>mozilla adds FLAC support decades after chrome does it >THIS IS THE FUTURE OF HIGH QUALITY AUDIO
Unless you can pass an ABX test (tell the difference) between 320kbps MP3, 192kbps Opus and lossless, post the log here, and you upload the files files that you tested (the FLAC, MP3 and Opus files) you're full of shit.
More importantly: What do you think that happened when VP9 was introduced? Did they raise the quality by keeping the same bitrate, or did they lower the bitrate to keep the same quality?
What is with you MP3 shills? Are you proud of inconsistency in sound?
You don't use FLAC for audio quality alone, you use it because you know for a fucking fact it sounds 100% like intended.
Lets see your .log for your MP3 rips that ensure 100% accuracy in rips.
Tyler Kelly
even Internet Explorer has FLAC support
Connor Cox
Is there anyone out there that listens to music in a goddamn web browser and gives a shit about that?
Joshua Butler
Just ripped 200+ songs from YouTube onto mp3. Can't tell much difference between it and Spotify Premium's version.
Have a torrented 320 kbps mp3 to compare one song with. It's slightly better. That's all.
Will carry on enjoying my music now to the detriment of audiophile society. kthxtc
Mason Hernandez
>mp3 lmao fucking luddites
Opus master race
Levi Murphy
>Just ripped 200+ songs from YouTube onto mp3 You're not very bright.
Sebastian Wood
Doesn't sound very free
Henry Phillips
What else does one do for 200+ individual artists worth of songs?
William Williams
You know, you could just have left them in the opus/aac file that they came in.
Aaron Peterson
Grab format 22 if >128kbps. Otherwise 251.
Landon Wilson
AAC-HE 80 KBit/s is pretty epic.
Sounds like 128 to 160 KBit/s MP3, which is still shit, but if you need to compress lots of music for some shitty bluetooth speaker garden party it's good enough.
Because 80 KBit/s is extremely smol.
However, MP3 master race. MP3 is the vinyl of the digital music world. Everything supports MP3, it's like FAT32. Even toasters can read it.
Joshua Smith
Tsk, you can make playlist and use youtube-dl to dl it
Adrian Nguyen
>caring so much that you train yourself to hear the difference between formats I use opus
Adrian Cox
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I don't want to run a line for each video. Have made a playlist and used a playlist downloader site out of desperation (long train journey tomorrow).
Is there a smarter alternative that I can run to rip all of it, perhaps from a playlist?
Jaxson Wood
>Tsk, you can make playlist and use youtube-dl to dl it
literally youtube-dl [URL Playlist] and eventually --extract-audio --audio-format
Benjamin Evans
>Unless you can pass an ABX test (tell the difference) between 320kbps MP3, 192kbps Opus and lossless, post the log here, and you upload the files files that you tested (the FLAC, MP3 and Opus files) you're full of shit.
I use FLAC because it is archival quality and I never have to worry about whether the fag who made the mp3s ripped from his original disc or converted a 320k rip to 192k Opus. Having FLAC means I have the original disc, as far as music quality goes.
I can also convert it to V2 VBR for my portables, and save a lot of space and get great quality. Can't do that with 320kbps mp3 or 192k Opus - it would either take twice as much space, twice as bad sound output (lossy transcoded to lossy), or wouldn't be able to play (Opus has fuck all hardware support).
I don't give a fuck about ABX testing.
Jonathan Ward
-i
Chase Robinson
What do you use to listen to music?
Logan Nelson
Thank you. It's very kind of you. I'll try not to be as noobish on this matter again.
Grayson Cruz
>3.72MB for a short video with shit quality
what the actual fuck
Aiden Edwards
I ripped 20 CDs to FLAC files just this afternoon. I honestly don't know why people are aroused by lossy formats. I'm not poor, then I can afford a decent amount of storage for keeping flac files and not having to worry about lack of storage anyways.
Camden Bell
>192kbps opus why
128 vbr opus is more than enough
Dylan Murphy
I can't tell the difference between Lossless, MP3 v0, or vorbis q6.0 (192kbps), yet I have almost exclusively flaces. It is because I use v0 and ogg everywhere but my computer, which is my main storage centre. Is it only so that in the future, when better codecs will get created, I can start using it then.
Lincoln Barnes
>192 kbps Opus don't have much faith do you?
I want to see an ABX between 96 kbps Opus and FLAC. It's possible, but I want to know if Sup Forums is capable of it.
Angel Moore
everyone knows theres no audible difference between 320K mp3 and lossless, even on fairly good audio equipment I still prefer FLAC if I can find it, since I've plenty space, but 320 mp3 is totally acceptable if its what I can find. Anything under 320K MP3 though, even the mid 200s, god no.
Justin Bailey
It's really easy once you do a few tests and start understanding what every codec is weak on: high frequency sounds. Opus cuts shit off the 12.5-15.5KHz range and makes the 15.5-20KHz range inaccurate for some songs at that bitrate (easy to hear in an ABX test, but everything still sounds good, I use this bitrate for music on my phone)
This guy can hear the difference between Opus at high bitrates and lossless in one sample: hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,112572/topicseen.html though I can't hear it myself even at 144kbps, which is the highest bitrate where I've passed ABX tests.
Cameron White
>flac browser support for what reason?
Hudson Long
I don't see the point in fighting mainstream FLAC support, it already has more hardware support than other open formats like ogg. Firefox having support just means you can upload flac files to mixtape.moe, share them and link them around. FLAC should be a first class citizen just like MP3 is.
Aiden Edwards
>4MB for a shit quality 3 second gif what the fuck is wrong with you
Nolan Harris
source
Jaxon Sanders
FLAC is fucking stupid for general use
it only makes sense in production and remastering
proponents tout it as 'lossless' but you are already dealing with a digitization of the true audio wave form: you already lost. For that reason it's equally good in terms of sound compared it a high quality lossy compressed audio file... and it's far far worse in terms of file size.
Therefore nobody should be using FLAC in the browser for your ping sound effect when you get a message or something like that. It's wasteful.
Benjamin Wood
how does it feel to be deaf?
Nathan Brooks
how does it feel to have downs syndrome?
Owen Hall
Also AAC, but mostly this
Jack James
litterally iqdb
Anthony Flores
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Mason Miller
see: steganography see: cheese pizza
Jace Diaz
The important thing is FLAC's next step in replacing MP3 as the dominant normie format. They don't have or require 10k libraries in their phones, nor do they have remorse over watching a cat video on youtube in 1080p. The time for perfect audio is now.
Jayden Roberts
I used to not care about audio quality that much. Ripped all my music from YouTube.
Then I got a used car, and the original owner upgraded it's audio to a Bose system. Holy shit did it make the YouTube rips sound like shit. I updated all my music (took months) to 320 mp3 and it sounds amazing.
Point is, if it sounds the same, it's because your speakers or headphones just aren't good enough. It's not autism or audiophilia.
Nolan Walker
>The important thing is FLAC's next step in replacing MP3 as the dominant normie format no it's not
Gabriel Bell
This whole pointless argument is akin to going into the Louvre with colored sunglasses on, walking around looking at Picasso, Monet, Van Gogh, Michelangelo... and thinking, yeah, good stuff. You're just not opening your brain to what's there.
Maybe the difference between flac and mp3 320 is noticeable to anyone with a sound system designed for a concert.
Xavier Johnson
FLAC is fucking stupid for general use
it only makes sense in production and remastering
proponents tout it as 'lossless' but you are already dealing with a digitization of the true audio wave form: you already lost. For that reason it's equally good in terms of sound compared it a high quality lossy compressed audio file... and it's far far worse in terms of file size.
Therefore nobody should be using FLAC in the browser for your ping sound effect when you get a message or something like that. It's wasteful.
Ryder Cox
I've yet to met someone who can pass a double blind ABX test
Anthony Jones
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Ian Bailey
Anime is called Kanokon. One of my favourites.
Thomas Wilson
>a digitization of the true audio wave form: you already lost
Not really. You're getting 100% of what the microphone picked up. A microphone is an instrument too.
Dominic Rodriguez
ty
Camden Flores
stop reposting retard
Ryder Bailey
I want to shag that wolf.
Jack Harris
>You're getting 100% of what the microphone picked up oh really? where do you get your stupid masters from? kys familia
Luke Garcia
use webms instead of gifs do it for her
Aaron Torres
Nozomu Ezomori She is best grill fyi
Jonathan Bennett
Digitally mastered?
Kayden Foster
I want her to mark her territory by pissing on my face while Chizuru gives me paizuri.
Eli Brooks
shit, you're right. I am converting all my audio files to FLAC now.
Mason Jackson
meant studio masters it was a typo you're not getting everything the mic picked up is my point
Alexander Morris
MP3 VBR is fine. CBR 320 is shit: low performance, large file size, too lossy.
Justin Morris
This is now a xebec appreciation thread
Eli Murphy
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Anthony Lopez
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Andrew Carter
nigger do you really have to spam this shit in every thread
Adam Parker
Literally different people
Cooper Cooper
I wonder when they'll stop referring to 320kbit as --insane
Cameron Hill
More sample data isn't necessarily more quality, but compression is always compression. I'd rather have 44.1KHz flac than 192KHz opus
Daniel Brooks
Never, because LAME is dead
Jeremiah Powell
>192KHz Opus retard alert
Cameron Sanchez
LAME 3.100 will be released. Y-you'll see.
Daniel Jackson
I use FLAC because I like to put Moon Man over some of the songs in my library and reupload so they can hear in the original quality without twice-encoding. It really gives a song a certain kkkick when used properly.
Leo Long
There is a place and time for FLAC and a place and time for anime. The place and time for FLAC is now and the place and time for anime is now.
I don't really care about web browser support for FLAC. I store my stuff in FLAC because hard drive space is cheap, and it's a kind of future proofing. What if I get better ears installed some day?
Mason Morales
They still wouldn't hear a difference with your craphones
Nathan Cox
This My car stereo can use wav and mp3 but not flac Even stranger is that it has some convoluted thing where you can play music through USB from a ifone
Asher Martinez
Remember when OGG was the future?
Good times.
Juan Sullivan
VP9 maxes out AMD's Puma+ cores too, whats your point?
Jayden Bell
AAC is good but OPUS is flat out superior to every mainstream lossy codec there is, especially in low bitrate situations.
James Brown
The entire point of lossless compressed formats is that you can have a master file to convert to any other format for whatever the need. Instead of, for example, converting lossy 320k mp3 to lossy (format of choice), losing more quality in the process.
It's kind of comparable to using .png instead of resaving a .jpg a thousand times, but the degradation is much stronger.
Chase Ross
320CBR is if you want a high shelf of quality retention, but in normal circumstances there was a cutoff in 19.5kHz (not sure if you're using LAME). That's the tradeoff for filesize.
In VBR (particularly V0, but again, OP isn't privy on details, you get less file size and more range but less quality throughout.
CAPTCHA: keck 4200
Justin Rogers
I'm a few minutes away from converting my ~20000 FLAC files to Vorbis q6 for my phone, am I doing the wrong thing?
Adrian Adams
Opus 128kbps vbr
David Foster
>needing to transcode That's why you use lossy. There's no reason to transcode since you're already lossy.
Carson Rodriguez
I'm not sure why people don't understand the idea of wanting to preserve and hear the original data 1:1. It's very simple if you stop dragging in all this unrelated emotional shit in that has little to do with the actual logical framework at work.
Either has packed data Sup Forums doesn't detect, or has been poorly compressed. Look at it in a hex editor and run it through gifsicle to see which. It's not uncommon to be able to improve the compression of a poorly encoded gif by 40-50%.
Ethan Gray
>not better than vorbis when bitrate is 128 or higher >larger files for music with quiet places than vorbis >no 44khz support Seriously tho, why opus?
Sebastian Carter
AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUTIIIIIIIIISSSSMMMMMMMM
Anthony Ward
Vorbis is better for music, esp.for bitrates higher than 128, whereas opus has artifacts noticeable in high quality record
>CBR 320 is shit: low performance, large file size, too lossy. >too lossy I'm sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense. 320kbps is the highest possible bitrate supported by MP3. V0, the highest possible vbr setting, will peak at 320kbps. 320cbr is constant 320kbps. By definition, it is less lossy than vbr.
That said, there is absolutely no reason to use 320cbr over V0 (or V2, really), because V0 is transparent at a smaller file size. You won't be able to ABX test V0 vs source any better than 320 vs source.