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Boot with UEFI or BIOS for a ZFS root? BIOS with GRUB seems simpler but I wouldn't mind getting rid of it.
Connor Moore
stop complicating your life.
Gabriel Turner
Because enabling one kernel option for efi stub support is so fucking hard.
GRUB isn't needed on EFI systems.
Jordan Anderson
fuck off finally. this isn't reddit. post anonymously or fuck off, faggot.
Grayson Rogers
Until someone tells me any good reason to use UEFI, I say stick with MBR and use grub
Post a guide/resource about it instead of being a smug elitist weeaboo tripcuck.
Ethan Price
I'm balls deep in fucknig shit Sup Forums and I need your fucking help. This is serious. Where is a stream for The Walking Dead Season 6????!!@@.12>
Connor Hughes
>Where is a stream for The Walking Dead Season 6? Also stop wasting your time on such a shittily made show
Zachary Moore
Found it without your help. Got to watch my waifu
Tyler Carter
>elitest lol ok kid efibootmgr is in the screenshot, i specifically told you the kernel option "EFI STUB" and pretty much the only thing else you would need to know is that UEFI requires a vfat filesystem.
Might be that you are just a fucking retard, its easier than GRUB.
Whenever I apply arc theme to XFCE, my controls in the applet get fucked up. The sliders are gone, and in the wifi menu in particular, things no longer highlight on mouseover. Instead, it just looks like a list with icons you click on, and it looks like shit.
Anybody ever experienced a problem with this? I've used arc + xfce on a xubuntu machine in the past, but debian testing just fights me at every corner.
by the way I don't mean the icons for wifi. Some retard thought he was being snarky by calling me out on my icon theme as the problem, but I can assure you that is NOT the issue.
Chase Powell
Wifi-menu looks like this
Alexander Thompson
Is there a way to generate a list of packages installed with pacman (and maybe packages from AUR) for easy reinstallation on another machine?
Austin Stewart
Theme is fucking with gtk widget alignment. Its a shitty theme. Edit it yourself to fix it.
Chase Perez
It seems like you have a broken GTK+3 theme. They deprecated some stuff in the theming engine in the same major version (absolutely unacceptable), which broke many themes. Try different themes or see if there is an updated version of your current one.
Fucking wicked bummer. I'll edit myself maybe one of these days or Just find another.
Wait, really? Are you saying something in gtk was depreciated, or gtk-xfce-engine (so in xfce 4.12)
Either way, I can believe that both of them fucked it up.
Benjamin Young
>want to try gentoo >load up qemu >launch > takes 5 minutes to get out of init >given a gui login >click login >spend 5 minutes waiting for it to load everything. >holy shit this is so bloated what the fuck
>load arch in qemu >1 minute after launch im in a root liveiso environment ready to go
What the fuck man
Anthony Morris
Yes
Landon Cook
Perhaps he is not from USA, in which case the word 'already' would actually be completely incorrect.
Ethan Ward
>try gentoo >5mins for init >gui login If you don't see why this makes no sense you're not ready for gentoo. What ever you downloaded and did it wasn't gentoo.
i was putting a keybinding in the openbox rc.xml and made an error forgot a tag and when i fixed it openbox had changed colors, for example terminal was now black and background grey which is better than it being white
i really like that, but what happened, do i have to do anything now?
Ayden Harris
fucking retard
Ayden Collins
Which packages are installed should already be some kind of configuration file. Perhaps you can copy that over?
Jaxon Barnes
So what secret site is there for gentoo then? gentoo.org is a scam site i presume?
Leo Lee
You are comparing a purposely big and bloated live disk to a minimal shell. Install gentoo the regular way until you are at the same stage as the arch iso is and then compare.
Josiah Jackson
>man pacman >find the flag which lists all packages >redirect the output (stdout) with your shell to a file
Since it's a doggy-dog world, you could care less about spending a few minutes reading man pages. Wa la
Blake Gomez
Your window manager (Openbox) has nothing to do with your terminal emulator's color scheme.
Connor Wilson
did you maybe bind your terminal key to another terminal emulator than before?
Hudson Long
Oh okay, I see what the deal is now. Had to crawl through a couple of git repositories to see it was a GTK issue.
Holy shit, what are the gtk devs thinking as of late? Stuff like this legitimately just frustrates me because this isn't the first time a gtk update broke something stupid.
Mason Foster
>could care less You may want to spend a few minutes reading a grammar man page :^)
probably cos they dont give a shit about the five manchildren who think desktop themes are cool
Sebastian Brown
>Devs don't care about their users cuz they're manchildren xddd
Sebastian Turner
How is it a GTK issue if you're using a broken theme that's not keeping up with the underlying core component that it's a theme for? EIther use the default theme which always works (Adwaita) or find another theme which is keeping up with development.
> it is a consciously created issue [citation needed]
Benjamin Roberts
I want to learn how to use emacs. Which one do I download?
Aaron Clark
Honestly GTK 3.0 has been a big fat mess. Features that people have been wanted have gone ignored for years, but they have no problem fucking with shit that isn't necessary. It boggles my mind.
Shittiest bait I've ever read on this board. I'm ashamed to be replying.
But you're not wrong in that they clearly don't care what goes on outside of their bubble.
I got arc going though, I just had to build and make install from the git itself.
Wyatt Williams
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.
Gavin Adams
>Features that people have been wanted have gone ignored for years Name some of those features.
Gabriel Hernandez
GUI because it looks nicer and because Emacs has a built-in terminal.
arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/linux-bug-leaves-1-4-billion-android-users-vulnerable-to-hijacking-attacks/ >An estimated 80 percent of Android phones contain a recently discovered vulnerability that allows attackers to terminate connections and, if the connections aren't encrypted, inject malicious code or content into the parties' communications, researchers from mobile security firm Lookout said Monday. >The vulnerability makes it possible for anyone with an Internet connection to determine whether any two parties are communicating over a long-lived transport control protocol connection, such as those that serve Web mail, news feeds, or direct messages. In the event the connections aren't encrypted, attackers can then inject malicious code or content into the traffic. Even when the connection is encrypted, the attacker may still be able to determine a channel exists and terminate it. The vulnerability is classified as CVE-2016-5696. >Linux >secure Where were you when Linux lost it's chance at becoming a reputable kernel? Are you regretting buying that lagdroid phone? You still have a chance to go with OpenBSD.
Charles Long
Anyone here uses BTRFS?
Mason Ramirez
Why cant debian mount dvd movies by itself and I have to type some very obscure terminal command myself?
Grayson Cox
to install from a list; while read i; do pacman -S --noconfirm $i; done < list.txt (installs one thing at a time to avoid potential too-many-arguments on long lists)
Jackson Gonzalez
Because debian is pants.
Michael Ortiz
Nobody?
Ethan Gomez
Thoughts on Void Linux?
Going to try it tonight, looks pretty cool.
William Edwards
"looks"?
Cameron Wood
Yeah what the other user said. Debian is arguably a lot more work than arch to get to a functional place if you're coming from Windows.
Look into udisks-glue
Leo Young
So am I missing a package on debian that handles screen locks?
Whenever my computer goes to sleep, or I press "lock screen" it shits the bed and I have to reboot it.
Might be something that xfce4 didn't include.
Easton Martin
Thanks mate Folks here told me to go with debian because ubuntu is botnet
Josiah Jones
Do: echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state that directly sends a suspend to ram command to kernel skipping your DE, if it still poops itself then you know it's not your xfce4 but down to how your kernel and hardware interacts with each other
Nathaniel Davis
>Folks here told me to go with debian because ubuntu is botnet You're a gullible fool then. I'm surprised you didn't install gentoo.
Joshua Morales
if I have one DE and install another, am I going to get annoying doubling programs etc.?
Jacob Scott
what's the source of the pic?
Isaac Lee
Okay well that narrows it down somewhat, so thanks. Seems the kernel is fine.
So, I got curious and tried running light-locker-command -l manually. Instead of going to light-locker like it SHOULD, it turns off my main monitor, and just displays a blinking line on my other monitor. But no ttl, and I can't get into one by ctrl alt F(X)ing.
So I installed gnome-screensaver and tried running gnome-screensaver-command -l and same thing.
Kind of weird, anybody know what's causing this, or where the problem lies? It's nothing SUPER pressing, but it's frustrating.
Grayson Adams
chapter 11
Jack Barnes
of what?
Isaac Clark
i think you're retarded. google it ffs
Isaiah Johnson
i wouldn't have asked if google had returned acceptable answers
Ayden Morales
it actually does, you can find the source with a simple google!
Xavier Flores
ah nevermind found it :)
Alexander Thomas
Gentoo is love. Gentoo is life.
Christopher Bennett
How do I change xmonad's stupid multihead defaults? The screens should have their own windows and be inside the same workspace at all times.
Alexander Jackson
Yes, it's fully switched to CSS-like theming which is easier for theme creators.
>whaaa i can't use a 5 year old theme whaaaa Update it yourself.
Blake Lee
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.
Noah Howard
Total n00b here. I want to make Fedora Linux my main OS(i can run Qemu here for muh games, right?), but first i´m learning all i can about it in a VM, however, it works too laggy. Should i switch from Oracle VM? (i'm in W7 with a I5 2320 and i gave it 3 Gb of ram power).
Camden Jenkins
>Fedora Found your problem
Oliver Reyes
>strawmanning Minor version updates should never break compatibility, retard
Aiden Thompson
What is his problem? Can you back it up with reasonable facts or are you just parroting memes and stock responses you picked up on here to appear smart?
Lincoln Sullivan
Why not just boot it from a USB? It will run smoother. Ignore posts like that.
Levi Hernandez
Fedrora is not meant to be a main OS, total noob. It's an experimentation distro, it's not stable. VM performance should be the least of your concerns
John Richardson
> is not meant to be a main OS What's a "main OS"?
>experimentation distro What makes it an experimentation distro?
>it's not stable How is it not stable? What is your definition of stable? I have a feeling that it's something as stupid as using older versions of software which coincide with Debian's stable branch.
Ryan Edwards
Trash
Dylan Carter
Get out this is a "friendly" Linux thread
Cameron Miller
>What's a "main OS"? You tell me >What makes it an experimentation distro? "RHEL's test subject" how does that sound?
>How is it not stable? Stable packages are moved to RHEL while Fedora gets new packages to test for RHEL
Adrian Morales
I'm running it as my main OS right now and I never had a single problem. It even recognized that fucking wacom digitizer out of the box, which really surprised me.
Eli Sanchez
I wonder how most open-source developers make their livelihood.
If I were rich, I would feel absolutely fine with working for free. I wouldn't need money anymore, so I just work toward the utopia of free-software to enrich the lives of my fellow man.
However, if you're still wage-slaving life and spend all of your free time working for free, you're a cuck. This is time you could've been developing closed-source pay software that could free you from the wage-slave life.
Justin Hernandez
Is the init war truly over? Has systemd become as much an inherent part of Linux as the kernel itself and the GNU coreutils? Are systemd-free distros an irrelevant deadend fringe in 2016 and beyond?
Jason Nguyen
I'm not the guy who wrote "main OS".
>"RHEL's test subject" how does that sound? Highly subjective and relative.
>Stable packages are moved to RHEL while Fedora gets new packages to test for RHEL And? People are using the latest released versions of programs on Windows and Mac OS and those are considered stable with no one complaining. How does running the latest released (from upstream) version on Linux make it unstable?
Wyatt Hernandez
>systemd-free distros an irrelevant deadend fringe in 2016 and beyond? Yes, for a good reason
Now we want a standardized package format like snaps
Joseph Stewart
>Highly subjective and relative. Are you actually denying the well established fact that Fedora is a lab rat for RHEL?
>How does running the latest released (from upstream) version on Linux make it unstable? Same reason why RHEL doesn't have the latest packages in their latest stable brunch
Robert Allen
I've decided to switch to MATE in place of xfce because I just think it does everything xfce can do but much better. I'm having a small issue with system colors though. It doesn't seem to be registering the theme default colors. The colors all work fine and set themselves, but for one reason or the other, wants no business with detecting them. I can easily set them myself, although unlike on my archtop with MATE, I have to logout and log in to see changes. I also can't be specific with the color, because the dialog isn't the same.
I imagine I'm just missing a few packages or something. Anyone know what it is?
Alexander Anderson
Isn't the problem numix only? I don't think all the themes can be modified through that panel
