What does Sup Forums think of Telegram?

What does Sup Forums think of Telegram?

inb4
>Sup Forums
>messaging
>having friends to talk to

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github.com/DrKLO/Telegram
twitter.com/telegram/status/591679556140015616?lang=en&lang=en
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)
telegram.org/blog/gif-revolution
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i like the design alot and nice features.
doesnt matter tho cuz i cant convince normie friends to make the switch

It's garbage, the only good thing is custom stickers but furries just make porn out of them. Its mediocre app at most

This. It's only useful for nerds to wank each other off over encrypted chat

>android
>closed source
>botnet

I only have three friends on there, one RL and two furfags. They all keep spamming me with bad dragon or meme stickers.

The application is open source: github.com/DrKLO/Telegram

Don't think their server backend is though.

As far as proprietary code goes though, I think I'd take tovarish Durov over lots of other things.

>tovarish Durov
He's not a tovarish anymore, the russians kicked him out after he denied the FSB phone numbers of terrorists' accounts on VK.
Now he works in Germany where he got the investment capital for Telegram, the servers are probably botnetted to hell by the german federal police knowing their track record.

Why not Signal?

I use threema and signal.

I like it but most of my friends use whatsapp anyways so I dont get to use it as much

Wired cans is my choice of freedom

>telegram
>not signal

Lurk moar

>Germany spies more than Russia
Well spoken, Comrad!

>spy on your own president for the NSA
>not worse than russia
kys

Does it support voice calls? Is there anything open source that does?

Tox IM

It's good, but no custom themes

Better than WhatsApp, at least.

>thinking you're stuck a special snowflake you need to hide from the evil gubbament
Every chat app is inferior to Facebook messenger. What's app is second. iMessage is third.

What's the best messenger app?

Nobody here will admit it but iMessage.

Its not secure at all, proven to be shit for months now.

Who was it, WhatsApp that introduced (or at least spread) the cancer of rendering your messages inside speech balloons? It takes stupid amounts of space for a risible readability improvement you'd get anyways if you just alternated background colours when different users post. It really makes me nervous.

Because if you want to sell your shit to the masses, aesthetics come before practicality.

That's literally GUI-designing 101. Make it look pretty first, make it practical later.

The old way looks like hot garbage.

Email with 4096-bit encryption.

Telegram failed my review, but Pavel Durov refused to fix it.

Don't use it.

its my main messaging app and it is excellent, takes a shit on all other messengers

Telegram is free software under GPL3

Enjoy that hard dependency on Google Botnet Services

>having friends

I use it to transfer unimportant files, notes or links between my devices

They rolled their own encryption and it has not been audited, nor is it open source. So don't trust it

I like it, though I literally only have 3 contacts as it was supposedly used by terrorists who did the Paris/Brussels attacks, scaring my normie friends away.

whats wrong with whatsapp?

i wish it had voice calling, devs have made it but dont enable it.

twitter.com/telegram/status/591679556140015616?lang=en&lang=en

it's a app used by furries for sharing gay animal porn. literally.

Not a fan, I've only got it because I've got a hipster friend who won't use anything else.

I use it a lot as I convinced quite a few friends to switch when Facebook bought WhatsApp. The features and some bots are useful but the security is a mess. They promised a lot and did nothing. WhatsApp have end to end encryption now, so I guess I'll gradually switch back as most friends use both anyway

Its fucking awesome if you're a homosexual animal person.

It's the best goddamn instant messaging app on the market right now.
>Instant messages
>File transfer
>Syncs instantly across my PC/Macbook/iPad/iPhone
>Beautiful UI
>[spoiler]Bane sticker pack[/spoiler]
It's fucking great, I'm glad it's the norm form of communication in my university.

We switched over to Telegram at work because slack tries to jew you out of money. It is alright, could use some improvements but for the most part I can't complain. The ability to search for something years/thousands of messages ago is nice.

What can you do with it?

Can I use it instead of facebook messenger? I've been dying to get that out of my life.

It's like LINE/Whatsapp, but way fucking better. It was built from the ground up to run on PC, Tablets, Android, iOS, basically everything. It syncs instantly from one platform to another, plus it's extremely fast and intuitive. It's great for work since you can send files over. I love it.

wtf is wrong with that thumb

is this shit even legal?

Qute good.
>you can setup self destructing messages after being read
>Custom stickers
>Crypto
>You can setup /bots for images and gifs
>Games on chat
>Multiple voice notes are reproduce one after the other, whch is pretty cool, whatsapp can't into that

I like it because it doesn't treat desktop operating systems as an afterthought or second-class citizen. Signal, etc make this bizarre assumption that I'll only ever want to message from my phone which is stupid – if I'm sitting at my desktop or laptop you can bet your ass I'm going to want to just alt-tab to a chat app and type out messages with a real physical keyboard.

Signal has the desktop chromium "app" but it's bloated web tech bullshit that does a janky phone sync thing, and worse, it doesn't work with the iOS Signal client. Compare this to Telegram, which has a real native Mac app that isn't fucking useless when not linked up with my phone.

Sad but true

THIS

I don't even try to convince people to use Telegram, I use it to talk to my wife and that's enough for me. Being able to use it on both my phone and laptop is essential.
Also, I find the login system pretty elegant.

I used Telegram for a while for talking about anime. I like it because of the Stickers and sync'ing on multiple devices.

I like Discord more because of the VOIP and better organization of groups/chats.

Shame I can't get my tech-retarded friends off of Kik, so I guess I'm stuck having both Kik and Discord on my phone.

>$CURRENT_YEAR
>not using signal

Why, senpai?

Shit for privacy, which is what it's advertised for.
Good whatsapp alternative if you hate facebook that much. Runs on pretty much everything, transfer files easily, can message myself, simple UI.

My friends are all paranoids fucks, so it's the only thing we use to talk. Stickers and bots are nice.

How can something that wants your mobile number (even if you can fake it), has weak password retrieval mechanism through sms, has unaudited encryption algorythm and proprietary server, be called "Secure" and "Private"?
Are you fucking braindead morons, neo-Sup Forums?

This. I was using the FOSS version of signal then it just stopped working. Checked the github discussion about why apparently Moxie had gotten so buttfrustrated about it everyone involved just stopped working on it.

why wouldn't it be?

I convinced my 4 normie best friends and brother to use telegram, the gifs (specially the porno ones, those are the KEY), file sharing and great pc version, won them over.

All i had to do was install it on their phones and show them it was similar to use to whatsapp but better. that's all we use now. and they use it with their girlfriends too.

ISIS love it

Drug dealers in my country got caught over telegram messages. Just saying

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)
Android specific

>Signal's official Android client requires the proprietary Google Play Services because the app is dependent on Google's GCM push messaging framework.[46] As of March 2015, Signal's message delivery has been done by Open Whisper Systems themselves and the client relies on GCM only for a wakeup event.[47]

>In May 2016, Signal's lead developer Moxie Marlinspike requested that LibreSignal, a fork that had removed the GCM dependency, not use the Signal servers or the Signal name.[48] As a result, on 24 May 2016 the project README stated the project was "abandoned".[49]


why is moxie pissed that someone de-google the software? hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

yes but GIF native? and not trancoded to mp4 or webm ?

WTF is this some stookolms syndrome?

ppl are so accostumed and mostly fine with "the government" taping phone lines for the greater good that they would think that taking measures to be private should be immoral, unethical or illegal

Native GIF, not like WA which turns it into .mp4 and can't be longer than 7 seconds.

Double-jointed, user

>normie friends
Why do normalfags say this shit

This

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It's full of autists, paedophiles and muslims.
It's cancer.

>paedophiles and muslims
Huh, why'd you repeat yourself there?

Its used by sand niggers, the crypto is complete utter shit, the icon looks like a paper airplane made out of wadded up tissues used to cum in and the name makes me vomit on my own dick.

3 / 5 stars at best IMO.

But they used unencrypted SMS.

dumb Sup Forumsay

Comfiest balance between full of features, secure and diffusion.
Maybe not the best at the last two, but still the best compromise.

Converted all my friends which converted all their friends and now pretty much everyone I care about is on it

Same

it's pretty shit but it's a gratis nonfree service that i use for status notifications.

the app doesn't drain battery that much, and unlike email, actually syncs and notifies consistently.

Would be great if it were actually secure.

>Comfiest balance between full of features, secure and diffusion.

If Telegram got voice calling, everybody would switch to it from Whatsapp.

It's shit security wise, but I use it because it has got some nice features and is still better than WhatsApp.

Is there any non-botnet video call app? I wish telegram had it, only apps I know of are that Google one, Skype, and snapchat

It's great. Great features, good UI, excellent platform support. I also made all my friends and family use it, got rid of WhatsCuck at the same time.

It might not be as safe as something like Signal or OTR, but at least it's got the option for secret chats. And the company is not US-based, which is a huge plus.

earlier today some expert at the public radio was saying that the only secure messaging app atm is Signal

You're wrong, Telegram DOES re-encode GIFs. To mpeg4, that is. Why would you even want them as native GIFs?

telegram.org/blog/gif-revolution

special snowflake syndrome

Signal has a Desktop version. Requires you to have installed the phone version first though. You can get the Desktop version via a Chrome addon.

Who cares if explosive sand niggers love it? They also love food and oxygen.

That said, Telegram's custom crypto is crap and the service doesn't have E2E crypto by default. I don't even know if there's a Windows version of Telegram that supports E2E encryption. Not that it's all that great consisting the, y'know, shit custom crypto protocol.

NSA plz go.

Agitprop shills and ignorant people who shills have fooled.

- Homegrown crypto (MTProto)
- Needs phone number
- Unencrypted by default
- Their servers store group chat in plaintext
- If you don't enable 2-Step Verification, your entire chat history can be obtained by abusing SS7 to redirect the SMS with the code (already happened in some countries)

WhatsApp is shit too, and Signal sucks because it's centralized and depends on Google.

The only real options for a mobile private messenger is Conversations, a XMPP client with OMEMO support. OMEMO is based on the Signal protocol (formerly known as Axolotl and itself based on OTR, another XMPP encryption protocol), but supports end-to-end encryption for group messaging. You can get if for free on F-Droid. But be aware that it's not normie friendly, there isn't any option for that currently.

>has got some nice features and is still better than WhatsApp.

>balance between full of features, secure and diffusion.
how so?

doesnt whastapp have the same number of fetures plus voice?
what am i missing

i sure love telegram using a free protocol, federated IIRC, so you can use other clients in other hardware

but whats secure about it? wouldnt even matter if the server software was foss, its always faith in whoever is running a server, or in this case, telegram only central server for now,

ofc pre shared crypto is safe even in hostile servers

i dont get why TELEGRAM doesn't fucking wipe out WhatsCrapp, it has a DESKTOP version!

That itself should make it 100% superior

Sup Forums telegram group where??

op, since you're spamming all these IM threads, let me do so too:

If there was an foss app with the level of polish as say telegram, with multiprotocol support to make it actually useful, is that what Sup Forums basically wants?

Ie single client supporting tg,fbm,wa,snapc maybe twitterdm to stay in contact with normies?

The biggest problem is that this is basically possible only on rooted phones (to spoof original app sign keys for GCM and receive push not in doze). Just asking if this is worth the effort, provided that it is some sort of nerd holy grail.

>SS7
It's less known, but sending sms works for majority of "end to end" encrypted IMs (wa,tg,snapc) at the very least.

Also, 2fa will not prevent sms hijack with telegram.

>what am i missing
First of all, capitalization.

Then:
Most important thing: standalone webclient/desktop client.
Whatsapp requires the phone to be on and connected, telegram does not.

Syncing drafts between devices.

File sharing of ANY kind, not just supported formats, and the filesize is more lenient.

Telegram add some functions like "reply" and "forward" before whatsapp did.

Better groups management, bigger size, admin functions are clear.
(e.g. if the creator drops out, it's no russian roulette to see who's gonna be the next admin).

Formatting options to send blocks of code like you can do here

Silly stickers and bots, which, admittedly died after a while because they didn't do anything really useful.

It's superior to whatsapp in every way except voice calling, which is a pretty useless thing today considering that every plan offers some amounts of free calls.

There have alreay been some.
They were full of weebs and furries and memespouting idiots.
Never again.
Fucking never again.

Telegram is great

It's great how blatant shilling can sinkhole idiots. I wish half of retards on rizon moved to tg or facebook instead.

Meh i like wire better

>- Homegrown crypto (MTProto)
ah yeah i forgot about that. it's not even proven.

Fuck off faggot. Telegram has great features and is secure. Much better than literally any other app.

Shit son, I just accidentally opened that dudes VK profile an hour ago when trying to get around the new profile-blocking code they added.
Did it with ease.

I find it funny there was a thread on Telegram when I come here.

Good ol profile id1

luckily ive been collecting gifs for 25 years

for many of them a VHS or mpeg2 dvd was the source, and now normies are inadvertedly converting to mpeg4 with some poor android algorithm designe d for speed, blurrying the shit out of them

how can humanity live on if funny clips keep being re encoded with different codecs, at some point a nerd in the year of allah 129423 wont be able to see a chimp sticking a finger up his anus, sniffing and falling of a tree, fuck they wont even know what a chimp is.