Is Java the best beginner language? Why do universities usually start by teaching java?

Is Java the best beginner language? Why do universities usually start by teaching java?

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my univ started with C and opal

Is that one of them cp pictures with photoshoped on clothes?

because muh java

it's what companies want

Java is a remarkably bad beginner language. It's full of cruft and boilerplate. It forces the programmer into an object-oriented style, which is not useful for simple programs and doesn't expose students to other paradigms.

Python

I started with C++ and loved it, then switched to another degree after the horrors of Java.

I highly doubt it. The one on the model does look fake, but that outfit is for sale.

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Well that's kinda disappointing. I collect said pictures and thought I had found a new one due to how weird those clothes look compared to the rest of the picture but ah well, I'm bound to find more of this sort of stuff on Sup Forums.

>I collect said pictures
Care to share?

I normally wouldn't since they're almost perfectly acceptable(kids aren't naked with all the photoshop that's on it) but I've got banned before so sorry but I'm not gonna do It.

It because Java is/was the most used language in industry.

>Why do universities usually start by teaching java?
Trial by fire/pain

Teach them hell so only the capable survive, and so they'll learn to appreciate the art

Java is the industry standard for business.

Does that look like porn to you?

>she's smiling
OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE

>Is Java the best beginner language?

No, C++14 is.

>Why do universities usually start by teaching java?

Because it's very easy to cheat and get away with it in Java -> high passing rating -> Dean is not breathing down your neck for failing 50% of the neckbeards

swear i saw the original image on Sup Forums back in like 2006

either way this makes me very uncomfortable, mods?

>smiling girl in swimsuit makes you feel uncomfortable
faggot or autist?

Why? It's not nsfw in any way you faggot.

Java is a poor choice. It's confusing for beginners (and experts) lot of crud, poor documentation.

C, and Python(or ruby) are the best.

C for getting a understanding of what's going on.

Python for getting results fast and actually doing stuff that is useful. The docs for most modules are solid. It's a great language folks can leave with and feel like they can do something useful.

Java is just a poor choice and the only reason it's memed at schools is because industry pushed it hard in the late 90s and 2000s

Who is this semen demon?

My uni does Java for one semester then C++ for the second. I'm hoping this semester is a weedout so all the idiots can transfer to the business college already.

>either way this makes me very uncomfortable, mods?
go to your safeplace

they are preparing you to get into the job market.
anyway, we here started with c but that was 10 years ago.

>needing more than one semester to learn coding.

MODS THIS GUY IS UNCOMFORTABLE

But why is he not comfortable?

>hoping java will weed out idiots, not attract them
PAJEET MY SON

Did the original image differ from OP's as this user suggested: ?

It's stable and mature, and the most popular language used in the corporate world.

This doesn't necessarily make it the best language for beginners, but it's a good start in preparing students for what they want to do when they leave: get a job and make money.

it seems like the final product materials changed after the photoshoot, so they hired pajeet to do the photoshopping

>different hairstyle
that's more than just photoship

she's gunna look like she's 40 when she's 27

Just look at this terrible child abuse! We need to arrest the photographers, the swimsuit company, the photo editors, anybody who paid money for this image, anybody who saved this image and anybody who viewed this image online!

That will protect the children!

t. Hillary Clinton

OH MODERATORS...

Can someone explain this "t." meme please?

It means 'regards' in Finnish

t. meme master

That looks photoshopped

>t. newfag

>opal
>FUN fib: nat -> nat
Post uni nignog!

So what? Just reset your router after you get banned.

great to see this thumbnail at the top of the catalog again

who is that semen demon

Python is by far the most fun language to start with.

My python is very fun to start with ;-)

My university had 2 semesters of C before going into Java on the 3rd.

Then again I'm not living in America.

Python and Java are left over trash from a time when the market was very fragmented.

They teach them at Uni because Profs are the lowest form of intelligent life on this planet.

because corporate donors to your universities CS dept. choose what you learn. Google doesn't need to push college kids to learn golang, the driven ones who really want to work at Google will try to learn it just to look good at the interview. But the ho-hum 50k a year companies where technology is supporting the business instead of being the business, like banks and insurance companies... they need you to learn Java, and they know you aren't going to learn it unless they keep shilling it as "THE baseline language to learn if you want a job".

Otherwise, most people would probably end up learning C and either javascript or python, then diving into whatever domain-specific languages their dream job uses.

There is nothing wrong with the images by themselves but context is important. Images like this on the hard drive of a fashion marketer's laptop are fine.

But if images like this are stored on a sweaty basement-dwelling neckbeard's data hoard, right beside similar-looking but unrelated images (for example, kids doing gymnastics or swimming)... said neckbeard is probably retaining them for unwholesome purposes.

It's the same on the internet. These images on a storefront page, to demonstrate the product? Cool! These images on a seedy anonymous Vietnamese basket weaving forum complete with people making creepy comments about them almost unchallenged? Not cool!

>kid does model shoot for swimsuit company
>cool!
>kid does model shoot for erotica company with everything the same as swimsuit setup
>YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE ILL MURDER YOU IF I EVER SEE YOU GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS YOU SICK FUCKING SCUMBAG

>
> It's full of cruft and boilerplate. It forces the programmer into an object-oriented style, which is not useful for simple programs and doesn't expose students to other paradigms.

Why Java is literally Hitler. I know like three people that got totally turned of from programming because of Java

>
>Java is the industry standard for business.

Is this a joke?

It's a good compromise between language simplicity, availability of libre tools and libraries and industry appeal.
We'll see in 20 years how the people raised on OO can adapt to the latest trend in programming but I think it's mostly a matter of personal flexibility rather than education.

>Java is a poor choice.
>poor documentation.
Teenager alert

Most people are averse to child sexuality and are strongly revulsed by the idea of actively exploiting it to produce "erotica". This revulsion is so strong that the related crimes carry some of the highest sentences for any offence, and this is true in almost every culture around the world (and certainly all Western cultures).

It sounds like you have a different set of ethics in this regard entirely. It's good to challenge social norms, I suppose, but you are very unlikely to drum up much support for your position because the revulsion seems to be innate/biological in most.

But to give you a direct answer as to the harm caused:
* When this person is an adult they will rediscover this photoshoot and smile as they remember doing fun stuff as a kid
* But if the same person found child pornography of themselves they will be horrified/disgusted/mortified, partially due to societal norms and partially due to the innate reactions I described above.

Pedo denial spotted. You'd have a point if those swimsuit company photos were focusing on the crotch and ass area, had spread legs, and were lewd as your disgusting russian/japanese cp sets.

I've seen some of the shit you're referring to posted around during my years on here and that shit is sad and creepy. I feel bad for those girls. Now you'll say "b-b-ut their parents are ok with that!", fuck you, they should lose custody of their kids if they force them to travel to japan and get photographed for you sick fucks.

My uni was python first then C++

What do you recommend then?

Since the whole world is moving to the cloud and web apps and since you can have a whole Photoshop now running a browser ( pixlr ) and a whole OFfice (Google Doc) and since you can make native phone apps with JS... there's no reason to learn any other language than JS in 2016

Yes there are some needs that JS cannot cover like system programming, low level stuff , and some gay ass legacy

But otherwise just go with JS it's called "THE ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE OF THE WEB" for a reason

>But if the same person found child pornography of themselves they will be horrified/disgusted/mortified
Is that why they post photos from their shoots onto their facebook and instagram pages?

Laws are meant to protect people from harm, not protect your feelings from logic.

>UGH, gross, how dare someone THINK naughty thoughts about a child
>UGH, GROSS, how can a child leave the house without her face covered!? What if a man found her attractive then she would get PTSD from such abuse!
>Oh yeah, I'm going to watch Kickass on the weekend. Apparently hitgirl had to wear that latex costume for hours under hot stage lights and it was lots of hard work for her. Luckily she didn't look TOO sexy otherwise they would have had to incarcerate everyone involved in the filming and myself for child abuse for 5-15 years and have our names put on the sex offender registry

>>UGH, gross, how dare someone THINK naughty thoughts about a child

There is a difference between THINKING and shipping your kids to japan for money so that japanese sick fucks pay big yen for the photosets, and you can pirate it for free.

>>UGH, GROSS, how can a child leave the house without her face covered!? What if a man found her attractive then she would get PTSD from such abuse!

Way to overexaggerate faggot.

>Oh yeah, I'm going to watch Kickass on the weekend. Apparently hitgirl had to wear that latex costume for hours under hot stage lights ...

Again you overexaggerate like a fucking retarded pedo in denial. Give me a screenshot where Hitgirl assumes sexy poses, where you can see a cameltoe, spread eagle position, the camera focusing on her ass, etc.

Guess what, nothing of this happens unlike in your degenerate borderline cp from japan.

>Again you overexaggerate like a fucking retarded pedo in denial. Give me a screenshot where Hitgirl assumes sexy poses, where you can see a cameltoe, spread eagle position, the camera focusing on her ass, etc.
But that has nothing to do with the child or how she feels, only how others react. Out of curiosity, let's assume Kickass doesn't have any provocative Hitgirl shots, but I still jacked off to her, would that be wrong and should it be illegal?

Of course not, since nobody got exploted and you can do whatever you want to your dick. Even if you say those kids have their parents permission to get lewd pictures taken of themselves they're still being exploited for sex, and I'm sure they're going to regret the everlasting fuck out of it and be mad at their parents when they realize their pics are lewd and meant for pedos to masturbate.

And if you try to blame me for fapping to exploitative over18 pornography (because who the fuck hasn't fapped to hardcore gonzo porn at least once right?), that's not a good comparison either because unless the girl doing gonzo porn has been forced (and 99% of the time it's not the case), they're 18+ so they choose to get brutally throatfucked or gangbanged.

Kids do not understand those pics are meant for masturbation so they've been exploited.

That being said, the age of consent is 14 here so I would make non-nude modeling legal for 14+ and nude modeling to 16. Everything under 14 is rightfully illegal because it's fucked up and exploitative by definition, and if you fap to that kind of material you should feel bad about yourself.

'k, just checking for choerence.
>That being said, the age of consent is 14 here
Portugal?

I might share some if I had a working proxy because mods are fags. But I don't.

in Germany if you're under 18, you may photograph or film yourself performing sex acts if it's consensual, not for profit, and adults are not involved.

Thank God for family nudism websites.

Germany and you're still a sick fuck in denial. At least blame having a mental illness, it's still better than being a sick fuck in denial.

>you're still a sick fuck in denial.
This was my first post , other guy stopped posting. I'm not into kids, just like to discuss the topic. I agree with most of what you said, just think it's a different discussion altogether (i.e. more about child slavery than child porn).

Daily reminder that AOC in the US was once 10 before feminism happened.

>thread still not 404ed
Get cracking, mods.

Confirmed.

Y tho

>There is a difference between THINKING and shipping your kids to japan for money so that japanese sick fucks pay big yen for the photosets, and you can pirate it for free.
Luckily that NEVER happens for movies. Oh god, can you imagine the abuse they had to go through? Just imagine being a young girl war brutally forced to go on vacation to another place, given free accommodation with your parent and then had to go to a mansion, dress up in cute outfits and play with other girls until it was your turn to spend a white posing for a camera!

I think I just got PTSD, anxiety and schizophrenia for just writing that. I'm so triggered right now.


But I see what your problem is. The abuse (and PTSD) comes from having a photo taken of you with your legs spread open. Wow, thank you for enriching me with your genius level critical thinking skills.

You are so right! We need to march up to George Lucas and charge him with decades in jail for all those children he EXPLOITED in his movies. Young anakin's life is DESTROYED thanks to that man. He was just a child and had no idea what he was doing! We need to put George in jail for at least 50 years

Oh and btw you're not officially a sex offender for looking at this image.

>thinking you can fully learn programming in one semester
non-CS major detected, I bet you think CS is just loops and shit

l-lewd!

If Java was what turned them off programming, they weren't cut out to be in CS

>implying ip would change
>implying dynamic ip is free

Is Java more difficult to pick up than c?

>comparing movies to his sick fuck japanese borderline illegal child porn
>T-this cherrypicked image from my fap folder will show him! Just give me 5 minutes to find it among all the spread legs, focus un ass & crotch, provocative and borderline bdsm pics I have in my illegal fap folder

You sick fucks are hilarious.

>Comparing normal entertainment to shit only sick fucks find entertaining

Also why did you post that specific pic? I've seen illegal pics of that very same girl posted on Sup Forums and Sup Forums. Why don't you post those to prove your point, sicko? Oh she was forced to make a photoshoot where she isn't spreading her legs wearing nothing, this justifies my entire collection agent!

>no guise, GUISE srsly, girls getting photos taken of them is REALLY HARMFUL because .... uhhh... they have to do everything young actresses do... and uhh... oh shit... hang on...
>it's harmful because in some photos you see their crotch and that's bad... like marijuana!
>WOAH BTFO, you didn't expect that did you? WOOOOOoooo

>that fucking comparison


I think you pedos somewhat go along the stereotyped r9k neckbeard. Like spergy, spaghetti lords, ugly, fat, nerdy, socially stunted asspies.

So there is nothing wrong with all those things but I think the reason they develop the fetish for little girls is because they relate most to little girls. They are not intimidating. They do not have sexual experience; the are weak, easily manipulated, prone to escapism (through anime, sci fi, fantasy, etc), and they are childish obviously. All those things are exactly like the pedo himself only the pedo is a grown male not a little girl.

Pedos see themselves not as a monster (like society does) because pedos personality aspects are usually not aggressive or rape like. In fact they are usually the most passive beta guys ever.

Sexualizing children is a way for a pedo to gain some kind of power control or normalcy back in life because he can not picture himself with an adult woman.

Because the pedo has faced countless cruelty and rejection they demonize adult women. They are usually very misogynistic, bitter, and resentful towards adult females but view child females as untouched by the bitchy attitudes that you think adults have.

>girls getting photos taken of them

Why don't you specify WHAT KIND OF photos?

You already have them in your collection faggot. Why don't you post those to prove your point? Post the one where she's in bdsm attire with a whip.

>uhh, legalize gay porn!?
>only sick fucks want to watch gay porn!
>and that's why it's banned

>my women's health magazine said pedos are only ever sick, disgusting neckbeards so that means it's true!
>UGH, could you imagine what kind of SICK FUCKING FREAK would be attracted to a 17.9 year old female? Like only FUCKING FREAKY WEIRDOS aren't attracted to mature and developed women of motherly age
>How DARE YOU have the same sexual preferences as human males have had for their entire existence.

>Post the one where she's in bdsm attire with a whip.
Fine, here's your child abuse

qt3.14

Why don't you post the pic I'm referring to? You definitely have, so if it's so harmless like a pic of hit girls just post it. Post the entire set to prove your point even further.

Also I said above that I have nothing against fucking 14 years old if they consent. In my country it's legal as well. You are claiming that pics of

are little boys /technology/ too?

bruh do you project much

By the way, Chle Moretz was what, 16 years old in the first KickAss? This pic you posted here from your illegal fap folder clearly shows a girl under 10.

Sick fuck, retarded, deluded autismo.

In my college, the first language we use is Pascal, but we quickly move on to C.

>In my college, the first language we use is Pascal

Is this 1985?

S1:
-structure, pointers, memory allocs
S2
-linked list
S3
-tree, hash tables, bit manipulation
S4
-graph, system calls(entry level)
S5
-more system calls (fork(), exec(), ...), socket, signal handler, how to make deb and rpm packages
S6
low level optimizations (memory management, structure optimizations, ...), non-debuggable software (gdb shitting himself), fork bomb, how to exploit buffer overflow, compiler with bison and flex and other funny things you can't do with gih level languages.

I was suppose to learn java in S5 but I started learning it the day before the exam and had 13/20.

TL;DR
if your uni teach java only first, they most likely want to turn you into a code monkey, go to an uni with more maths or low-level shit.

>You are claiming that pics of

is this the, if you vote for trump you're a white supremacist defense

>Then post some nudes of a 14 year old if it's legal

It's not illegal but mods are fags, so...

>To anything less than an 18 year old
So, 17 years old and 6 months is completely out of table?
Also, girls develop at different rates. Some already have asses and tits by 15 years old.
We are attracted to the "consent capacity" or "an artificially defined number that represents the passing of time"? No, we are mainly sexually attracted to the body.

why are you even arguing with him if its legal where you are

then you're just arguing based on moral issues

No

Anybody who is attracted to a female under the age of 18 or person the same sex as them is mentally ill and a drain on society because they're useless, fat, ugly, neckbeard virgins and should involuntarily be put in a psych ward and be chemically castrated before they rape somebody (which they most certainly will). There are no exceptions.

Why else would so many people be opposed to this view point?