>Using Windows 10. >Updating your BIOS when you know it's gonna gimp you. >Buying dual-core CPU in 2016.
The Jewishness of Intel is the least worrisome thing about this post.
David Turner
The G3258 isn't even anything I'd ever consider, but apparently it OC'd well and Intel had to gimp it, because god forbid you get anything for your dollar.
Ryder Walker
Those old Phenom X3's were made using binned quad cores that had a single busted core. Unlocking that core rarely did anything of worth performance wise, a lot of the time it would just prevent the system from POSTing. Yet idiots lapped that ship up and went out of their way to try and hit that silicon lottery, when they could have just bought a real quad core for marginally less money and saved a whole lot of time and effort.
AMD did nothing because it gave their brand an artificial sense of bonus value. Same thing happened with the early Radeon 6950s which you could "unlock" into 6970s with a bios flash.
Ethan Rogers
What did you OC it to? I hot mine to 4.1
Brody Hernandez
marginally more money**
Levi Wilson
I have those unlocked 6950's. It worked most of the time for the reference models.
Owen Carter
It only worked 100% for a handful of cards, the very first batch where you had some fully functional 6970s relabeled and sold as 6950s to meet demand at launch. After that you were dealing with binned 6970s, and the flashed cards tended to die in ~6-12 months from overvolted memory.
Grayson Baker
>Intel makes microcode updates in the BIOS and in windows to crash your overclocked G3258 [citation needed]
David Butler
I never defended Intel. They clearly block basic features like OC behind premium $200+ CPUs just so poorfags and wisefags don't dare to get similar performance to idiots that build expensive pre-builds and overall have no idea wtf they're doing. BUT it doesn't change fact that AMD is 5 years behind Intel and 2 years behind Nvidia and I'm not fucking retarded enough to sink my money into garbage products just because morally it's the right thing to do. It's like sending your money to kids in Africa to build wells just so those wells can be destroyed or poisoned year later by another bunch of rebels. Africa is an endless money sink just like AMD.
Cameron Kelly
4.6 core / 4.2 uncore at 1.261v/1.9v with stock intel cooler and 50 dollar board, cores never go above 69c (unless running prime)
I was somehow "prime stable" and IBT stable at 1.245/1.8v but GTA5 would BSOD occasionally all the way up to 1.26v, and the game would crash when driving fast bikes through the city until I upped the VRING(uncore) +.1v
If you have a "weak board" with 3/4 phase delivery just up the input voltage (VRIN not VRING) to 1.5x VCORE but stay below VCORE+0.6v, this will guarantee you wont drop below nominal voltage under load (1.8v)
I dont recommend running prime if your temps go above 80c, the pentium is a small die so the cores will transfer heat to other parts of the chip faster than other cpus
If you get a good chip you can easily best the latest i7s in single/dual core workloads, not bad for 60 bucks
Jack Smith
You're defending intel right now you stupid bear
Owen Nelson
>intel makes your g3258 crash
the fuck are you on about fuccboi? my g3258 runs stable on a mitx z87i pro at 4,5ghz and no crashes of any sort
what's your deal?
John Sanders
>Can enable ECC on any AMD processor past athlon in the OS configuration.
Joseph Cruz
>the pentium is a small die so the cores will transfer heat to other parts of the chip faster than other cpus What? It literally is the same die as the i3/i5/i7 consumer chips.
Didn't it also work with flashing a 7970 bios on a 7950? Heard a lot of people doing that.
Gavin Powell
Is it a surprise that win10 is literally shit?
Anything else and it works fine and dandy, try 8.1
Jayden Edwards
Yup. And 480 4GB to 8GB.
Grayson Watson
AMD did nothing because they couldn't so anything, after that they lasered off the disabled cores
Anthony Harris
He is just saying that they are the more logical decision for performance, not saying that they are a good company or anything.
Dominic Hill
>cpu starts dying en masse >not only lose i3 sales but forced to replace millions of cpus
Zachary Gray
>If you get a good chip you can easily best the latest i7s in single/dual core workloads
umm no
My cpu score> yours i7 6700 non-k btw
Zachary Turner
>Part OC:d to 4.0 GHz vs part OC:d to 3.5GHz >No data whatsoever on the RAM >Somehow debunking the idea that part OC:d to 3.5 GHz can be overclocked to the part OC:d to 4.0 GHz if it's OC:d more I see Sup Forums decided to pay this thread a visit with it's usual levels of stupidity...
Jason Perry
They're absolute assholes but if you're shopping above the budget market there are no other options.
Christopher Johnson
>I was somehow "prime stable" and IBT stable at 1.245/1.8v but GTA5 would BSOD occasionally all the way up to 1.26v, and the game would crash when driving fast bikes through the city until I upped the VRING(uncore) +.1v Prime and IBT aren't much good for assessing Haswell stability, I assume that's because of the AVX voltage fuckery that goes on. I found the OCCT test to be much more relevant in general.
Kevin Ross
You have no idea what clocks the cpu is running at besides in the reference
This is a skylake comparison the RAM frequency makes no difference it's a processor comparison you retarded piece of shit, it will bench same score at 2133 than it would at 3000
Wyatt Rivera
Well my pentium scored 2133 on the single threaded test, any idea why are you scoring so much higher than the reference 6700K?
I am locked into 1400mhz on this platform but I also used cheap LV budget memory and never tried raising the system agent and IO voltages to see where they take me (can't budge from CAS 10)
Strange thing about the memory is that they were bought a year apart and have the same part number (KVR16LN11) and specs all the way down the line, but the first chip was low profile and the other is normal sized
Ethan Hill
because it's overclocked to 4.4Ghz
it can pull much higher score than even that at higher clocks especially in multithread i can push it to past 10K whether that will be stable or not depends on the motherboard and setup
Assuming the clocks are the same the 6700K should still be able to beat mine though
Kevin Hill
Any such unlock gimmicks for Phenom II x6 processors
Ryan Brown
So you are using base clock to overclock right? you should probably enable HPET in the BIOS and then force it in Windows after a reboot, I heard of people having audio and phantom timing/scheduling issues with LAPIC
bcdedit /set useplatformclock true
Run that elevated
Oliver King
thx user I just did that and reboot and yeah there definately is an performance increase, my bios does have that feature enabled, I thought it would of been enabled by default in windows 10 but seems it's not
Jaxson Jackson
Thanks but I am done with stressing, its only my htpc after all. The main thing I took away was that stressing under full load is not the whole story (and it never was but haswells fIVR allows some crazy overclocks with less-than-optimal power delivery)
It's a good thing the G3258 doesn't support AVX because I would need some overpriced aftermarket cooling which throws the whole economy of the chip out the window
np, you may also want to disable core parking and C-states above C2 (in BIOS) if you want rock bottom latency (disabling C1E is getting into meme territory)
I'll start buying AMD cpus when they stop being shit
Ayden Parker
I'm curious does speedstep still work with your baseclock modified? if not you can safely disable EIST at BIOS level for a further drop in latency
Connor Bennett
Yeah I already got C states disabled completely don't think so I also got it disabled but haven't tried it
Joseph Martin
That's good advice but I think core parking is set another way in Windows 10
Jeremiah Reed
What the fuck, you can't OC the G3258 any more?
Thomas Evans
You can, but you can't update your motherboard bios, or get a certian windows 10 update that makes it BSOD if its OC'd.
Noah Clark
>be a cuck >let people do whatever they want, fuck running a stable business amirite, we're mostly center-left here anyway, punks not dead >fail
>be normal intelligent person >realize making money is the top priority because none of the other goals can be reached without dough >succeed
Nathaniel Lopez
Doesn't that specifically apply to non-z motherboards?
All my motherboards are z97. So I should be fine.
Evan Bailey
But the G3258 is officially unlocked.
Charles Gutierrez
Keep sucking that Intel cock, user. Good thing we didn't have this microcode bullshit back in the Q6600 days, where you could OC the shit out of that or get an Allendale Pentium and get really good single core out of that too.
Carson Morris
nah, some of the 4 core amds could be unlocked to 6 core, but that was because they were using the same die, kind of like why some 2 and 3 cores could unlock to 4 core, they only made one die fits all.
Bentley Cooper
Naw dude, successful unlocks are pretty common. I know two dudes with them and it's not like I ask everybody if they have unlocked a Phenom II X3.
Hunter Russell
Regardless of it being a lottery, AMD didn't fuck you over if you managed to unlock a fully working quad core that was sold as an X3.
Jeremiah Wood
>build wells just so those wells can be destroyed or poisoned year later by another bunch of rebels. you mean like the trillions spent on iraq? or the trillions being spent in afghanistan still? your tax dollars hard at work :^)