How do we STILL not have a viable flash alternative?

Yeah, I know "Flash, sucks!"
Okay, sure, but doing something in flash was easy.
If I wanted to make something draggable, with a drop shadow when dragging, and then when you let go it smoothly returned to the original position. It took like 3 lines of code.
To do the same thing in HTML5 it seems to be impossible.
Ditto with canvas.

SVG animations(combined with css and javascript) seemed like a promising start, but oh look, all the browsers are phasing out smil.

So basically if you want to make something interactive, you're fucked. You don't just get rid of something until you have a decent alternative in place.

Flash is dying by 2017 whether a replacement gets made or not.

Nah, Flash has been 'dead' for about 2 years now. As soon as apple got rid of it and everyone else followed.
The problem is we don't have any other tools to make decent quality stuff. People say to just use canvas or HTML5, but both those alternatives aren't nearly as robust.

>flash player
more like
>porn video player

>Flash is dying by 2017
Maybe. A lot of sites have a lot of money invested in Flash.
I'm trying to buy furniture from Ikea. The planner for configuring my purchase needs Flash. Neither my phone or tablet run Flash.
Rather than buy a new PC I'll just shop elsewhere.

>but both those alternatives aren't nearly as robust yet.
Fixed.
Implying Flash was ever robust.

Unless they completely redo HTML5 from the ground up and Canvas from the ground up they will never be a viable flash alternative.

Pornhub & other sites have been using HTML5 players for a long while now, user.

seems like your problem isn't that flash player is being phased out but that there's no Flash Professional type software specifically for exporting to HTML5/JS.

The technology is fine. (If you *really* need vector graphics, there's also SVG.) The problem is that there's no Flash Pro alternative for modern web technologies. You have to do everything by hand, like some sort of caveman.

there's no reason you'd need flash unless you're using stupid flash games or Omegle. HTML5 works on YouTube, Vimeo and even PornHub

>stupid flash games
Those were the best thing on the internet 10 years ago. Now that Flash is dead all we've got are shitty mobile games.

Flash Professional(now called Adobe Animate) has supported exporting to HTML5 for years. It also supports WebGL and SVG.

This
I miss newgrounds

how come canvas or webgl or w.e performance is worse today than flash was 6 years ago?

There is literally no reason to use flash anymore. The last big site that required it(Twitch) finally completely ditched it a couple of months ago.

It is 100 times easier to code something in flash.
Not to mention you don't have to worry about compatibility issues and css support like you might have to with 30 different browsers.

Lightspark

That's on you for falling fore the "flash sucks" meme in the first place. Now you got it up your ass.

>Only using iOS

Because it's not one company calling the shots, leading development. There's a lack of focus, standardization.

There's development 'consortiums', different browser implementations, etc.

If there is no animation format, it's because Adobe bought and destroyed it. I'm going to throw party when they go out of business.

>Adobe
>going out of business
okay lad

this
only that java is the real sucky software
and it's up everyones ass now :(

I hate that there is no alternative to Flash with it's single-file-all-in-one-portable-universal functions.

It just works, and it works everywhere.
Don't need 20 different scripting languages 30 different files and certainly not always-online for it to work.

I can grab a 15 year old game made in flash and play it on every PC as long as flash is installed.
It supports vector rendering so even if the flash is 15 years old it's gonna look crisp on 4K monitors due to vector images.

svg isn't an alternative yet.