Have we lost millennials to The Botnet for good?

Every single one that I know, or happen to talk with, is 100% OK with Facebook and Google data-mining their entire lives. They don't even pause for half a second to think about it.

Will they ever wake up from this wonderful dream, or was being born into The Botnet hooked them in forever?

>inb4 lel i dun't care
>inb4 u pedo, bro?
>inb4 nuttin 2 hyde

Those are just weak non-excuses. Try harder, sonny.

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23949848
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Yeah they really don't see it as a problem. I don't know what to say to them.

If you try to explain why data mining is a bad thing, you'll see that your arguments are equally retarded.

>the govmint will read my mind
>everyone will know when I masturbate
>if they want my info then it must be valuable and therefore if they get it they're stealing from me

That's because they have been cucked by cultural Marxism force-fed since kindergarten.

Is '91 being millennial? Hard to tell since I'm not from West but at least me and my brother still aren't cucked but it gets harder anons, there is some thinly veiled line between protecting my privacy and just making my life a nightmare by avoiding everything related to google etc, I'm sure google still finds a way to know everything about me via my android phone.

I can almost guarantee you're a millenial.

"millennials" are generally considered to be people born between like 1980 - 2000

Which is exactly why I said I can almost guarantee OP is one.

You could wrong man since OP is probably 13

I don't care, I have nothing to hide.

Are you a pedo? Literally nobody but criminals have anything to hide.

Which is why "almost" is in there. You should try learning to read sometime.

You're exactly what's wrong with the fucking world

:^)

No amount of sinister facts will convince them otherwise. People want to be connected and share the good parts of their lives. They want to feel like they matter and their opinions have meaning. This interconnectivity is just a natural stage for us to explore. I don't blame them and if I was in the position, I'd take advantage of their content too.

No man you can't act like this on an anonymous message board it's weak character

Nah, I think you pedophiles are.

All I know is by the time the few of them realize their mistake it'll be too late.

>tfw you will never experience the ignorant bliss of being a normie

>he hasn't lost every shred of hope he had for humanity by now
you're a better user than I

So you're all mad that real people (meaning not you nerds/virgins/NEETS/assorted human trash) don't care which means no "revolution" will happen which means Google will never stop knowing you wank to cartoons and have no friends/life?

>he needs "social" media to have friends

This board is 18+ kid.

How would you know what is or is not needed to have friends?

Most of the world is short-sighted and can't appreciate problems if they don't feel they'll be affected by them directly. People won't care until some rogue Google employee starts leaking Internet history with real names.

You're just fearmongering because you like kiddie porn.

Say nothing. It's not like you can convince someone that giving a global advertising giant full access to your personal info is never a good idea.

Just don't do it yourself.

>>>inb4 lel i dun't care
>>inb4 u pedo, bro?
>>inb4 nuttin 2 hyde

all perfectly valid points, kid fiddler

I was born in 1993, and my generation seems to be the one that was on the brink of when people and culture began to rapidly change on this matter. Most have accepted it, some haven't, the whole has a more realistic sense of awareness.

It's all about contrast. The new generation has no primary means to delineate their everyday context to the old world, and worse, they've been engineered such that they don't give a damn.

Scientism won. It's all about faith now, and delusions of pseudo-collectivism and false progress. I also wouldn't be surprised if chronic exposure to microwave band radiation altered their intellectual development. Still, it's too early to tell what the next generation will become. Who knows. Mine was a net failure that helped build this mess, maybe the next one will have greater foresight.

I'm a millennial and I don't have facebook, instagram, twitter or any of that bs. People think it's weird but fuck them, I don't see any reason why I need to put my private life on the web for all to see.

They'll snap out of it, when things go south.

Our society has been lulled into a false sense of security. Nothing can possibly ever go wrong here. You only need to look at the anti-gun movement to see that. "Why do you care if we take your guns, its not like the government will ever turn tyrannical."

When shit hits the fan and the downside of the botnet is revealed, they'll realize how wrong they were.

But what about pussy? Don't you want any?

>Being such a beta that you need to give up your principles for a girl
If she won't switch to Signal or IRC for you, then she's not worth it

>I also wouldn't be surprised if chronic exposure to microwave band radiation altered their intellectual development.


Most retarded thing I've read on Sup Forums today. Good job. Microwave radiation is non-ionizing low energy radiation and is incapable of causing cellular damage moron.

Never had a problem with that. I just meet girls the old fashioned way, by talking to them. I have a puppy which is an awesome conversation starter when out on walks.

>cellular damage moron

Where is the comma, genius?

I have facebook and instagram, still don't get any pussy.

Why do people not questioning their lack of digital freedom cause you distress and anger you?

It's really getting harder to unsubscribe even if you try.

Still in school so i see all that you're talking about. Most just don't care.

Millenial is a worthless term that should be abolished.

If you say Gen Y and Gen Z, people know exactly whom you're talking about.

You have yourself, so you have pussy already.

Nobody is actually out to grab anyone's guns. Nobody is suggesting bans on all firearms and even the more limited gun control measures that periodically gets put up for legislation never gets passed because too many corrupt politicians are knee deep in the NRA's pockets.

If the massacre of 26 kids wasn't able to bring about increased gun control nothing will. This country has already made it clear we don't want it. There will be no gun grabbing and anyone who says there will be is just fear-mongering.

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Because these guys like kiddie porn or other pathetic shit that is frowned upon by humans and think that they will be outed if real people don't "come to their aid and fight the big bad anti-freedumbs"

>Have we lost millennials to The Botnet for good?
Yes

Ionization (and thermals / SAR) is irrelevant and not the only mechanism for spurring change in a system. The function of ion channels is influenced by magnetic fields, both static and fluctuating. In this case most notably voltage dependent calcium channels, which regulate everything from neurotransmitter release to gene expression.

There's objective evidence of an elevation in heat shock protein expression (cellular stress pathway), and if this persists chronically, it begins to stop havi9ng repairative effects and becomes damaging. Remember that the window of hormesis is finite.

There's also evidence of increased blood brain barrier permeability, likely because of those same calcium channel mechanics.

You're on mount stupid right now, and suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. You know enough to be dangerous, but have far too little insight, or the means, to realize where you're lacking. That you'd bring up non-ionizing properties is proof of this. Learn more about the machinery of the mind, and universe, before thinking you know much of anything.

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Can you cite this evidence? Not the guy you replied to, I'm interested in learning more about it.

Hey now. People from 2000 aren't millennials. They're like, iGeneration or something. It's a cringe name, but atleast they're not millennials.

It's just normalshits having access to previously guarded technology. They eat what they're fed and never investigate or question. TV existed to exploit them, and now Facegoogle serves that role.

There was a brief technoutopian delusion that technology would reform the sheeple, and maybe it has a little, but "hacker culture" was a tiny island getting repeatedly pounded by tsunamis of mouthbreathers.

There's only a small percent of the population who will ever give a fuck, and they're still there, but just obscured and obfuscated because they don't have exclusive access to transformative technology.

Most fedora tier post I've read all day.

Even if all these ion calcium channels are affected by magnetic fields the output power of a phone or laptop is tiny. The Earth's magnetic field, cell towers, high voltage wires, etc. all probably have a much greater effect on you than a phone would.

Exactly. That user is basically saying talking on a cell phone causes cancer

Listen, I'm a Data Scientist at a company that holds exabyte scale data on people's usage patterns. I concentrate on just a few petabytes of that data, but I hear about what my colleagues are doing across the company and in industry.

Seriously, no one is out to get you. Honestly, no one gives a shit about you. We're too obsessed with increasing our top line and make our product more excellent.

Do you not want Netflix knowing what movies you watch? How about YouTube on videos you liked. Amazon has very helpful shopping recommendations and tailors search well. I've trained Google to give me wonderfully targeted search results for developer queries.

The web before recommendation and search was a shit place. If the botnet was gone tomorrow, I guarantee many of your websites favorite features would be gone and be much lower quality.

Breaches of this trust like Facebook recommending biased articles are startling. I would like to see more laws passed in privacy to prevent this favoring not based on users preference or ad bid price.

Even the above breach of trust example, they don't give a shit about you. seriously. I sign up to send extra data every chance I get and I don't blink an eye.

Not that user but hey I agree.
Also: should be noted that the FCC has investigated any and all harmful effects, and (despite there being no conclusive evidence of said harmful effects) has placed restrictions and guidelines for all phone manufacturers to abide by in the US. This include chink phones, if they're able to be sold legally to the US.
In short, no, we're not going to have our brains melted by cellphones. There are people who's jobs are making sure this doesn't happen.

[citation needed]

>Listen, I'm a botnet
>It's okay, don't need to worry. Give in to me

>Do you not want Netflix knowing what movies you watch? How about YouTube on videos you liked.

Absolutely not. That's retarded. Do you want your parents know about the shemale porn that you wank off to? No? Well, why let Google know it, but not your own parents?

>I sign up to send extra data every chance I get and I don't blink an eye.
Well that's because you're an idiot.

I can, but it'll just be a cursory skim through pubmed to find papers that look superficially like they communicate what I mean to get across. It'll be a starter, but you'll likely be better off searching further yourself or reading through a textbook (I recommend From Molecules to Networks).

Hold on.

>the output power of a phone or laptop is tiny.
It's not strictly about "power", because it's not about thermals.

>Also: should be noted that the FCC has investigated
The FCC's guidelines are based solely on the SAR at a given distance.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_absorption_rate
Which means thermals. Heat. Not how cellular machinery responds to magnetic fields.

I'm a millennial and I'm with you guys. The town i live is made it illegal to own baby ball pythons even though that's some dumb nigger shit. If the police could see my online history they would know this and take it away or fine me, which isn't fair. I never affected anyone negatively so why should i be punished

I have tails for if i don't want everyone spying on me.
Facebook and whatnot just sell the info to advertisers and whatnot for money. I trust for profit companies to do this.

Why government wants my info is fsr more insidious and they also have jurisdiction past their own products unlike fb or google.

No, but I want the site I'm using to show me the hottest dick girls I'm into. Never been a fan of dick sucking porn, but I love doggy style ass fucking. I want my search engine to tailor these results to me when I search for dick girls. They're making a better quality product for you because it makes them money and gives you good results. Bing being good for porn is no accident. There's porn experimentation going on right now to make the product better.

I want the products I use to be better. that's not dumb. Most of the time, when they take my data, they are.

There's nothing you or anyone can do about it, let us just hope our overlords are kind to us in the future.

why do you think you're important enough to be interesting?

You're either extremely naive or a liar.

If that's the case why do you feel the need to mine data?

If you dont't care, then why do you mine people's data?

I've worked for spam companies, dropping cookies to collect metadata points and buying emails. I've worked for lead bidding platforms where we literally sell people's information to the highest bidder. I now work for clean fortune 50 data collection. Top to bottom, you have nothing to worry about. If anything the biggest danger is malicious data like credit cards and identity theft like that lastpass crack a few years back.

I mine data as a hobby, I enjoy the mathematics being large datasets, very challenging scale problems, very rewarding career path, and not many people can do it well.

>Hold on.
Okay...
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27346366
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26950212

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25749756
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23949848
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22371824

Overview:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage-dependent_calcium_channel

Like I said. I recommend researching ion channels specifically, and physics, if you want to build a framework where these sorts of findings fit in naturally and aren't compartmentalized.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

1995+ is generation z

>If she won't switch to Signal or IRC for you, then she's not worth it
I'll write this down

Reminder that all of you "privacy enthusiasts" who believe that Facebook and Google and Microsoft are "botnets" UNIRONICALLY and LITERALLY own and operate cell phones.

There's 3 forms of business: business to business, business to consumer, consumer to middleman to consumer (uberesque models). Incorporating people's data fits well into all 3 categories in different ways. People in aggregate are very interesting, and spend a lot of money. Sensor data is interesting too, but never worked much with it. Also rewarding career. Lots of math, lots of scale, lots of fun

I don't know about you guys, but I feel a deep sense of security from having the state watching over and protecting us.

If I had a proper H field probe for my oscilloscope I'd hook that shit up and show you why you're wrong.

You sound like a top-tier cuck.

"Let's hope that Big Boy Bubba has an average girth, and is gentle"

Millenial here. I don't use facebook or google.

So what do you recommend to do, to stay safe from the magnetic bullshit without being a hermit or tinfoil hat?

So you make money off of people's data, and the poeple never see a dime? You just gave a valid reason for never giving into the botnet, why would I work for free?

I know I'm unlikely to be of much individual interest to the botnet.

The thing is, even if I trust you (you in the collective sense, meaning everyone tracking everything I do) now, do I trust you for all time? How do I know your company won't get bought out or have it's database sold in bankruptcy? Possibly to someone I don't trust at all? How do I know someone in the future won't use that data to harm me? Even if today's three-letter agencies aren't totalitarian and oppressive, how do I know they won't become so? It's happened before. I don't know, and once that data's out there, I have no way to ever revoke access to it.

hence I think it prudent for nobody to have that data at all. Especially because the only benefit you promise me is advertising. I don't want advertising at all, no matter how relevant you make it.

>cell phones

Swede here. I use Sailfish OS. No Microsoft. No Facebook. No Google.

Checkmate, atheists!

>once that data's out there, I have no way to ever revoke access to it

Teenagers HAVE to understand this. And I mean REALLY understand this. That statement alone is powerful enough.

I know I'm being spied on but I would never be able to talk to half of my clients or random artists I'm a fan of without facebook

Obviously I can communicate them through other means, but I wouldn't have met them without facebook

The search engine should search for what I fucking ask, not for what the botnet thinks I want
If I want to see dick girls doing doggy style ass fucking I'll fucking search for 'dick girl doggy style ass fucking', I don't need the botnet doing it for me
If I happen to not feel like watching doggy style ass fucking today I don't want the botnet getting in my fucking way

You say that like this post isn't indexed by Google.

As far as recommendations I don;t have much to say, I'd just tell you to address your own framework of value, and perform your own risk assessment as you see fit.

However, I can tell you what I do. I don't use any wireless devices, and never have, I don't care for them and the whole cell phone game is an overpriced artificially inflated market to begin with. A complete joke I would never bother investing resources into. But that's mainly because it's not valuable to me. It's not dualistic, there is no payoff. If I did want a cell phone, I'd still avoid it.

In my daily life I just tend to be aware of how things work, and the nature of my environment. I know where I am and what's around. But oh well, I don't go much out of my way to avoid anything. I've even walked up a mountain to the base of a cell tower to see what was there. I rural area so fuck it, society will have to wait to become a nuisance to me. But it will. Eventually. And I'm not fully certain how I'd manage that. There are cheaper materials available to shield magnetic fields and interference, but I've never tested how well they actually work.

I understand the danger of letting strangers know all about your life, and there are measures you can take to prevent that.

Why is it so bad for them to have your info? I'm not defending it, I just want to know what hypothetical event you guys are all talking about that will screw me over enough to say "gee, I wish I didn't put that info on Facebook."

My cellphone is jailbreaked with an Android rom that minimizes that location data gathering bullshit. It probably doesn't make it completely private but it's a start.

Puppies don't last forever user. Soon that pussy will leave to find the next Chad with a puppy.

Such a wide spectrum of reasons I don't really understand how someone could ask this. Information is valuable, and you can do a lot with it.

My main concern is the construction of complex psychological profiles to the point where you can be selectively influenced, if not have your actions predicted before even you know what you'll do.

You're not concerned about identity theft?

for free? you're living in a time where some of the most amazing technology and convenience is only afforded due to big data. Speech recognition, language processing, information retrieval, question and answering, AI becoming smarter, recommendation engines, amazing econometrics going into showing you the most relevant ad for the best price. Or as you may know it "netflix always shows me something to watch", "amazon has good products" (only top suggested are good), "man I love Google Now" or more simply, this website is really crisp, bet they did a lot of A/B and perf testing to make it the best possible experience for the user. You're not doing any work you fool, you're getting tons of benefits and moving society forward.

you sound like my mom when I bought something online in the 90s. So you don't buy anything online? There are risks, but they outweigh the reward. Some can be dumb and give it to that nigerian prince or can never get there dick pics off the net. Discretion advised, but what most people complain about on here is nonsense

There was a story in the news a while back about a teenage girl who started getting loads of baby ads in the mail, because Target tracked all her purchases and guessed she was pregnant. She hadn't yet told her parents about this.

I don't live with my parents.

I remember a bunch of cases where people posted on facebook that they were out on vacation for a bunch of days and that helped robbers to break in the house and safely steal for a bunch of days.

People always assume that their government will be benevolent. Private companies will collect your data to target ads which is annoyance, but a totalitarian regime will strongarm those same companies to hand over all that data.

Next thing you know your on an "Undesirables" list for that post you made on twitter 5 years ago and can expect a visit from the Stazi.

We're all cucks, whether you like it or not. I don't see you doing anything to stop the botnet, because you can't. Just be glad you're not a full blown slave. That could change in the future.

Just because you've worked as a data scientist doesn't mean you fully understand the intention of data-mining. I will not trust you, facebook, google, the government, or anyone with more information about me than I know about myself. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The human body would have already corrected for such problems from the earth's magnetic field. Otherwise we as a species would not be alive. Not mention the quadrillions of organisms that came before us.

Fair enough

I remember hearing about that. But mainly I'm talking about Facebook. I live 2,000 miles away from my family; I pretty much *have* to have one to keep in contact with them. Even then I have very limited information on it. No instagram, snapchat, or anything like that.

If you limit the info you give, you're good, right?

I use links2 as my main browser which doesn't support javascript. I don't see ads, and I rarely ever used amazon. I also don't use netflix. You also keep avoided the fact that all of these industries make billions of dollars off of selling people's data. So yes, people work for free for these companies, and I refuse to do so.

>going into showing you the most relevant ad for the best price.
So in other words, you're trying to distract me from what I want to be doing to get me to buy something I otherwise would not? Also I find it questionable that I'll be shown the best prices, since it's already a thing to show different visitors to websites different prices, based on how rich and motivated to buy the ad-targeting guesses you are.

I don't want "personalized recommendations" from anything. Not products, not entertainment, not search. I will decide what I would like to find and then go looking for it, rather than living in a bubble that reinforces what I already do. To all such services I say, don't call me, I'll call you.

>If you limit the info you give, you're good, right?
You're better, but you're not good.

Call your mom. Phones still work in 2016.