My mom just confronted me about why I don't take my phone with me places. In the past I've told her it's just a privacy concern. Now for some reason she has the idea that I believe the FBI is tracking me. I tried to explain that I just don't want my data being stored and sold but I guess I didn't articulate it well. She just responded "Now I see why you're voting for Trump." What the hell mom that was not cool.
Have you guys ever been confronted about things like this in the past. Like little security/privacy measures you do that the average person doesn't do? This is the first time it's happened to me before. I guess my family believes the expression "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about".
Jason Perry
How old are you, OP?
Matthew Lee
20
Adrian Cruz
I installed Gentoo and when my family found out they cut contact with me. 10/10 would install again.
Kevin Evans
>My mom just confronted me about why I don't take my phone with me places. ahahahahahahaha
Nathan Smith
Honestly the whole point of having a mobile phone is that you can bring it with you everywhere you go. If don't bring your phone with you when you go outside, why do you even own one?
Liam Gonzalez
Why the fuck do you even own a smartphone if you are going to be a tinfoil retard?
Just get an old flipphone instead of being a smug attention whore.
Isaiah Jenkins
If I'm going out for something major like a vacation I bring it but I have it turned off most of the time. But if it's just for a walk to the corner market I don't take it with me. My mom brought this up after I didn't bring my phone to the market.
Easton Walker
So not taking your phone to the market prevents your data from being sold?
You're not even taking proper measures. Go without a smartphone if you're going to be paranoid about your information.
Don't half-ass it.
Otherwise it makes no difference.
Isaiah Long
I don't want to explain everything to you guys I just wanted to hear stories from you. Of course going to the market isn't my biggest concern and I never claimed it was. Just ease off me you're not my mother.
Dominic Scott
I get the same comments from everyone I know. My smartphone is used simply to reference shit on the internet. I've gone full tinfoil with security and refuse to give in and sacrifice my privacy for the usage of some stupid app or service.
Angel Ortiz
Not OP, but recently this year some relatives started to make me more paranoid about this situation.
>they knew what towns I ride by bike through >the stuff I buy and eat alone >more strange the photos on my phone which I never shared
Had to have a talk with my service provider and says it is not common, don't worry ect, but still paranoid.
Grayson Roberts
What do you mean explain everything to us? We understand the privacy concerns, what we're saying is that you aren't even being concerned with your privacy correctly. I'm paranoid, but I still carry my smartphone. I keep GPS and the like turned off
Caleb Morgan
I'm not going to responding to you anymore >more strange the photos on my phone which I never shared wait, every photo you take is saved by others? Is that the norm, I never heard of that before
Owen Nguyen
I never got confronted like that (they only ask questions out of curiosity) since I'm not a moron and every one who knows me just assumes I have a valid reason for the things I do.
If you're being treated like an idiot, you're likely carrying yourself like one.
Luke Johnson
>all this victim shaming baka
Charles Ramirez
>start growing beard (for lazyness) >they see me on linux (for uni project) >almost stop going out of house (uni project deadline) >veracrypt drive (concerned about getting caught torrenting after recent kat news) >switch back to old flip phone ("new" phone broken - a bit - ) >a-user is there any problem? I think you should seek help, maybe from a doctor.
Jason Stewart
>Now I see why you're voting for Trump Bwahaha, a right wing conspiracy theorist nutjob? Man, you're Sup Forums in a nutshell. Do you complain about SJW and niggers too?
Elijah Richardson
why don't you just buy an old nokia dumbphone from a bootsale and top it up by buying vouchers with cash?
Thomas White
Hello sir, I've read your story, and I feel the same, but I need to ask you, are you involved in any illegal activity when you go outside ? Is that the reason you don't carry you mobile phone with you ? If that's the case I encourage you to always take you phone and disregard all the negative thoughts. Its not like someone is tracking you now, no need to be paranoid ;)
Kayden Sanders
I'm not shaming him. Just gave him some advice for a problem that I myself used to have when I was younger, and that I've now solved.
Christopher Nelson
Only 3g, 4g, and lte is avilable and 3g is pretty crappy compared to 4g and lte. Sorry man, but flip phones from 1995/1999/2002 won't work anymore.
Isaiah Rodriguez
>libtard
>logic
Pick one
Kevin Williams
How does Trump even play a factor when he's the ones who cares not about privacy. Your mom is a dumb cunt.
Leo Morgan
3g works fucking fine if you just use it for calling
Sebastian Williams
I have the feeling that she meant something like I'm worrying about things that aren't actually that bad. I know a lot of people think that Trump is just drumming up fear about stuff so maybe she thinks I'm the kind of person who'd fall for that.
Ayden Sullivan
Remote something they're doing.
>iPhone by the way.
Easton Davis
OP, you have autism. Sorry.
Isaac Roberts
Service is third world tier at best.
Eli Rogers
I do the same, either i dont bring my phone or i shut it off. I use Wifi to send messages and only turn on the cellular network if i urgently have to send a message and there is no wifi nearby. Feels good to not having the government constantly know where you are at.
Robert Powell
Slightly unrelated, what would you recommend for hard drive or usb encryption
Dominic Murphy
luks
Liam Smith
y'all a bunch a fucking weirdos (assuming your not trolling)
Samuel Ortiz
Why not just use airplane mode?
Kayden Collins
I do but that doesn't cover everything
Michael Thompson
What exactly are your concerns? You haven't articulated them very well in the thread.
Joseph Brooks
>get a mobile phone >a device which is pointless unless you carry it around with you because the entire point is that you can be reached/reach out for help in an emergency >proceed to refuse to carry it around or even leave it powered on because "B-but muh data." >meanwhile you're paying monthly fees for phone service that you aren't using while the distinct possibility of remote activation of microphone and/or cameras unless the device has all sources of power including battery removed
Your mother thinks you're a dumbass.
Jeremiah Parker
your mom's right, you got BTFO son
Zachary Gomez
>friend tries fucking with my phone but can't get in >lol did you change your password user? why would you do that? >
Jonathan Anderson
I don't bring my phone to the grocer. And I *gasp* write my list on paper. It adds no convenience to have a smartphone when going to a place like the market. Nor having a camera in my fridge streaming it's contents to the world.
Do one so need snaps of a club scene, empty drinks on a bar, your friend's cat's or kids in your pocket all the time?
Tyler Ramirez
A thread died for this shit.
Camden Russell
>She just responded "Now I see why you're voting for Trump." What? Both Trump and Hillary are pushing to increase government spying to ridiculous extents. Hell, from what I've seen Trump supporters are more okay with that shit.
Ian James
i'd make a 'ha ha only the priest classes should read and write ha ha' joke, but i'm absolutely certain that this is an accepted thing here
Jace Barnes
see
Ryan Mitchell
>mom has this much influence >Not just using a dumb flip phone if youre so concerned >Not having a phone in case you get ravaged by a street nigger >Not having a phone to call the your family to tell them you're alive when the market gets shot up >Having a phone but not using it >Being this paranoid but using a smartphone
Andrew Mitchell
>My mom just confronted me about why I don't take my phone with me places. "It is too heavy, mom" was too difficult?
Jonathan Jackson
>don't have a phone >don't use social media >laptop has full disk encrypted OpenBSD with a firmware password, look like I'm hacking the pentagon when I decrypt and boot >nobody bats an eye I like my friends
Noah Morris
What if an emergency happens during that short period of time? You may never know what life throws at you. That is when a """mobile""" phone can be useful at times.
Michael Bell
Then he'll find out about what happens when he gets home or if it's something that happens to him while out, simply deal with it without a phone. You know, the way man has survived for 99% of our history on the planet.
Daniel Hill
>voting Trump
Well, if this is true you're a fucking idiot.
Leo Roberts
i always thought the tinfoil retards on this board were just memeing
they really do think they're living in a cyberpunk dystopia, holy shit
Elijah Perez
>Implying people don't pull out their phones whenever *anything* happens.
Can't have a seizure in peace anymore.
Carson Reed
It's basically down to Trump and Clinton, and Clinton in office is about the last thing I'd ever want.
Gabriel Martinez
0/10 bait
Aiden Brooks
So you can if you want to
People want something from you? Fuck them, you missed their call and there's nothing they can do about it. Hey user, come into work early? Too bad.
>still not fired
Thomas Carter
Security habits? More like autistic habits.
Justin Baker
>"Hey user I want to send you some pictures! Do you have snapchat? :D" >Me: "No I only use open source software on my phone. But you could just text the photo to me or send it to me on facebook." >No response
This keeps happening to me.
Justin Wright
Instead of going full autismo just ask her to send them to your Facebook
Ryan Wood
One dollar has been deposited into your Clinton Online Image Improvementâ„¢ account.
Elijah Hall
>muh open source
you fags are cancer
Jace Reed
I've done that too, but they honestly think their nudes are safe if snapchat makes them "disappear" after a few seconds, despite all the third party screenshot apps and whatnot.
Jack Hernandez
If you're worried about that yet can't install a custom ROM for whatever reason you should probably just get a dumb phone. In the event that you're worried about the government in addition to Google/Apple/your carrier/advertisers dumb phones also have the advantage of still having removable batteries.
Hudson Torres
I use to care, had very elaborate security that some would call insane, but was designed to be so easy that it wasn't all consuming like people would think when I told them about it. Still the maintenance was time consuming and people just keep bugging me about being paranoid.
So one day I snapped and reset everything. No encryption, key under door mat, Root password as default, bank with one charter pin, no anti-virus software. Nothing, totally not caring at all. And after 4 years of nothing happening I am wondering if I was paranoid all the bad stuff is just things the media hype up for ratings.
Then again it could just be my life sucks so much I think nobody would want to steal it.
Logan Bennett
I know you're joking, but she actually does have paid shills on the Internet.
Don't remember if it's the "correct the record" organization or something else, but it's been proven.
Jason Allen
Or maybe someone does have your data and you're just blissfuly ignorant about it.
Juan Lewis
Well if that is the case, I should thank them. As my credit score has been getting much better the last few months and I haven't really done anything.
I now have a 113, so I can now qualify for a pre-approved loan with some of the easy payday loan places nearby. It use to be they would retroactively deny me, despite saying anyone could get a loan from them.
Luis Evans
Thieves aren't the only people who might be interested in your data.
Jason Edwards
I used to set a PIN for my phone as well as turning it off of course when I'd report to Parole. Can't have a phone while you're meeting your P.O.
Brandon Walker
What do you do when you need to use the phone, user? I'm not even trying to refute your way of thinking or anything along those lines, I'm just genuinely curious.
Let me make up an example scenario; please bear with me.
Let's say that you forgot you: Forgot you needed to pick up a relative from the airport. You've just remembered you were supposed to pick them up in ten minutes or so, but this theoretical airport is sixty or so minutes away if traffic is kind. Let's also say that you're already out of the house. Perhaps you're shopping, on the road home from work/ college/ univesity, or maybe you're out getting a bite to eat.
What do you do in this scenario? Your phone would be at home, right? Do you run home and get it so you can call them and give them warning about how late you're going to be in picking them up? Do you skip it like an inconsiderate jerk? Payphones are all but non-existant now, so do you go into some random store and ask to borrow the phone? Do you ask to borrow the cell of some stranger on the street? Again, I'm genuinely curious. Not having a cell phone on you in a world with no payphones seems like it would be a pretty big hassle.
Ethan Perez
>Payphones are all but non-existant now not where I live. there's a payphone right across the street from me as a matter of fact. I'm in Los Angeles btw. If I really needed to warm them I'd use a payphone but I don't think a warning is really necessary. If they trusted me enough to pick them up I'm sure they'd wait for me and wait for an explanation until I got there.
Ryan Roberts
This.
Jason Jenkins
Would never happen since I haven't spoken to anyone in my family for years
Jaxson Young
>Just get an old flipphone instead of being a smug attention whore. ...
...
You get tracked by the cellular base stations you're connected to, not by the type of phone you have.
A Greens politician from Berlin did a FoI request for those logs several years ago, and put up online a reconstruction of six months of his movements. Look it up.
Noah Lopez
pic is op
Lincoln Evans
>You get tracked by the cellular base stations you're connected to, not by the type of phone you have. Dumb phones still generally have removable batteries though.
Caleb Miller
As does my smartphone. Even if you don't have a removable battery, if you're that concerned you're free to make or buy a faraday pouch
Nathaniel Wilson
>privacy concerns >voting Trump mom & son confirmed retards
Wyatt Cook
>implying Clinton is a better choice Trump is the lesser of two evils.
Camden Gomez
>implying there are only two candidates in the race for president like I said, confirmed retards.
Leo Harris
>implying you're not throwing away your vote if you don't vote Trump or Clinton I'd love to vote for McAfee or Sanders, but we both know it's either Trump or Clinton.
Ayden Davis
with that attitude, sure. no wonder nothing ever changes in the us
Dylan Howard
>he thinks voting for the candidate you want is 'throwing away your vote' >millions of other americans think the same, because they only listen to the biggest campaigns too bad americans are literally retarded
Sebastian Cook
Exactly my point. Practically everyone thinks this way so practically everyone's going to vote for Trump or Clinton. I want Clinton to win the least, so I'll be voting for the one most likely to beat her, which would be Trump.
Jayden Torres
that's dumb as fuck m8
Nicholas Wright
Since this is a tinfoil thread
How common are these car designs? With the whole round circular lens and "classic" look?
Because every single time I head out onto the highway there's one of these following me. I'm no schizo and sometimes they pass me but I've seen way too many that it makes the internal tinfoil tingle.
Anthony Harris
>Feds want to track down op >phone is in his place of residence >they just to go to his house and ask his mom where he is >go and lift him for nondescript rights violations
Good job dumbass
Camden Brooks
Not as dumb as Hillary being the president.
Ayden Perry
Just use it you cuck
Robert Carter
>implying you even cared about privacy in the first place
Nathaniel Parker
>implying I don't
Alexander Bailey
Just leave your smartphone at home when you hit the highway next time. You'll be alright.
Colton Wilson
Wait, there are seriously people on Sup Forums who plan on voting for that horrible man?
Aaron Rivera
Trump shillin/g/ hitting levels unforeseen before
Jack Green
Never seen one, you're definitely being tailed.
Jacob Allen
>paranoid about surveillance >votes for Trump You are a special kind of retard.
Adam Adams
no, Sup Forums is satire.
Blake Lewis
but user, OP is voting Trump because he doesn't want to throw away his vote
Jason Rodriguez
I'm not OP tho
Levi Jones
Why don't you just keep it turned off or take the battery out?