Because the industry is a bunch of troglodytes that aren't interested in using better tools or improving their products, keeping with the times or generally anything else that can be considered progressive and smart.
The IT industry is the worst example of how IT should be.
Dylan Edwards
Define "few". Many apps support it fine, even in Android. >No support in iOS Stick to your proprietary AAC bullshit. Opus is too good for your non-free platform.
Nolan Sanders
>Why are open source codecs such failures at serving the mass market? Because autismos only want flac and normies only know mp3
Opus works on my 2013 moto g, blame Apple for being cunts.
Aaron James
>Opus isn't even being widely deployed
How would you even know? Whatsapp uses it and it's one of the most used applications in the world.
Christian Collins
>Whatsapp uses it and it's one of the most used applications in the world. Pretty much every VoIP anything out there uses Opus nowadays, only a few apps from MPEG-LA members are sticking to LC-AAC Vorbis is open source and is arguably the most widely used audio codec thanks to Spotify
Brayden Moore
>Pretty much every VoIP anything out there uses Opus nowadays
Wrong. Signal doesn't. Most VOIP apps don't
Evan Gutierrez
It'll just be flac with mp3 fallback
Jacob Gray
Open source audio is winning the market with FLAC, not with vorbis/opus.
Gabriel Scott
() Nah, bro. If all the normies using shit means it's good, then that makes windows good.
Michael Adams
What's wrong with vorbis again?
Cameron Martinez
The Marlinfaggot abandoned app doesn't support Opus? wew lad who would had thought Nowadays nothing, Opus just beats it in everything while being low latency Vorbis has too much algorithmic latency for real time usage
Kayden Moore
>Nowadays nothing, except for the fact that it has no 44.1khz support?
Ian Miller
Vorbis has better VBR than opus, giving smaller filesizes and has 44.1KHz support. opus is mostly constrained to CBR even with its VBR mode
Opus isn't intended for music anyway, it's intended for voice and streaming
Evan James
>Vorbis is over Said who? OGG is supported by everything worth using.
Colton Lee
I just learned that Apple products don't support vorbis.
Is this a joke?
Carson Davis
what the fuck is vorbis
Brayden Long
>Vorbis has better VBR than opus, giving smaller filesizes
I know what you're trying to say, but what matters is file size for a given quality, and Opus is generally better.
But Vorbis has better gapless support and 44.1k, so it's not unreasonable to use it for music.
Justin Flores
>Apple products
Carson Rodriguez
I don't get it, what was he trying to say? How can very vorbis produce "smaller files" if its not as efficient as opus?
Landon Clark
you probably know it as ogg, noob
Kayden Taylor
Opus or ogg? Can anyone give an example of opus with mono 24-32kbps?
Henry Bell
>Why are open source audio codecs such failures at serving the mass market? Because normies don't give a fuck about audio quality. They just download MP3s from YouTube. They wouldn't use anything else because they don't know anything else.
Juan Phillips
teamspeak, discord, etc all use opus
Dylan Miller
wtf mp3 is free faggot. and nobody cares about a 10% filesize saving.
Dominic Morales
>mp3 is free Not free as in freedom >nobody cares about a 10% filesize saving It's much, much more than just 10%
Hudson Martin
>Not free as in freedom yes it is.
oh you mean you live in retarded jurisdiction where it isnt? not my problem.
>It's much, much more than just 10% 12% o wow.
Anthony Rivera
It's often more than 50% smaller
Ethan Johnson
>All my music is .mp3 >lol wtf even is an opus My music is all opus. Why is mp3 so shit?
Lincoln Miller
3MB or 6MB, i dont care. compatibility is much more important to me.
Liam Price
You faggots think they still use mp3? Its all aac now, plus using flac since it's just wasted bandwidth
Dominic Harris
is aac patent encumbered? outside of the us as well?
Aaron Richardson
>i dont care Okay. I don't care that you don't care. New formats make a difference.
Liam Kelly
>New formats make a difference. mp3 is battlehardened and well supported. you choose a niche fine, nobody cares.
Ryder King
>I live in the past New, more efficient formats like AAC are also already well supported.
Christopher Young
I don't know, pretty much most websites use it
Camden Anderson
>New, more efficient formats like AAC are also already well supported. sure, dont mind that one.
but releases are all mp3 or flac, because nobody cares about other formats.
Connor Myers
This, mp3 is obsolete bloated legacy shit.
>muh compatibility It stopped being an argument in 2015
Isaiah Sanders
>It stopped being an argument in 2015
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Brayden Campbell
You can get aac anywhere
Levi Rogers
44.1kHz is deprecated.
Its was only brought into use because of Audio Cd's
Zachary Davis
what
Even a rockboxed player from 2009 runs opus
Ryder Butler
You are a fucking retard, do you not know anything about sampling rates?
44.1khz reaches the limit of human hearing
Jackson White
Ease of use and compatibility > Muh efficiency
If Tyrone can't play his nigging music on his new dope phone because it no longer supports MP3 he go to be mad and tell all his homies not to buy it. Transcode? Wat da fuck is dat? I ain't using no transvestite fone senpai.
Ayden Lewis
im sure that mp3 will never die. its just too popular to die.
Henry Murphy
Do you not know how about cutoff filters you mong?
Jace Morgan
I have been using AAC for all of my audio files for a long time. Is there a real reason why I should not and what do you recommend instead. Seems to work pretty much on every device I have.
What for speech? What for recorded radio programs? What for music ripped from a CD?
Grayson Martin
Are you an autistic neckbeard that cares about MUH FREEDOM?
If not, then no
AAC does not have a cutoff filter
Christian Sanchez
If compatibiltiy is not a huge issue, try Opus. Other than that AAC is a good mix of compatibility and efficiency. Use AAC if you use your audio files on multiple devices.
Kevin Foster
Give me one reason not to use FLAC for music files.
Poorfags with no storage need not apply
Chase Brooks
Do you carry a bottle of sugar pills wherever you go?
Jaxson Phillips
Placebo
John Brooks
Yeah, it does, and Opus has a cutoff at 20KHz at all bitrates.
Speech: Opus is a lot better Music: Opus at low bitrates isn't harsh like the other codecs, some songs in AAC sound muffled at 128kbps, Opus doesn't have that problem.
To save space when you put music in a device that isn't your desktop PC.
Matthew Nguyen
GNU/NEETS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Kayden Long
>flac is gonna die guise
Caleb Anderson
>To save space when you put music on a device that isn't your desktop PC
Thats when you convert to lossy, FLAC is good for archiving.
Blake Anderson
If you could choose whether to listen to the original source media or a compressed and digitally altered version of it, which would you pick?
File size does not matter in 2016. Compression is only useful for streaming media.
Ryan Nguyen
You know what's better for archiving? AAC. No conversion to lossy required since you're already there.
Asher Perez
>The year is 202X, mp3 is on it's final legs, due to the commercial onslaught of SooperOPUS, AAC is just a distant memory of the past, and the last device to use it is in the useum of Outmoded Technology
>Somewhere an user converts lossy to lossy, and it kills him a bit inside.
Jonathan Collins
A song that benefits from a higher bitrate will get a smaller file with Vorbis than Opus, especially if the song has quiet parts that would be better compressed with a better VBR implementation.
even the japs (pic related) realised that they can get better compression for free with Vorbis
Jose Smith
>removing support for all old formats in only one decade from now
good post desu senpai
Noah Murphy
2020-2030 will be the final shift to lossless and the replacement of lossy, with the availability of 8TB phones, 50TB hard drives. Thanks to FLAC, we can see open formats rule audio.
Aaron Cooper
>buy PS3 game >50GB disc >lossy audio
God damn it, even PS2 games had lossless audio.
Jeremiah Wilson
Sure, like nothing can play MPEG2 and AC3 anymore.
Tyler Murphy
It could be that they just copied the vita game's copyright crap while actually including lossless on the disc. But yeah they probably didn't...
Christian Clark
Converting to lossless audio before lossless video would be retarded. Any bitrate spent on placebo audio when there's still real quality gains to be made elsewhere is a complete and utter waste.
Gabriel Scott
Not since the 2020 election when the first robot-communist gets sworn into office, and declares proprietary software illegal
Aiden Richardson
ITT: anons who are too poor to afford proper HDD storages for flac files
Luke Allen
>tfw I live in Venezuela and people can't afford 2TB HDDs, new PCs or phones over $100
end of support for old technology is going to kill us
fucking americans use big-ass files like the one in this post without giving a shit about how much space he wasted and how much quality he lost by converting it to gif instead of a webm
Mason Rodriguez
Because you can't license something open source with intention to make money off it.
Samuel Torres
What bitrate is good for transcoding my music to opus for streaming? 128kbps or 96kbps?
Gavin Mitchell
Most streams for any format don't go under 128kbps or over 128kbps. Heads it's 128kbps, tails it's 96kbps.
Mason Gray
If your network can handle it, 128k. There's a decent perceivable quality improvement.
FLAC uses less CPU to decode than mp3, ogg, opus, anything you can name. It doesn't even need hardware decoding. I encode FLAC for my phone to save battery life.
Anthony Murphy
No idea, but it's true.
Reading storage uses battery too.
James Nelson
I know a radio that's broadcasting FLAC. chiru.no:8081/stream.flac It plays in Firefox and Edge even
Oliver Bailey
>saving 0.4% over the course of an entire battery cycle not turning your screen on one second for an entire cycle saves you more battery
Wyatt Scott
>0.4 not this shit again
Christian Rivera
This is just for personal listening so either bitrate is fine on my network. If I go with 96kbps, then file sizes can be nearly 25% smaller which will help with my mobile data cap. Guess I'll just test both out.
Levi Gonzalez
mp3 will never die
Wyatt Jackson
Mp3 won't die before every lossy codec is dead and replaced by FLAC.