>In February 2014, authorities executed a search warrant at a residence in Mesquite on Point East Drive after an undercover detective with the Sherman Police Department noticed a particular computer was making files of child pornography.
Can anyone explain how the detective found this out? Are all computers under surveillance? I honestly don't know but it seems like a crazy invasion of privacy regardless of the crime. It said the computer was "making files". WTF does that mean?
>his computer was spontaneously generating child abuse
Has science gone too far?
Austin Young
And? How does that explain anything?
Aiden Martin
>Can anyone explain how the detective found this out? Are all computers under surveillance? I honestly don't know but it seems like a crazy invasion of privacy regardless of the crime. It said the computer was "making files". WTF does that mean?
Probably that the reporter fucked up, the actual charge probably read something like "making files available for download"
Ya know all those super secret places on the interwebs? The cops know about them too, and they monitor them. In the case of local departments they just sit in chat rooms or file sharing sites and harvest IP addresses. If they find one in their jurisdiction they have a closer look at what they're up to. My guess is that this guy was on a file sharing network that was being monitored. IP's are not private, and its not an invasion of privacy if you're actively making files available for download.>Are all computers under surveillance? In addition to the NSA? Not specifically however... The government along with the National Center for Missing and Exploited children maintains a database of confirmed cp file hashes. Cloud storage, web mail, and social networking sites have an agreement that they automatically check if these hashes are being shared or stored. If its detected the service provider forwards that info to the authorities.
Eli Smith
>Computer was making It was... making them? How?
Jace Baker
duplicating them/downloading them it news reports it usually means that
Samuel Scott
Did they shoot the first houses dog? Should I secure my WiFi? I leave it open to be a neighborhood bro.
Carter Edwards
I actually do leave my guest network open and honestly I'm not worried about it
Juan Bailey
>database of confirmed cp hashes that is checked against by every major website Bullshit
Robert Nelson
its been known for ages you idiot
Aiden Watson
That's a massive waste of resources and I won't believe it until you post multiple sources.
Julian Cook
There was a story about someone getting nabbed for keeping illegal images on his OneDrive a few years back. I don't feel like Googling it.
Do you really have trouble believing that in a post-Snowden internet?
Landon Phillips
the only thing i'd take issue with is "every major website", the search engines sure, most cloud storage yes, espn.com i doubt.
Aaron Harris
check out Microsoft PhotoDNA
Aiden Thompson
>The cops know about them too No fucking way. You mean, one could be here? RIGHT NOW?!
Anthony Parker
Not a source
Ayden Young
*waves*
Oliver Powell
Why link one when you can search the goddamn name of the service that I fucking posted to find any number of sources you like?
Joshua Bennett
>*waves* *grabs you by the throat*
Colton Barnes
Because photoDNA doesn't work by searching hashes and comparing against a worldwide CP database. It's bullshit and you know it.
Mason Lopez
>? Are all computers under surveillance?
>undercover detective You literally answered your own question, faggot.
Zachary Cooper
This was one of my favorite songs when I was a kid.
That's a pretty sweet looking fan desu senpai, do you know where I could buy one. (AMD owner)
Noah Hall
Post badge or GTFO
Jaxson Jones
That's exactly how PhotoDNA works as claimed by msft's page on it. How do you think it works?
Carter Collins
How do you do fellow Sup Forums "Anons", does anyone know where I can find some special "pizza"? *wink wink*
Josiah Flores
distributors and producers of child porn usually do the following: one scenario is, that they team up with blackhats and rent their botnets. joe everydays computer is, unknown to him, thanks to a trojan part of one of this botnets. they just store the illegal files on his hard drive, fire up an ftp and that's the part joe everyday hangs himself in jail because he was distributing cp.
the other scenario is, that they team up with carders and rent servers from western services, create virtual machines accessible via vpn to their customers.
there is a long german text from an former insider about this on wikileaks, maybe there'S already a translation. he goes detailed into this.
Robert Stewart
from /dev/random of course
Angel Wilson
Neural networks you fucking retard. How the hell could they identify images based on the content of the image if all it did was scan hashes? Do you think Microsoft has an extensively commented database of every image on the internet to compare hashes against?
Nathaniel Jones
why yes, its much better than searching deviantart for sci fi pics
Julian Baker
There is a database of cp hashes maintained by National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. This is a fact.
Robert Cook
Yes you should, unless you want to risk being raided and having all your electronic shit taken and searched.
Andrew Russell
Prove it. Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Joshua Morgan
>Are all computers under surveillance? never heard of windows 10 ?
Angel King
...
Jaxon Russell
Stated on this page. microsoft.com/en-us/photodna Are you going to tell me Microsoft solved a much more difficult feature-based image recognition problem instead of simply breaking the image up and hashing each chunk like they claim?
Logan Nelson
"Databases of known illegal images" is not a source nor does it prove your claim.
All you have proven is that there is a service that could do this assuming they had a running databases of all "illegal images" hashed with their algorithm.
Jaxson Brown
> >distributors and producers of child porn usually do the following: one scenario is, that they team up with blackhats and rent their botnets. joe everydays computer is, unknown to him, thanks to a trojan part of one of this botnets. they just store the illegal files on his hard drive, fire up an ftp and that's the part joe everyday hangs himself in jail because he was distributing cp.
it is. so many people don't care about their own cybersecurity, not updating their machines, refuse to install any basic firewall or antivirus. they basically offering free hosting for criminals and not long ago police didn't care if you had anything to do with the cp on your machine. it was on your machine, end of story. that's why so many "everyday fathers" ended up killing themselves before or after they have been convicted. they lost everything.
Gabriel Murphy
Again this isn't a source. I can pull up articles about how Kasich wants to build a high speed rail from Columbus to Chicago, but that doesn't mean said train exists.
David Stewart
you know what, fuck off. we're not here to cure your inability to research for yourself while you dismiss any bit we give you.
Nolan Diaz
>Guys! Every major website in the world does implausible thing! >No they don't. Prove it. >Fuck off retard I don't have to prove anything to you you're wrong!
Adam Mitchell
>ICMEC manages and supports Project Vic. It is an image and video hash-sharing initiative that streamlines investigative workflows and narrows the focus of law enforcement investigations by filtering the material investigators find on offenders’ computers.[71][72][73][74] Using robust hash sets, Project Vic technology allows law enforcement to determine which images retrieved have already been identified, and are part of the Project's database of millions of digital hashes of child porn, enabling detectives to focus on those that are new children waiting to be located and recovered.
Okay. Now prove that every major cloud storage provider and image host like you claimed uses photoDNA or compares against that database.
Ethan Garcia
No.
Mason Lewis
Then you're wrong and your claim is bullshit.
Gabriel Price
>Believing these ridiculous claims FUD, not a proper source.
Colton Adams
wiki-user here. i didn't claim that, but you wouldn't believe us anyways.
Sebastian Parker
It's all bullshit desu The database if hashes is likely abandoned by now because it's retarded and photodna didn't really work either. It's just a scare tactic
Anthony Wood
prove me wrong.
Robert Phillips
>I didn't claim that Yes you did. >The government... NCMEC maintains a database of confirmed cp file hashes. Cloud storage, webmail, and social networking sites have an agreement...
Asher Murphy
>Yes you did. no, that was another user. i just quoted wikipedia here. stop being paranoid.
Josiah Jones
so, can you stop this autism now?
Juan Walker
Will you provide a source for your claims or admit that they are unsubstantiated bullshit?
Julian Lewis
A friend of mine got instabanned for posting nudes of his gf on Sup Forums just recently, the file was flagged. Definitely not bullshit.
Aiden Ortiz
My mom is a janitor I can confirm this
Aiden Smith
Not him but if Microsoft is already doing it with PhotoDNA, isn't it safe to assume that other service providers are doing a similar thing? Seeing as they could face legal issues if they didn't.
Nathaniel Nelson
i provided you with a source about this project, not with the claims someone else did. on their official site - icmec.org/project-VIC/ - they say
>Project VIC is a collaborative effort between ICMEC, law enforcement and industry.
and if you're not an complete idiot, you will know who "the industry" is. and yes, i'm aware you will reject this again because i don't have google's ceo on the phone right now confirming it.
Kevin Anderson
No they wouldnt. Why waste millions on some algorithm thatd just nail your own users. They dont give a fuck about little jids. Theyll just go by someone manually reporting pedoshit and at best will ban the hash of that file which doesnt matter because its easy as fuck to change that and that shit is uploaded by the archive anyway so it wouldn't even effect the image. Image hosts dont do anything more than hashes of banned files too, same as Sup Forums, but it'd cripple those sites if they used something like photodna
Mason Rogers
>“Any tool that decreases the amount of child sexual abuse material circulating on the Internet is welcomed by INTERPOL. We encourage everyone hosting material online to use this technology to ensure their services are not being exploited to distribute appalling videos of child abuse.” said Michael Moran, the Head of INTERPOL’s Human Trafficking and Child Exploitation Unit.
>Project VIC partners have identified many of the worst videos and images of child sexual abuse and exploitation, and with today’s donation, can now successfully create a data library by “reference” fingerprinting a large collection of videos. In addition, online service providers, such as social networks, video sharing sites, and cloud hosting services, will be able to automatically read the F1 fingerprints, rather than visually screening for child pornography, and stop it from running on their services.
The problem of child pornography has become epidemic, magnified by the use of smart phones by predators which allows them to produce hundreds of short videos of abuse material in a format that allows them to be easily distributed. This donation by Friend MTS will help ICMEC construct an ecosystem of law enforcement agencies and electronic service providers that can all recognize, and identify the same videos because they are using a common fingerprint.
I'm hunting down some posts in the archives, though I'm fairly sure he didn't post the actual reason of the ban anywhere... Yep, no details of the ban in the archives, understandably. Only people asking why he was banned.