New Camera Help

Ok Sup Forums, i'm going to buy my first camera
i'm a poorfag, and I can't decide between the Nikon D3300 and the Canon T6
these are the only two available at the price point. amazon is a no-go (only brick and mortar for me)
Which one should I get?
like I stated before, i'm poor and i can't really bother with buying ridiculous lenses to make
up for the camera's shortcomings.
also, recommend some cheap lenses pls.

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Canon has easy menu and a lot of lens and things to choose. Nikon has better chips and new technologies. I have a Canon 1100D but I'd prefer a Nikon now.

the nikon d3300 is the best entry level cam. go on the photo board

^This guy

I love my cousins Canon because of the menu and how every thing is displayed. How ever I opted to but a Nikon because of better low light image quality.

Damn. I'm the one you quoted. I wish I bought a Nikon. I'm an amateur astronomer and like to take photos of the sky too.

Hey fellow astronomer.

Some awesome tips for you. I just started this year. Don't let the Canon Nikon thing stop you. You can accomplish amazing photos with the Canon also. I will tell you right now tho. It's very frustrating and it will take you a few months to get every thing right. Even with my Nikon I'm having a hard time. Star field photography is difficult.

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neither, you don't want a fool frame camera.

Get an nice m4/3s Fuji Xt-1 or xt-1 infrared

Neither of those are full frame cameras.

Wow thanks!

For taking pictures Nikon, for primarily video use Canon.

not anymore lol, that's the ole days with 5d2 and kwanon rwabalt2i. just pick used camera op like 5d2/60d/nikon d*/nikon7xxx.

photofag here. Been using Nikon since I started shooting in 2007.

What are you primarily going to be shooting when you get your camera? General candid photos? Portraits? Any type of night time photography?

Lenses won't make up for a camera's shortcomings. If a camera is lacking in a certain aspect, even a $10,000 won't make up for it, and that will show in your photos.

From what I'm seeing, the D3300 seems better in a few aspects.

-Battery life is good for 700 shots, T6 goes for 500 shots

-ISO on the D3300 is expandable up to 25,600 (Whereas the T6 can only expand up to 12,800). 12,800 ISO is the max on the D3300 without expanding. So the D3300 would suit you better for any low light/night time photography.

-Continues shooting on the D3300 is 5 FPS, the T6 maxes out at 3 FPS

Just a few points to consider. Without knowing exactly what you want to use it for, it's hard to determine what would suit you better.

even a $10,000 lens won't make up for it*

>APS-C
>full frame
hello retard

I got an amazing deal on a Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens. It was a present to my sister and brother in law when they had their first child . They bought a new dslr to take photos of their baby with.

4 years later it's still in the box and they have never used it. They just use the lens that came with the camera. I took one photo of their child with it and showed them the dial to drop the fstop. They were amazed how the photo looked like a portrait studio took it.

Every Christmas my eye twitches as they get their camera with the 18-55mm lens on it and jam it in their child's face as they open presents.
>I think one of these might be good.
Yeah, I hope so...I hope so.

I can't even fucking steal it back because I shoot Nikon.

Normies fucking love zoom lenses, there's nothing you can do about it.

They were so excited about their dslr and wanted to learn about the things it could do. They wanted, "to take the best pictures we can of our child".

Well, I was able to score a nib 50/1.2 for $900 and thought it the perfect lens for people wanting to take pictures of a baby. Hell it's a perfect lens for basically anything you take a picture of within 15 yards.

Anyways. It's just sitting under their TV in a cabinet and when I visit I swear when I walk by the cabinet the unused lens siphons a small piece of my soul or sanity away.

that's being mild about it actually

they care about zoom range and pretty much nothing else. actually they only care about the telephoto end of the zoom range, hence why almost all superzooms start at 18mm. You could give them a beautiful 24-70/2.8 and they'd say "wtf, this barely zooms at all, and whys it so big" They'll actively fight to avoid learning anything about aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity, dynamic range, post-processing, or pretty much anything else.

It also kills me when they try to take pictures out on the deck at like 6pm or so at family get togethers and are like, "oh it's too dark lemme use the flash".

So everyone is washed out and looks like shit when they have a lens that could make 7pm look like noon.

Anyways I think I'll prob just steal it from them this Christmas and sell it. If they ask I'll just let them know what it cost and that it was wasted on them. I could prob slip a 50mm 1.8 in it's place and they wouldn't know the fucking difference.

>Retards can buy expensive DSLRs and they just use with a crappy zoom lens
>Meanwhile I'm poor as fuck and I have to live with my old Konica FS-1 and fucking ColorPlus 200 film
A-at least the glass is good.

fun trick: take pictures at high noon and use fill flash. They'll have no idea what you're doing, or why the resulting pictures look good.

lmao yeah. If I bought them a Speedlite they'd prob complain that it blocked their view over the camera. My sister holds the camera out in front of her and uses the live view to take pictures.

>tfw Nikon F2AS and 24mm 3.5
>tfw no money to buy film
>tfw no money to buy a DSLR to shoot videos
life sucks

>I was able to score a nib 50/1.2 for $900 and thought it the perfect lens for people wanting to take pictures of a baby. Hell it's a perfect lens for basically anything you take a picture of within 15 yards.

Canon 50 f/1.2 is overrated: meh image quality and only T1.5
Bokeh whoring is also overrated.

Both are fine, TBQH

Thank you for sharing your sour grapes.

>Canon
better at low end and a larger ecosystem of lenses
>Nikon
Better for high-end specialist photography

>Canon
99% same as Nikon.
>Nikon
99% same as Canon.
>Pentax
lol Pentax.

>So everyone is washed out and looks like shit when they have a lens that could make 7pm look like noon.

Yeah but if you use a lens like that won't it reduce the field of view? I fucking hate it when people think that a photo looks great and studio like when all it has is everything out of fucking focus except the middle. I'd rather have a gigantic field of view where everything is sharp.

Can't argue against being able to do better photos at night, though.

A full frame 50mm is completely fine to take pics of people standing on a deck. And the background isn't out of focus unless you set the picture up to be that way. You've got to stop it down a lot to narrow the depth of field.

you're talking about depth of field, not field of view.

anyway the fastest way to impress normies is to bokeh-whore, because their cameraphones and point-n-shoots can't. Same with HDR, they'll eat that shit up even if it's garishly overdone.