that ARM is now more energy efficient than x86? Probably not, those Xeon-D processors are energy efficient as fuck and I don't think ARM has anything that offers the same performance-per-watt.

Finally this could mean people will stop buying laptops altogether as more useful ARM software becomes available on phones. That's the main thing keeping laptops with x86 processors relevant for now.

*Intel Core i3-4000M
whoops, sorry about that guys.

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?

>What is android?

>>What is android?
Haha very funny, now take a look at pic related. :^)

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?

Running Android.

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?
A lot of android apps are really inefficient with memory. RAM is cheap anyway, so it's not like anyone cares about losing in extra few cents in manufacturing for better marketing.

RISC processors have so many cores because they cannot dynamically scale in frequency and power the way x86 can, so literally the only way to save power when the phone is idling is to switch to a different set of cores that are inherently sower and more efficient.

Not getting into what is better, because it's really a subjective thing... but you have to admit that android is a fucking java-running resource hog.

see ARM has gotten better over time, now 4 mongoose cores BTFO 2 x86 cores.

Compensating for a shit OS mostly.

On the exynos S7 only 4 of the 8 cores are used at the same time (performance or energy efficiency) and it inches extremely close to iPhone 6S Plus performance. Though I think all the bloat pre-installed is holding back the performance of the Exynos 8890 otherwise it'd perform like 25% faster than the iPhone 6S Plus.

I don't get what does that Samsung sd card have to do with the greentext under?
Also half of those points are bullshit btw, I hope this is bait

Oh, I wasn't saying anything bad about the architecture, just that it needs a larger amount of cores to work properly. In this case, a 2C/4T chip vs 8C, and to the layperson this may seem absurd, since most people are accustomed to the typical "symmetrical" layout on desktops, where each core contributes equally to the performance of the device.

>desktop version of Windows.

Ah, looking forward to that!

I utilize it for shitposting at work with 1440p very sharp display and jerling off to porn in bed.

This is the limit of application for a handheld device with touch controls. Any real work or antything more advanced requires physical input devices.

>Also half of those points are bullshit btw, I hope this is bait
Your post looks like bait. Do you honestly believe iPhones are not dogshit? I used to own one btw.

Cellphones are like TVs now
They need some new gimmick to make people change their phones

Nigga are you retarded? It's not like the phone can use all 8 cores at the same time else it'd burst into flames. The Exynos S7 can only use 4 A53 cores for improved battery life or 4 mongoose cores for performance.

>it'd perform like 25% faster than the iPhone 6S Plus.
Gonna need proof on that.

>tfw people with iPhone 6,Huawei Y6,Allview P5 Life,Galaxy S6
>my phone is a Galaxy Grand Duos running CyanogenMod
>CM is free,as far as I know. Feel free to correct me on this.

Freedom,motherfuckers

>Cellphones are like TVs now
More like fucking laptop replacements, see

A phone is never going to be a laptop replacement. A laptop is useful because it has a big screen, a keyboard and a desktop OS.

normies don't even use computers anymore. it's fucking crazy how much web traffic comes from smartphones

>A laptop is useful because it has a big screen, a keyboard
You can plug your phone into your TV and use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse.

>and a desktop OS.
This is the only thing holding back phones from completely replacing laptops to be honest. Either we get better ARM software or phones come with x86 processors and dual-boot mobile and desktop OSs but I see no other destination but the trash bin for laptops.

The fact that there is a lot of traffic from phones doesn't mean people don't use computers.

You think that is why phones have so much specs? Definitely not.

Companies want to sell you as many devices as possible, they don't want a all in one device.

Also, a notebook is useful because you can use it anywhere, not just places where you have TVs and keyboards.

Apple doesn't need to go nuts on hardware because iOS is high quality software. Android is garbage and you need a more powerful phone every year to avoid lag.

Runnning botnet in the background and more ad space on screen

You don't want to miss out on a Pokémon.

yes it does (am I'm not saying people literally don't use computers anymore)

TV's simply don't provide what monitors do

Holla at this user

No it does not.

Yeah this is the classic "ex iPhone 6s owner here" that actually has never used an apple product in his fucking life.
People that make these kind of list has literally no idea about what the average consumer wants from a smartphone

>Also, a notebook is useful because you can use it anywhere, not just places where you have TVs and keyboards.
You can also use your smartphone anywhere. Look mang, if all you're doing is torrenting some shows, watching cat videos, or typing up stuff in your personal diary then you don't need a big bulky notebook to do that. Technology is advancing and notebooks/laptops are going to become ancient trash nobody will ever use anymore, accept that.

>TV's simply don't provide what monitors do
The MHL adapter isn't limited to TVs, you can connect it to a monitor or even a projector as well.

You sound poor to be honest. How much credit card debt you in? Last I checked only poor people buy iPhones to pretend to be rich while having massive crippling debt.

>Look mang, if all you're doing is torrenting some shows, watching cat videos, or typing up stuff in your personal diary then you don't need a big bulky notebook to do that

You are right, you don't, but most people will use a notebook to do that because its better.

> Technology is advancing and notebooks/laptops are going to become ancient trash nobody will ever use anymore, accept that.

Not really, Like I said, a notebook is useful because it has a big screen, a keyboard and a desktop OS.

As much as I love Android, it's slightly annoying that iPhones outperform the best Android smartphone no matter how the insane specs are.

As far as I know, you can access all 8 cores at the same time, if the program is designed to take advantage of that.

So you think because iPhones can be cheap on a expensive monthly plan that iPhone users are poor? How mad are you?

It literally does. Increased traffic can mean two things: overall market growth and fluctuation in totals between device segments within said market, both of which are happening. Look at the numbers.

That is not what it means.

Just because people are using mobile more doesn't mean that they are not using computers at all.

You need another source for that.

You can'tbe more wrong. They are goung to make PC OSes more like smartphone onea, not the other one way around. We already had PC/PC-looking OSes on early tablets and smartphones, and they didn't get accepted at all by the public.

They need to compete with iPhones somehow.

>i cant into economics
Sounds like an android cuck to me

>As far as I know, you can access all 8 cores at the same time, if the program is designed to take advantage of that.
That's literally not possible. You're talking about using 2 modules that each probably have a max tdp of ~10 watts. You can't pull ~20 watts from a phone battery without running into problems m8.

Nice projection there lad.

I don't get it.

I have a mid range phone that was like 200€ and there is nothing I find lacking about it.

The 1280x720 screen is sharp enough. Sure I could tell the difference between it and a higher res screen but the resolution doesn't bother me.

It has a Snapdragon 410 and 2GB RAM and I have yet to encounter any lag. Even with several apps and browser tabs open. I don't play video games but I did try out a few and they all ran smoothly.

It supports MicroSD so storage is not an issue.

The camera is good enough.

It's light and thin enough to not bother me.


I don't get why people spend several hundreds on the newest flagship phone. What exactly do they need all those high-end specs for? I would only get a new flagship phone if I was so rich that 1000€ would be like 10€ for me.

It's a status symbol.

I don't get why you're using reddit spacing either.

How can a phone be a status symbol if literally everyone has it?

A $100,000 super car is a status symbol. A $600-800 phone you can buy on credit with a phone contract is not.

That's not what I'm saying. I am saying it is largely shifting into the mobile sphere for the average user.

It's pretty fascinating how normies can cope with such a crippled device. I'd go batshit insane if I could not use my desktop for more than a day.

If you used a recent flagship (Note 5, S7, HTC 10, etc) you'd see the difference. Is it worth it? That's subjective.

Your smartphone is a computer you dip

SRRY RANDOM user IN THIS HANDHELD BATTERY POWERED MULTIFUNCTIONAL SMART DEVICE VS. STATIONARY AC MAINS POWERED COMPUTER WITH EXTERNAL PERIPHERALS THREAD

Well we've for some reason established that the only form of input we need is a feedbackless glass slate, Everything released in the last decade or so looks practically the same due to this so to start making generic glass slate x look more appealing than y they've started doing endless and needless spec bumps on things that simply don't need spec bumps like the memory, display, core count, etc. and here we are

>You sound poor to be honest. How much credit card debt you in? Last I checked only poor people buy iPhones to pretend to be rich while having massive crippling debt.

Sums up my experience with most iPhone users. Crippling debt and attempting to give off certain airs of class. Living beyond their means. Sad.

I'm sure not all but most appear to be in the above scenarios.

Luxury. That's it really.

iPhone users are richer than android users. They can afford it.

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?
Running a JVM.

I wish that was the case. I've seen groups of juggalo girls with iPhones even. Low class trash. Spics love the iPhone and they're almost always illegals or some sort of low class spic too. All kinds. I can hit up TJ Maxx or Marshalls and buy some Ralph Lauren or Polo but that doesn't make me rich.

Will I be able to install Gentoo?

I run Winbotnet on mine and Manjaro. Who doesn't?

>I wish that was the case

You wish? There is nothing to wish here breh. Its a fact. iPhone users are richer than android users.

Writing fictional stories in a aboriginal rock sculpting internet forum won't change that.

They're far behind LOW-end x86 ones, too. A laptop i3 will still mop the floor with any smartphone.

Mobile CPUs have a lot of specialized hardware, like hardware AES, but they're far slower for general workloads.

My Zenfone 2 ZE551ML runs circles around a Galaxy S6. I haven't gotten a hold of an S7 for any length of time yet. It's a damn shame Intel didn't push into mobile phone space more.

More cores isn't just about performance. It's also about efficiency. One fast core uses more power than several small ones, so if you can split your problem across a few threads you waste less battery life.

Why did you reply to me? I doesn't understand what your post has to do with mine.

virtual reality.

smart smartphones when?

I think the fact that the s7 is pushing a gazillion pixel more would make the 'speed test' invalid

Like the decline in pc market?

>because they cannot dynamically scale in frequency and power the way x86 can
But they can, Big.little was another way to get more power saving without sacrificing performance at the expense of die space
The 2011 Qualcomm SoC's had like 10 different frequency states with different voltages

This, early big.little chips had to use either the power saving cores or the powerful cores, but pretty much every newer SoC is able to use all the cores at the same time, though recent SoC's will throttle at full load
>You're talking about using 2 modules that each probably have a max tdp of ~10 watts. You can't pull ~20 watts from a phone battery without running into problems m8.
The 8890 throttles to keep thermals/power in control when all the cores are under load

This. People seem to overlook that the S7 is driving ~4 million fucking pixels while the iPhone 6S only has to deal with only ~2 million pixels on it's ancient 2012 screen.

*iPhone 6S Plus

This is the only true answer, VR need a lot of horsepower.

>reading comprehension
He's talking about the lowest of the low end x86, phone processors. So he's backing up your point that ARM are far behind low end x86.

>You'd be very surprised. The 4-core 2.3Ghz mongose module on the exynos S7 is inching very close to laptop i3 performance.
No.
And don't use Geekbench as an way of measuring relative performance. It doesn't fucking work. People have done a bunch of actual software benchmarks (things like extracting large files, running scripts in office applications, etc) with the iPad Pro after claims that it is as good as an i5 due to Geekbench results and it was found to lag significantly in real world applications.

You just can't compare them.

running android

Why so many pixels? Once you hit Retina resolution (pixels are not distinguishable at normal viewing distance) the extra pixels serve no purpose, except perhaps for dick-waving. Like having a color gamut that includes ultra-violet.
It's a pity the engineers concerned don't understand why they are doing what they are doing.

>I can hit up TJ Maxx or Marshalls and buy some Ralph Lauren or Polo but that doesn't make me rich.
You just described me desu

Because look the number's bigger so that means it's better!

>Quad core
>Current year
Try 10-core.
gizmag.com/meizu-pro-6/42797/

Who the fuck torrents in a phone

>What are people doing on smartphones that needs 8GB of RAM and quad core processors?

I work at a phone store with a repair center and you would not believe how many people are retarded enough to bring in both iPhones and Androids that are running slow, and all you have to do is wipe the phone clean and restore it because of all the bullshit poorly coded shitware they run on their phone

>"my phone is a piece of shit!"
>me: "What's wrong with it?"
>"It's a piece of shit!"
>me: "you'll have to be more specific"
>"It's slow and it's freezing up!"

>look at phone
>30+ apps open at the same time
>that bible app that always causes problems
>30 web browser apps open
>hasn't been updated since the phone was bought

This is why people always flock to the phone that claims to be faster, but they don't realize that half the time their own stupidity is what's causing the slowdown

Unlimited data + doesn't tie up my home's wifi

Also what's it to you, asshole?

I want to have the ability to do it, not have someone else decide that it's not a feature I need

The same people who use public trackers, swear by YIFY, and never seed

also probably the same crowd who legitimately thinks of a $350 walmart laptop as a good deal

Shit code, shit optimization, so let's bump the hardware to get better than a PC... /s

Calm down Charlie brown. I'm just correcting you.

Not our fault you have shitty vision. I could easily tell there was a difference when I upgraded from a Note 3 to a Note 4.

My phone recently surpassed my PC, fuck it all im getting a USB c keyboard for it

The numbers are higher, that doesn't make them better.