Apple doesnt give away information about a terrorist

>apple doesnt give away information about a terrorist
>apple gives out information on a torrent site owner

macrumors.com/2016/07/21/apple-helped-identify-kickasstorrents-owner/

APPLE FAGS WILL DEFEND THIS!

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So... can we safely say that Apple endorses terrorism now?

oy vey goyim.
money is more important.

>APPLE FAGS WILL DEFEND THIS!

Taken out of context much?

In order to give out information about the terrorist, they'd have to break their own encryption algorithm and expose how to break the algorithm to the public (incl. hackers) in the courts in order to be able to use the decrypted information. This would put innocent people that have an iPhone with their personal data in it at risk.

The owner of KAT was found out by making a purchase on an iTunes account(which had minimal unencrypted information about who he was) with the same IP that was logged into the KAT Facebook page that day. (This is according to the article you posted BTW)

Tracking an IP is much easier than exposing how to crack an entire encryption algorithm to the public (The method of decrypting needs to be proven in order for the decrypted information to be used in the courts).

I despise Apple, but they didn't do anything wrong in this case, and you compared apples to fuckin coconuts friendo.

What do you expect from Alabama born and self hating Tim Cuck. He hates his heritage and roots so much he actively tries to destroy the Unites States and freedoms. Not to mention the Jew's.

Clinically retarded or merely paid to shill? You decide!

This is nothing new.

>implying apple didn't sell their backdoor to that israeli firm that "cracked" the encryption anyway

Apple gave out their data (server logs, IPs). They gave no personal data from the KAT owner.

Apple's logs are Apple's data, not anyone else's.

>I don't know anything the post
They were asked to stop the phone from wiping itself after x attempts. Not some super powerful all-in-on phone unlocker.
See:

Or they could simply provide the fbi with a copy of the data on the iPhone.
It's that simple

That's the same as an all in one unlocker.

What's fishy though is the torrent site owner actually buying stuff on iTunes

If breaking encryption is that simple, why haven't you wrote the most important paper of the century yet?

>Taken out of context much?

This kind of argument is ALWAYS taken out of context

They can't even get the data from the phone, even though they created it?

No, they just don't want to help.

It's apples encryption, are you implying they can't access their own devices?

>autism
You have it

Yes, that's literally how it works. Why are you here if you have no interest in technology?

Provide a real argument or fuck off

They still need to explain how they decrypted the data in court to use it

>we have made a self destruction machine XD
>we can't defuse it XD

you think those jews that used apple's backdoor are going to have to prove anything?

First of all, it's not Apple's encryption. I dunno if this applies to the phone in the terrorist case, but Apple don't even know the keys for phones they make now.

If the FBI would have been gifted the ram disk for the unlock, they could've hypothetically used it for the same model and operating system. But they weren't so we'd never know. What we do know is Apple can deny terrorist related court orders.

>They still need to explain how they decrypted the data in court to use it

First time I see this mentioned.
Do they really need to get into detail though, couldn't they say they circumvented the deletion routine or something like that?

What we do know is that Apple wasn't willing to risk the privacy of millions of innocent civilians because of a terrorist.

Thank you, Apple.

Misquote

But it was willing to risk the privacy of billions of innocent people from all around the world (not even just the US) because of a sitemaster.

Thank you, Apfail.

It was a while ago so I'm a little rusty, but IIRC any technology used in court needs to be thoroughly explained in order to be valid evidence. You can't just say "We reverse Engineered it", you can still just pull data from the ether and pretend it came from said extremely vague RE.

How does cracking a terrorists phone risk the privacy of anyone else?

Not seeing the connection.

because it means you have the ability to crack any encryption using the same implementation.

What makes you say that? They matched an IP of ONE PERSON, not exposed how to crack an encryption algorithm protecting millions of people.

Because it provides precedence that the FBI (and eventually small law enforcement) can request any phone to be broken into when they want. Before you start with the "this time only" nonsense, remember that we are talking about the American government here and remember that they will do anything to have more power over people.

Nice strawman.

any technology used in court needs to be thoroughly explained in order to be valid evidence

so the solution to police abuse, is to disobey their orders altogether?
Great thinking, Anarchist

As opposed to being allowed to request any account be broken into even out of America, even when the target is not a terrorist?

Why is it a strawman, it has everything to do with the topic at hand.

The technology was not going to be used in court, inbred. At least inform yourself before spouting this kind of nonsense. It's like you really do have an IQ in the single-digits.

It's a really interesting case for sure. I think Apple didn't the right thing, but for the wrong reasons.

We already know Apple has access to any information on iPhones and you're retarded to think otherwise. And the FBI ended up accessing the encrypted information anyway, so Apple looks doubly fucking stupid.

Apple is doing a fundraiser for Shillary so I'll never buy apple products again.

I was considering buying a new Macbook pro when they came out but now I'm going to go with a different company.

In order to use the decrypted data in the courts, they have to prove, fully, how to decrypt it.

Also nice ad-homenims, why don't you use a real argument instead?

Popular theory is that Apple had a connection to the terrorists. They've unlocked phones before in a similar fashion for governments.

>ablabloobloo bleblabla aguugugugugu
I don't think you should be on the internet yet timmy.

for the third time, it's because the FBI went to Israelis who either stole the backdoor from Apple, were given the backdoor by the NSA, or bought the backdoor from Apple/NSA.

Apple doesn't look stupid; the FBI has proven that they will use the NSA to get what they want if they can't get it otherwise.

The solution definitely isn't to hand them more power over innocents on a silver platter. You fucking alt righters really are the dumbest Internet phase.

What's this in relation to?

Provide an actual argument or fuck off.

>more power
there's no more power here, intelligence was always allowed to retrieve information of high interest suspects as it was with telephone, mail or even observation.

Question: What is the most republican computer company?

HP?

AMD

politico.com/story/2016/06/tim-cook-apple-paul-ryan-fundraiser-224554

Which is exactly why the guy i replied to is completely retarded to imply breaking into an iPhone is a task that no one believes to be possible.

They do look stupid for taking the holier-than-thou all for the user's privacy bullshit route instead of just cooperating only for the FBI to prove how easy it really is to break into the allegedly unhackable iPhone

>Helps terrorists
>Promotes hilary
>Hates freedom of data
>Wants to control the distribution of music

Buying used.

>Apple don't even know the keys for phones they make now.

Why is Apple so two faced? Donating to Obama but also to top republicans is just weird. It seems like they want to have powerful friends everywhere without really taking sides.

It's as if businesses just act in the interest of profit.

I can definitely understand why a business would do that it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I guess is right. Just buying used guarantees zero profit for any company.

>Paul Ryan
>"""conservative"""

>"protecting your border is racist"
>"banning muslims who want to rape our women and kill gays is racist"

The Koch Brothers, who donate heavily to neo-cons like George W Bush, McCain and Romney, refuse to back Trump. If that alone isn't enough evidence for you to support Trump, then you need to fuck off out of America before I find your traitorous ass.

What tech company supports Trump openly? I would love to know because I would gladly support them.

>case 1, not legally obligated
>case 2, legally obligated

ANTI-APPLE RETARDS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

>vitas
has my nigga become a meme yet

>i want to support a tech company that supports someone who advocates for the mandatory backdooring of all encryption and would likely push for key handover laws a la the UK if he can't get that
no tech company supports him because surprisingly people who own tech companies aren't fucking idiots.

there's an open letter AGAINST him and clinton because they don't understand the internet or encryption.

Tech companies like Google, Microsoft and Apple are not your friends. They are, and will continue to, gladly fucking you in the ass with ever increasing backdoor surveillance, mass data mining and "piracy" crackdown, while """claiming""" they are fighting against said actions. Why else is the NSA/FBI so prominent now? If these companies really were helping us, they would have told the NSA/FBI to fuck off 10 years ago.

Yes, they aren't idiots, which is why I distrust them even more. They know what they are doing. They are subduing the general populace with entertainment and social network conditioning to suppress any dissent against beginning of the Brave New World.

If you think this is all just some tinfoil hat shit, go read the recent DNC leaks. It blatantly shows how the Democrats (and most American politicians in general) are using the media and tech companies to shape a false narrative and push their agenda against the sovereignty of America and its people. Stop sucking Silicon Valley's dick like the faggot you are.

Is Trump the guy to fix this system? Probably not, but he's definitely a lot closer than the cunt Hillary.

>I can't decide between two billionaires that conquered their parties through force

What are you buying instead? I don't want to support apple or Google either.

>Is Trump the guy to fix this system? Probably not, but he's definitely a lot closer than the cunt Hillary.
Trump has said multiple times that he wants to break encryption "for terrorists" and "shut down the parts of the internet terrorists are using." He is no different than Hillary when it comes to the internet; both are completely illiterate and anyone on this board should know this already.

Tech companies feeding data to the NSA and legally backdooring encryption methods or implementing key handover laws with lengthy prison sentences are two entirely different things. I can't do anything about the former, but I sure as hell can do everything in my power to stop the latter from happening.

Honestly I think people who support Trump should just be banned from the internet if they don't care if it's destroyed like it would be under him.

Like porn? Degenerate. Website "shut down."
Like Sup Forums? Degenerate. Website "shut down."
Like privacy? Terrorist. Incarcerated.

Gee, with that attitude they'll be legally obligated to stab you in the back in -both- cases.

Vote for a third party then. A trump monarchy wouldn't be as bad as a Hillary socialist Reich

>A trump monarchy wouldn't be as bad as a Hillary socialist Reich
Why do you keep saying this? I literally just explained that in regards to the internet they are the fucking same.

Honestly I think people who support Hillary should be deported to make room for more refugees and immigrants.

I forgot to include Hillary when I said that banned from the internet statement.

trump is shit
hillary is shit
cuck cuck cuck
waah waah waah

>Sup Forums - technology

It's either Trump or Hillary. You have no other choice. A 3rd party would never rise to party with the current political system, because it was designed purposefully like that.

If these are the choices given to me, at least I'm going to go with the one that's not going to turn my country into another blown-up European socialist-experiment muslim-infested shithole because of "systematic historical racism". Once the country's borders and economy is firmly under control again by national interests, and not global interests, then encryption and privacy rights can be fought for next. None of which will be possible if the country is flooded with 3rd world immigrants within the next 10 years or so, who will always, ALWAYS vote Democrat (who are basically neo-cons at this point).

>terrorist wasn't killing apple executives
>torrent site was providing links to cracked apple software

Anyone who deludes themselves into thinking corporations have ethics are idiots. Apple was only fighting the decryption shit because they don't want to be legally obligated to provide free labor to the US government for the rest of their existence.

>then encryption and privacy rights can be fought for next.
>fought for next
Will never happen if it ends up being taken away. Do you think the uneducated masses are going say anything when the funny man on TV is telling you that criminals and terrorists are plotting your death RIGHT! NOW! and the police can't read their messages because encryption. Remove Encryption today and save your children from the Muslim terrorists.

Trump is actually quite liberal socially, and he has a point when he says Silicon Valley creates technology that makes it easy for terrorists to organize and recruit, and that it's ironic that our inventions are used against us. The biggest problem is probably the illiteracy.

Honestly don't know if anyone can match his vocals. Opera 2 was incredible

if they gave the data to the fbi they'd have to assume that none of it is altered or left out. then the fbi would ask for the actual device and how to crack it.

they're not going to just give them that. it's not worth the risk.

on the other hand, giving someone's ip is no problem.

fuck off drumpf Sup Forums faggot
#ImWithHer #BlackLivesMatter

>we made a piece of software that encrypts users' data for their privacy
>but we've reserved the power to decrypt it magically

And Democrats use the excuse that "right-wing extremists" are the reason to remove encryption.

>Remove encryption today to save your children from the racist bigoted white males who are going to shoot up your school and hospital because of racism!!!

As ridiculous as that sounds, that's exactly the shit they say whenever some argument about muslims vs. white male serial killers comes up.

So until you provide me an alternative solution to Trump vs. Hillary, I'm going with the one that gives me a better chance for me and my country.

>So until you provide me an alternative solution to Trump vs. Hillary, I'm going with the one that gives me a better chance for me and my country.
There isn't really a better solution, but internet and privacy rights are the most important to me. I'd imagine they'd rank pretty highly for most people browsing this board, but if Muslims immigrating to a nation historically hostile to Muslims and the economy are more important to you, then by all means vote Trump.

I won't vote for someone who wants to take away my right to encrypt my data.

after 10 failed password attempts the encrypted data is destroyed

Think pad w/ GNU

>There isn't really a better solution, but internet and privacy rights are the most important to me. I'd imagine they'd rank pretty highly for most people browsing this board, but if Muslims immigrating to a nation historically hostile to Muslims and the economy are more important to you, then by all means vote Trump.

Internet and privacy rights are also very high on my list, and I commend you for that. But unlike you, I am being realistic about the situation at hand right now. The economy is basically what allows us to even have these kind of arguments about these topics. Without a functional economy and immigration policy, you can kiss goodbye to privacy rights, climate change, education reform, healthcare reform, and all those other good amenities.

Do you think Venezuelans and Kenyans care about "privacy rights"? No, they care about their stomach hurting from lack of food, and the guy down the street that's ready to shank his ass because he's also hungry.

I left a 3rd world shithole to come to America, and now they want to bring that shithole back to me. I will not let my new country turn into another cesspit, which requires electing a leader willing to stand up to globalist trade and open border policies.

Or they could unlock the device and give it to the fbi.

It was a publicity stunt, only a shill would pretend otherwise.