/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
ktgee.net/tpg

xsauc buyers guide:
dankpads.com

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
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Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
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Other urls found in this thread:

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T420 master race

is it better than t430 ?
if I have x220 i5, will there be any upgrade (more than the bigger screen ?)

also, can I use my x220 ssd and ram on t420 ?

I really need bigger screen for the work I am doing, but I wonder if its going ot be AT LEAST this good if I switch to t420

I need a cheap as fuck (

>also, can I use my x220 ssd and ram on t420 ?
yes there are both ddr3 (ram) and sata (hard drive)
IMO I like the t430 better because it's keyboard feels better to type on, and it is FAR faster (gpu wise) than the t420.
beat up x201, or maybe get one without ram then throw in your own.
Don't bother with anything older than a core i.

T60 Checking in.

Found it at a Goodwill and it was only ~$20 and I put in an SSD I had laying around. Arguably the best laptop I have ever used in terms of quality and speed. I installed Funtoo on it and absolutely love it.

>pic related, my screenfetch

How's the screen since it's an old CCFL backlit is it showing real signs of backlight dulling?

Also does it have issues with SQUEALING when you have the backlight either up too high or too low?

thanks
so im on ebay now, should I get t420 i7 or t430 i5 3320m at 2.6 ghz ?

my concern is, my x220 gets up to 80 C watching HD videos (720p) it never lags or anything, but it does suffer from trivial stuff like that, it gets the work done, however I need more screen space.

so final dilemma:
>T420 i7
or
>T430 i5

>1024x768
you are like a little baby

watch me

80c is perfectly fine
since the t420's i7 will only be a dual core you are far better off getting a t430 with an i5.

T430 is better in the GPU area but keep in mind the T420 still plays 10bit 1080p chinese cartoons flawlessly.
The T430 layout is shit imo but it's fixable by replacing it with a T420 keyboard and flashing firmware.

I'd go for the t420.

Haven't had any issues with either, the backlight is pretty bright and haven't had any issues with squealing. Only real downfall is the speakers on my HTC One M8 are louder and sound kinda better than this. Which isn't the end of the world. The screen resolution I was pleasantly surprised by. Although 1024x768 isn't ideal it is still completely functional and in some ways better than 16:9 (i.e for reading or word processing)

Thanks for replying bud I've been debating on buying one as a shitpost machine and it seems like it might be a good idea since those are my only real worries

I'd suggest looking at local Thrift stores in your area if possible. I could use this as a genuine work machine until my Xeon E3 1230v5 arrives for my desktop. For only $20 I couldn't be happier

First for comfy X220

You really need to move taskbar to the side.
Vertical space is vital.

> i7 x220

Enjoy the house fire.

Naw dude, taskbar on the side it awful.
>implying the X220's fans cannot keep up.

> x220 fan

Enjoy the leaf blower

Well you do have a point there, it actually sounds like a leaf blower when the CPU is at full load.

I thought the problem was that the taskbar is up.
Put it down

Has anyone ever played Final Fantasy XI. The first MMO by square enix?

I want to play that on a thinkpad. I hear it runs on netbooks. But I definitely want a laptop with a great keyboard, since that game was all about using the keyboard.

What would you recommend for me? say 1k budget? or cheaper.

W520

Does it need a numpad? The W700 and W701 are the only respectable non-ancient Thinkpads to have one. Price/performance suffers, but it should still be well within your budget, and these workstation models should be more than sufficiently specced to handle an old MMO. You could probably even get yourself a W700ds within $1000 and become an instant /tpg/ deity.

For 1k you can get a refurbished with maxed out specs and a 3 year warranty.

why the fuck would you spend 1 grand on a 5 year old laptop?
you could get a maxed out really good condition w530 for less than that.
and that would perform FAR better.

yes numpad is critical for the game. thank you for reminding me

ah interesting

yeah I'm not sure about the price my man, i just want to play alone somewhere

sounds cool :0 hows the battery life on these things? It is an old mmo, but they have addons and shit, I play fairly hardcore, i imagine it puts stress on the cpu if i do more things with it. However yes, still an old MMO, the only thing I read is that good GPU is not required because of it's old engine.

I was thinking about EU prices, you definitely won't get a maxed out W530 with great warranty for less than 1k€ where I live.
The W520 goes maxed out for >200€ less at my vendor, which drops the price to less than 1k€.

>hows the battery life on these things?
I don't own one so I can't testify to it personally, but it's probably not great. They're 17" behemoths with quadcore CPUs and high-end dedicated GPUs, and they're old. I wouldn't expect much more than a couple hours even out of a good 9cell.

>warranty
Found the problem
stop looking at refurbished computers. it's a god awful waste of money, and if the laptop has already lasted 4 or 5 years then it's not going to die any time soon

What's the best model for running OpenBSD? Preferably one that I can easily remove the wireless card, camera, and microphone.

Is the x1 yoga with OLED worth it?

>oled
no
Maybe in the year of ipv6, linux, and hl3's launch. But not now when power consumption is still too high.

>Preferably one that I can easily remove the wireless card, camera, and microphone
why not just get a desktop?

Just got a x230 i5 for $100 US, kys fagboys.

x301
every thread until you like it

an* x230

>x301
No connection for dock
Can't even call it a thinkpad
Nice guns, though

>wide viewing angle
Enjoy prison, pedo

Cool guns though

m1a is warped
take better care of your shit retard

>buy T410
>want T60 instead
>buy T60
>want T410 instead

Save me from this hell

buy both

I don't understand, you had to sell the T* to afford the T*? user, get a job.

build T601F

That'd be ideal
Rural Kentucky and my employer shut down. JUST

Lol, stfu nigger.

I can't even say anything mean to you. That sucks. Vote Trump

It would be painful to look at bottom side taskbar on a laptop.

Yeah, ports on the back are comfy for stationary use, but you can't *grab it by the battery* like any onther Thinkpad.

>*grab it by the battery*
I thought this was a meme but turned out to be pretty handy, thanks Rossmann for teaching me Thinkpad battery holding skills.

It was the only way to hold t-series in tablet mode and was quite common among other manufacturers of that era too.

Looking at new T460s to replace my aging Vaio. I've heard they changed the keyboard layout on the newer think pads - can anyone attest to the quality?

Been working on getting this running today. Had to install from floppy, took forever.

Windows 95, working TCP/IP and an ethernet card for folder sharing with my Win10 PC.

I need to get a battery, and should probably use a CF card instead of the ancient HDD, but soon enough I'll be able to out-hipster the normies at Starbucks.

>no trackpad
I want it

>Enjoy the leaf blower
The ultimate weapon against canucks

Sounds unsafe as fuck, the battery isnt held on by some metal railing or anything, its plastic hooks

is repasting worth it? it's a x220 i7-2640m

Probably, but if you bought it refurbished it's likely repasted already.

So how to tell if the optical drive in T420 is busted or the connection is acting up?

>Used ratiomaster on IPT
>Got flagged
>Want proof of upload speed

mothers fujitsu craptop is dying, what kind of thinkpad is good as stationary facebook/email machine? T61?

I'm also dyslexic

I want to get an IPS screen for my new x220.
I know I should be getting LP125WH2(SL)(B3) or
LP125WH2(SL)(T1).
Can anyone recommend a trusted cheap seller?

I thought you guys would know about these laptops goodwill has for sale any ideas on the specs or anything the brand is Howard and i found the company but not the laptop they have no model numbers

I can get a w700ds for 200 euros, is it worth it or just a meme?

Might be able to get thinkpads from work for £50 each.

They're asking for the money to "secure wipe" and retain their 240gb ssd intact rather than shredding them.

Used. Probably 2-3 years old.
No specs aside from vague 'i7 cpu' and '4+GB ram'

Im planning on asking for 3.

Y/N?

source?

Should get an x60? I am only concerned with muh freedumbs.

best place to buy following laptops
TP X60/X60s
TP X60 Tablet
TP T60
TP X200
TP R400
TP T400
TP T500
Macbook 1,1
Macbook 1,2
Asus chromebook C201

He wants to steal your laptop.

Where do you guys buy refurbished thinkpad's from? The shilling here does not align with the awful reviews found on amazon etc from people who bought refurbed TPGs

That's fine, wouldn't really have a purpose for it anyway. I just like collecting semi-rare hardware, like this SUR40 I have sitting behind me.

maximum comfy

How hard was it user? I have been thinking about wrapping my T420 like that for a few months.

Should I update the BIOS of the T420 from 1.37 to the latest?

Most changes fix the SMM vuln

looks cute user :3

Can it run Doom?

bought an x230 two months ago, the screen is IPS and is supposed to be new.

today i noticed it has a fucking image burnt in, ghost image whatever, i have a dark wallpaper and i can slightly see chrome bar with my bookmarks on top.

i dont use my laptop a lot and that surprised me.
is it common? have i got chinked with some subpar screen?

i took it apart, sanded and cleaned every part, then painted with white spray. As easy as disassembly as reassembly goes, but painting takes some time

X60s reporting in

Yes or get an X60s/x61s

is it burned in even after restarting the computer?

Ebay

this happened to my 32 inch ips monitor. I was playing a game and paused on a flickering image. Came back ~ 1 hr later and it had burnt into the screen and stayed there for a couple of hours.

I'm actually thinking of buying a thinkpad... but i have had two lenovos in the past two years and both have failed spectaculary. The Y510p i got for my dad shorted when the copper heat pipe melted and mine(Y-70) has had screws falling out of it, and the wifi card, hard drive, both memory sticks and screen have failed within a year of purchase. Im concerned how much better the QC is on the thinkpad beacause the Y series has been hot garbage.

ghosted image, the earliest versions of ips pannels had that feature. it's really only noticable against a darkish gray backgrounds

Aight guys, I need a cheap ThinkPad to write essays for SJW professors, study moonrunes, watch HD chinese moving images and maybe play some Age of Empires II online or maybe LoL my chink friend.
>inb4 LoL is shit
I know, it's just to socialise, cause I'm trying to get into the group for that sweet chink pussy juice.

Considering that I'm a Yuroppor, and a wog at that, and the market here is super shit:

1) Would an i5 X220 be good? Any suggestions? Budget is max 300€, but less is better.
2) Are things like this shit deals?
>ebay.it/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Notebook-Intel-Core-i5-2x-2-5GHz-4-GB-RAM-320-GB-HDD-DVD-RW-/361775985159?hash=item543b877207:g:KI8AAOSwZJBYBg2f

Thank you in advance.

I found a t420 for about $160, has a i5 2520, 8g of ram, and a 500g ssd
>ssd
That's the part that really scares me, can some user help?

It stands for Solid State Drive and can be used in placed of a HDD (Hard Disk Drive).
They are generally faster than HDDs, and also quieter due to less moving parts.

I was asking if you think this is bs, I know what an ssd is, it's the fact that it is hard to imagine a person selling a laptop with a big ssd in it.

>500g SSD in a machine already costs 160$

I got a 128GB Intel 530 SSD with my W520. Completely unused from what I could tell, besides to install the OS. I also got a 256GB Kingston V100 SSD with my X201s, and it died after a couple months of light usage. SSDs in used laptops are ultimately a gamble, but at $160 for a machine as well-equipped as that, you wouldn't be getting a bad deal even if it had no drive at all.

thanks user

Anything similar to the x130e is that isn't a hawk of shit? Pref < $100, $150 tops.

turned it off for an hour, it disappeared, got spooked hard though.

is it always like this? non-permanent, disappearing after a while?
i dont have this laptop for a long time, i use it mostly for programming/matlab/internet when im away from home. today is the first time i noticed it.

where are you buying it from? if its too good to be true like you think all you have to do is read the description and if its not like in the description when you get it return it, no reputable distributor would accept false advertisement, plus you have like one month to test it out. you know? since laws and shit?

>steal
Nope. It's just that the last time a saw a W700DS on ebay it went for like 1.5k or something, so I didn't believe him and wanted to see some proof.

the i7-2670QM is the strongest cpu for t420 laptops right? im going to upgrade the laptop really soon and just wanted to know.

The description says it is a ssd but when you look for it with the filter, it's on the list of unknown storages