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youtu.be/aMli33ornEU
yahozna.dyndns.org/projects/perqemu/index.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo
macintoshgarden.org/apps/gomac-202
youtube.com/watch?v=s2mGEHjJjLI&t=46s
macintoshgarden.org/apps/gomac-15v1
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun
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Got any pics of them working? The Apple II clones.

can you shitpost on those?
I recently tried good ol Netscape just because
It displayed the site, but I remember I couldn't post

>keep picking up old computer hardware
>no fucking use for it
>don't know anyone that can use it
What the fuck am I going to do with all these floppies

Can't enter captcha, the site was surprisingly well browsable on my Quadra with Netscape.

giv pls

Mail them to me

I've got diskettes from years ago that contain porn so I wanna search for more BBS animu tiddies

netscape doesn't work with the javascript-free captcha and a midsize thread with images will totally max out your memory even if you don't have anything running

but that's with a mostly stock loadout (170 MB hard disk and 20 MB of RAM), with the memory maxed out and OS 8/later Sys 7 allowing for newer browsers you probably could actually, though slowly, they're still remarkably usable systems for their age

t. actual owner of that setup

Play old games in it, from time to time it gives me curiousity see how they ran in original hardware. Most footage is from modern PCs running in steam or dosbox or some shit.

I could post on a Pentium II if using a modern-enough but lightweight browser - still, crunching the captcha Javascript took it a literal minute or so. Older systems are not useful at all to browse today's script-heavy web.

That's why I love lightweight webpages even on modern machines.

buy this beatiful creature from my friend, IBM intellistation M Pro(only PS inside), at last I have case to build dual 604(tyan tiger 7505) necrostation, it gona be cool.

Kek, I have the same machine under my desk, just laying there.
No use for it tho. I salvaged some parts already.

>170MB disk
>20MB RAM
Those were the days.
I've still got my Centris 610 around here somewhere, 250MB disk and 24MB RAM (cost me a hell of a lot, couple thousand dollars if I recall).

I've used a Pentium I with Windows 2000 on the web before - fun times.
PowerPC G3 / G4 / G5 should be able to browse fine, but lack of interest from anyone, meaning Firefox 3 is the newest you can run, which can't do jack shit. It's just Netscape with a different icon at that point, even Internet Explorer for Mac is better.

I demand more pictures of that kot on the pillow

>PowerPC G3 / G4 / G5 should be able to browse fine, but lack of interest from anyone, meaning Firefox 3 is the newest you can run, which can't do jack shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TenFourFox

The ThinkPad on the bottom, is that an X41 / X60?

Can I get the model number for your battery? Mine's missing it.

For 10.4.11 Tiger?

>For 10.4.11 Tiger?
Yes, we where talking about Firefox, so OS X not Classic?

nice, give it some love some time, a 610 with a real '040 makes a great candidate as an A/UX box too

>PowerPC G3 / G4 / G5 should be able to browse fine, but lack of interest from anyone, meaning Firefox 3 is the newest you can run, which can't do jack shit.
you can actually use classilla with those, TFF like that other user posted is also an option but ridiculously slow on pre-DDR systems

old FF versions aren't all that bad though, just turn JS off, I regularly shitpost and wiki surf from FF2 just fine personally

The cat in the background seems only mildly amused.

He/she seems out of focus if you ask me

Ah. I'd upgrade to 10.5.8, but I can't find ISOs or discs for a decent price.

FF3 won't open Captcha or in some cases let me click "Post Reply" either.

The 610 works fine last I recall - I had an LCII at one point as well, and a Performa 475, but the 475's hard disk died, then it's video adapter gave up the magic smoke (literally, it smelled like burning plastic before I threw it away. Took power supply, RAM, and diskette drives out first, of course!). The LCII doesn't start up anymore, so I put the hard disk into the Centris 610 as a secondary drive. It's only 80MB, though.

If I can find my ADB mouse some time, I'll use it, there's a bunch of games (and porn) I'd like to get off of there one day, but my old mouse broke and I'm too cheap to buy a new one.

>Ah. I'd upgrade to 10.5.8, but I can't find ISOs or discs for a decent price.
What machine are we talking about? Tiger is perfectly fine (and lot faster) for the older ones.

>The 610 works fine last I recall
Nowadays it's easy and cheap as fuck to upgrade and hack these machines to great heights.

>FF3 won't open Captcha or in some cases let me click "Post Reply" either.
yeah, it doesn't support a lot of Sup Forums's JS-reliant features, I just turn it off, this site functions pretty well without javascript except you have to manually copy/paste post numbers to quote which really isn't that big a deal, I'm gonna waste a lot more time trying to articulate and propagate my shit opinion anyway

>If I can find my ADB mouse some time, I'll use it, there's a bunch of games (and porn) I'd like to get off of there one day, but my old mouse broke and I'm too cheap to buy a new one.
neato man, I know the feeling all too well, hope you find it

PowerMac G5 with dual 2GHz G5s and 2.5GB RAM, it should all add up now.

The 610 actually is a great machine for that - especially if you have the expansion riser. You can even put a custom ROM in if you want to, since that's in a slot instead of a socket.

I'd put more RAM in, but the 128MB of SIMM72s I've got are currently in an IBM PC340 Pentium I system whose graphics card has seemingly failed, maybe system board even.

It makes no post beeps at all, I'm kinda worried since it was the first Windows computer I ever bought, so it holds a lot of sentimental value to me. It didn't start with 128MB of course, just 16MB, maybe 32MB, I don't remember.

>PowerMac G5 with dual 2GHz G5s and 2.5GB RAM, it should all add up now.
Definitely go for Leopard then, better multi core support also.

>It makes no post beeps at all, I'm kinda worried since it was the first Windows computer I ever bought
That fucking sucks, I guess it's time to take it fully apart and start figuring out what's wrong.
Hope you get it working again one day.

I figured out how to do most of the work with the keyboard, so I can open / close folders, look around, etc., but since it's a Macintosh, it pretty much has to have a mouse to be useful at all.

I found the massive (for the time) collection of ~100MB of GIFs and PNGs from various BBSes over time, but I can't open any of the files since my image viewer has to be opened by itself, then open the file from the file menu. It doesn't use Control+O for open, so I'm not sure whats going on there.

Guess I'll have to look out for a mouse, though.

it funny, this monster PS and mount holes for cooler plate is something.

here it is.

I have both, but all of them is tablets, who exactly battery code you need?

Awesome cat, the ears looks like plastic that has suffered heat damage though

What's that board? Some Z80 or 8080 clone?

Could you point me in the direction of some good Leopard ISOs? I'd have installed it to start with, but I couldn't find any ISOs at the time.

It's been taken apart multiple times, but I can't find any documentation online and the original manuals and such are probably in my attic being eaten by bugs as we type. It might be the CMOS battery (It was never replaced, that damn CR2032 must have lasted 20 years!), since I know some computers have issues if their batteries die.

X60, since that's what I have. Looking up the phrase "ThinkPad X60 battery" doesn't really yeild any useful results.
Six cell if that's a thing that exists.

>Guess I'll have to look out for a mouse, though.
JewBay would be the best bet right now, they ain't that expensive, 20 bucks usually.
Don't hold out too long though, in a few years I bet they will be even harder to find.

>better multi core support also.
not him but could you elaborate? always shilled for tiger on G5s because of autism, classic mode support and some stuff I've read regarding performance differences between the two

kind of want some excuses to go leopard on my dualcore G5 though

yeah, that's a little weird, don't know if I could offer much advice with keyboard navigating on those things unfortunately, probably one of my biggest pet peeves with that platform

>Could you point me in the direction of some good Leopard ISOs? I'd have installed it to start with, but I couldn't find any ISOs at the time.

pastebin.com/m4PkyHSL

>you can actually use classilla with those, TFF like that other user posted is also an option but ridiculously slow on pre-DDR systems

One of these days I swear I'm going to dig into a modern web engine and try to figure out why the web is absolute shit on hardware that should be able to handle it just fine. Quadras and PowerPC's managed page layout for the entire publishing industry...PostScript + high resolution graphics...but they can't handle a fucking web page???

>inb4 scripts

Yes, 20MB of JavaScript makes modern sites shit even on quad core i7's. But sites without all that shit are still sluggish as fuck on old hardware. It just doesn't make sense.

>tfw no vector crt
youtu.be/aMli33ornEU

>not him but could you elaborate?
The system was more optimized for several cores, Apple also was on Dual Core Intel already at the time.
Newer drivers, etc, squeezing out actually more performance than Tiger on a workload.

>kind of want some excuses to go leopard on my dualcore G5 though
Dualboot

Love that case.

>but they can't handle a fucking web page???
jewscript

nobody bothers anymore, it's easier to waste resources because modern computers have plenty of it

chill

Don't worry user, if you make a browser we'll download it.

Thanks! I can use this to upgrade from 10.4.11, instead of just a reinstall, though?

The keyboard is shitty enough, why'd they have to make it so hard to use it? I don't really need Classic Mode since I've got a G4 on Mac OS 9.0.4 anyways.

I'll see if I can find my old one first, though.

Vector tiddies
Do you think anyone ever did something similar on the Alto / Star?

>Thanks! I can use this to upgrade from 10.4.11, instead of just a reinstall, though?
It's a retail image, so yeah, probably without even writing a disc, just extract it or mount on the Mac and install it from there.

>Do you think anyone ever did something similar on the Alto / Star?
They had those machines to fuck around with, I bet.

this is such a breed.

soviet PC xt clone Пoиcк 1\Poisk 1

hmm, ebay give me much results for x60 battery, but ok, 93P5032.

>nobody bothers anymore, it's easier to waste resources because modern computers have plenty of it

This makes me sad. There are apps that run faster on my G5+HDD then on my MacBook Pro + SSD (MS Office is a big one).

Some of the even older apps running in the classic layer are instantaneous for every operation.

If modern coders were efficient what would computing be like?

>But sites without all that shit are still sluggish as fuck on old hardware. It just doesn't make sense.
Probably also all those high res JPGs and PNGs

Sweet, it's starting itself up right now so I'll let you know how it goes!

It's completely useless nowadays, but I really want an Alto or something to emulate it's look and feel (Kinda like the Retron, but more in the style of the original) since I always really liked the vertical display.>If modern coders were efficient what would computing be like?
Fast and with less complaining. What would it be like if programmers just let us use old versions of the program?

>If modern coders were efficient what would computing be like?
Like Magic

>What would it be like if programmers just let us use old versions of the program?

For programs like Office it's not even any point between the versions from the 90's and the new ones, both get the same shit done.
But the latter ones hog resources. Fuck logic.

>Probably also all those high res JPGs and PNGs

Files of comparable size to web images don't seem to slow down Quark, PageMaker, or the last PPC version of Photoshop.

This comment makes me wonder:
>ridiculously slow on pre-DDR systems

How many times is the CPU going over the same data when rendering a web page that memory bandwidth has such an impact?

True.
Posting this from a PII-300mhz laptop with 256MB ram with Win98SE+Kernelex and Opera 12.02.
Legacy captcha took minutes to load but it might be caused by the 10mbit only ethernet adapter.
Also 12mb of physical ram are free.

/thread

Office '97 is the version I use, but sometimes I need newer things (Publisher), so I've got Office 2007 enterprise for that.

Images were the Mac's foray, they had a video capture card and high-res picture / video editing in the early to mid 1990s as well

>pre-DDR
PC66 was the slow one, but PC100 / PC133 were fine.

Screenshot? Maybe of CPU-Z?

even if you aren't using it you're still running a full-blown language interpreter and a myriad of other supporting features combing through everything that loads, it adds up, modern browsers have a ton of shit in them

but I get you, funny and sad as hell watching hardware that can edit live broadcasts in real-time struggle to shitpost on an imageboard with javascript off

sounds excellent then
I think most of the performance points about leopard are only really relevant on G4 and older systems anyway

nah, images are generally nothing unless we're talking pre-PMMX gear (roughly) with tiny RAM compliments

>Images were the Mac's foray, they had a video capture card and high-res picture / video editing in the early to mid 1990s as well
Even viewing PDFs on a 68k Macintosh is great.

Why isn't there a PC equivalent of TenFourFox (i.e. a browser that works at a usable speed on older Windows versions and hardware?)

>nah, images are generally nothing unless we're talking pre-PMMX gear (roughly) with tiny RAM compliments
I was talking about the 68k

>It's completely useless nowadays, but I really want an Alto or something to emulate it's look and feel (Kinda like the Retron, but more in the style of the original) since I always really liked the vertical display.
probably not really what you meant but there is a working emulator for the Alto-derived PERQ workstations if you just want to play around with those early GUI design paradigms:

yahozna.dyndns.org/projects/perqemu/index.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo

then yeah, images will really fuck you over unless you've totally maxed out the RAM, I couldn't even handle a moderately active thread

according to their site it only runs on Windows with Cygwin, doubt it would play well with older time machine versions on legacy boxes

you got my hopes up too

>but I get you, funny and sad as hell watching hardware that can edit live broadcasts in real-time struggle to shitpost on an imageboard with javascript off
Video Toaster? Nah, we need a Web Toaster now.

>I think most of the performance points about leopard are only really relevant on G4 and older systems anyway
They are for the most part

>nah, images are generally nothing unless we're talking pre-PMMX gear (roughly) with tiny RAM compliments
Unless you have a shitty graphics card you won't notice most of the time either.

>tfw still can't do that on a Core Duo without serious lag

Because Firefox and Opera still work correctly with all the needed functionality on old Windows. Plus, there are hacks to get new applications to run in Windows 9x now, as well.

To be honest, I'd rather have an accurate physical experience than in software. I'd rather have the bigass noisy beige steel box with a huge Diablo disk drive and a vertical monitor, I want the soap box mouse with three arbitrarily named buttons on it that requires a special mousepad to work (okay maybe not that), but I'd just rather have a big clunky thing than a small little box that runs it correctly.

If you ask me, old hardware is not about running the games or the software, it's about experiencing a part of history. I know there are things like SALTO now that do an excellent job of emulating the software of these old computers, but I'd rather have a big quirky box to goof off with.

It's like having an old car, it's more fun to repair it and see it work than it is to get it working from the factory.

...

>Taskbar
Where did you find this and how can I write it to a diskette for Mac OS 8 / 9.0.4

>Firefox and Opera still work correctly with all the needed functionality on old Windows
Not newer versions. Firefox requires at least Vista now, and Opera XP. Both also require SSE2 instructions which were first introduced on the Pentium 4. And even if you find an old enough version, like hell it will work well. Also you can't install extensions in older versions, so you have to deal with gookmoot's malicious ads.

>according to their site it only runs on Windows with Cygwin, doubt it would play well with older time machine versions on legacy boxes
No, there's a native Win32 version. Also check D+.

macintoshgarden.org/apps/gomac-202

Don't have networking or a CD drive?
Writing Mac floppies on a PC is problematic.

Try a normal 1.44MB DOS formatted floppy.
SuperFloppy drives should read it fine.

Firefox 10.0.02ESR for Windows 2000 - Still handles Google Docs and Sup Forums just fine for me. YouTube even works if you install Flash.

Hell, even old versions of Opera can perform decently on Pentium II systems - here's a video I took with my 3DS (Didn't have phone at the time) of YouTube running on a 233MHz Pentium II with 128MB or so of RAM:
youtube.com/watch?v=s2mGEHjJjLI&t=46s
Video was taken a few days after preordered DS's came in - Thought I'd test the camcorder in it.

No networking, can't get it to work on Mac OS 9 (How do I TCP/IP please help), but I've got a 4x (I think) CD-ROM drive and a USB DVD-ROM drive if needed.

How would I write Apple ][ / Macintosh diskettes? I remember doing it in the days of Windows 2000 / early XP, but I can't find the laptop I remember doing it on and the Desktop I had at the time experienced an unfortunate hard disk failure.

>How do I TCP/IP please help
Set it to DHCP

>that voice

>Unless you have a shitty graphics card you won't notice most of the time either.
that's cool, kind of pulled that one out of my ass since I usually only web surf on PIIs and later, tried it on a P75 with 8MB once and that obviously wasn't a good experience, but of course that's a problem with the RAM

>To be honest, I'd rather have an accurate physical experience than in software.
damn straight senpai, I figured that's what you meant but it was also a good excuse to post that anyway, emulators can be fun sometimes too, though this one definitely doesn't capture the physical experience as well as others

probably this macintoshgarden.org/apps/gomac-15v1

if your system's running OS 8/9 it sounds reasonable to assume it would have onboard ethernet, get that shit set up and get it straight from the source, diskettes are annoying as shit to deal with desu

definitely taking a look at that when I get home then

DHCP doesn't really work reliably on old stuff in my experience, he's better off just running an ipconfig /all and getting network setup information that way, it's surprisingly easy on old Mac OS

>DHCP doesn't really work reliably on old stuff in my experience, he's better off just running an ipconfig /all and getting network setup information that way, it's surprisingly easy on old Mac OS
I never bothered and it always just connects right away after and gets an IP after I open Netscape.

Took me a while, as any version of Windows is incredibly unresponsive when it runs out of physical memory. Had to restart opera as it failed to render anything and download BMP2PNG.
Newest version of CPU-Z for 98 had tiny font, so i used this instead.

Once upon a time I managed to post from this. It was painful.

might just be a windows thing then, I just got so used to it from fucking around when I started out on 9x equipment that I just do it out of habit on everything nowadays

I never realized how young the shitty mic made me sound before, or how much of a lisp it makes me sound like I have... This is why I stick to my phone.

(Correction to the video - it was 16MB of video memory, ATi 3D Rage Pro Turbo AGP)

I don't have that option, what do? It's connected via ethernet, and it's got it's dial up line connected as well, but even that won't connect

I thought the format was different? It's not like I'm gonna be using 400k / 800k diskettes, but still.

I noticed, what the hell is wrong with that mic?

70ns or 60ns RAM?

The PowerMac G4 doesn't even have a diskette drive I'm pretty sure - but it seems like all the ways it can connect to the internet are dead. No DHCP option and Dial up doesn't connect.

Is HWiNFO still a thing?
That's pretty empty looking though.
Mismatched memory much?

Seems like it's a laptop since NeoMagic MagicMedia256 and all, the Gateway Solo 3300 / 3350 (favorite laptops of all time by far since they're tiny little Pentium IIIs and everything, only surpassed by the OQO series in my book) have that (Not the 3350, that has ATi 3D Rage Mobility, which is much better.)

Hey, it's Windows 2000, everything is painful. I had a Win2k system once that would crash explorer if you right clicked or opened the right click menu in a folder or on the desktop.

>Hey, it's Windows 2000, everything is painful. I had a Win2k system once that would crash explorer if you right clicked or opened the right click menu in a folder or on the desktop.
You mean ME*
Win2k was awesome

>I don't have that option, what do? It's connected via ethernet, and it's got it's dial up line connected as well, but even that won't connect
You don't even have TCP/IP in Control Panel?
You might be missing some extensions then, check Disabled Extensions or it's time for a fresh install.

>70ns or 60ns RAM?
really not sure, but probably 70ns, it's buried in my garage landfill now
>The PowerMac G4 doesn't even have a diskette drive I'm pretty sure - but it seems like all the ways it can connect to the internet are dead. No DHCP option and Dial up doesn't connect.
try setting it up manually from the control panel, run an ipconfig /all on a windows box and get the subnet mask, gateway, DNS servers and the like and then assign it an IP, just increment a little bit from whatever the box you got the info off of had, you probably won't have a collision unless you've got a lot of things on the network

if it's that new it sounds like it wouldn't be wrong of me to assume you've got a zip drive or USB ports, you can just use a flash drive

>what the hell is wrong with that mic?
I think it is not the mic, but rather the videographer.
>Hey, it's Windows 2000, everything is painful.
There's no better OS for that machine. 9x and PPro don't mix well. NT 4.0 is a dumbed down 95 for all I care.

ME was okay - if you had decent drivers for it.
2K was much better with the hacks they have for it to run modern software now, but it was garbage by itself. A worthy opponent, but a bad performer nonetheless.

I have TCP/IP, but I don't have a DCHP option. I've got a Dial-Up option, but it won't connect via the internal modem (It doesn't ever detect a carrier tone and the receiving modem just gives up after a moment or two).

Should have tried forcing the non-javascript captcha trippy user.

>ME was okay - if you had decent drivers for it.
That was ME's central problem. It supported both NT and 9x style drivers, and if you mix the types it causes instability. But if you can get all of one type (preferably 9x) it'll work as if it were 98 third edition.

Go to TCP/IP control panel
Select connect via ethernet
Then select Configure: Use config from DHCP server

Make sure you have Open Transport extension enabled and that you have the cable inserted.
We are talking about a ethernet connection to a router, right?

Understandable
The PowerMac doesn't have any options except Dial-Up in TCP/IP, which will dial but the internal modem never detects the carrier tone of the modem on the other end and thus the connection never completes.

It's got an external SCSI Zip cassette drive, but I have no media for it. The USB drives might work, but it often can't supply enough power to run things.

bcak off im a reel person with a lot of money and jobs and i hace a degree in things u dont kno so ha i win

How many free RAM slots you got? If you could get it to 192MB or more, you could run XP fairly safely on that machine. Pentium Pro introduced the P6 architecture, it might as well be a Pentium II in a socket.

NT drivers seemed to work fine for me with 9x drivers, but that might have just been that I was running it on a Pentium III with the stock drivers it included (except audio and my capture card(!), which were NT and 98 drivers, respectively).

>There's no ethernet option
Just Dial-Up

Yes, connecting via ethernet from the internal network controller to a Netgear WNR2000v3 which is connected to the AT&T box in another room. CAT5 / RJ45 cables
>DCHP
DHCP*

>The PowerMac doesn't have any options except Dial-Up in TCP/IP, which will dial but the internal modem never detects the carrier tone of the modem on the other end and thus the connection never completes.
But you do have an ethernet port?

I'll be sure to if I can find it again.

Trying to look through old ass MSN chat logs.
I definitely remember sending it to a friend. (who also still browses here, but is muted on mumble because bath. Ryan, you faggot, stop jacking off in the bath)

I'm sure "my" was part of the URL.
But I can't find it by searching them. So there goes that hunch.

Shit dude. You reminded me about my old ass Vtech laptop.
I found my love for programming on that via BASIC.
Man, that was fucking 9 I got that.
Now 30 going on 58.
Time sure flies when you are mid-ancient..

I am not sure where I put that. I remember the screen cracked through a horrible accident that led to something hard being shot in the direction of it. RIP.
I should try replace the screen if I can find it.

The thing is maxed out - only four slots. Were EDO modules made in capacities higher than 32MB apiece? Perhaps it could use high-density shit.

>The thing is maxed out - only four slots. Were EDO modules made in capacities higher than 32MB apiece? Perhaps it could use high-density shit.
Up to 128MB

Yes, there's an onboard connector for RJ45. It's connected to my router with a cable thats probably shorter than 5 feet.

Oh shit, EDO? I thought you were using DIMMs, yeah in that case 2k would be your best bet. XP would run but probably not as well as 2k does right now.

XP will run well on a lot of things - Pentium MMX with 256MB RAM included - but a Pentium Pro and 128MB RAM doesn't seem likely to be one of them.

Also, where the hell can I get a cheap Socket 8 system? I've wanted one for the longest time but I can't seem to find any for a decent price anywhere!

>Yes, connecting via ethernet from the internal network controller to a Netgear WNR2000v3 which is connected to the AT&T box in another room. CAT5 / RJ45 cables
your system is missing some extensions (drivers) then or has them disabled, there must be an ethernet option otherwise

Where can I get them? I've got one of the two system restore discs here, but I can't find the other.

Find them or do a fresh install, get a ISO and burn it, it will work. Hold down C after powering the machine on.

>soviet PC xt clone Пoиcк 1\Poisk 1
I had a similar layout 8080 Russian clone

I know how to boot from CD - but I've only got the software restore disc for 9.0.2 - will that be enough to get it working?

Russia made some... interesting computers and components back in the Soviet days, that's for sure.

Hadn't seen your post before, but thanks! I found it right away. Maybe I was being stupid before, I don't know.

>The USB drives might work, but it often can't supply enough power to run things.
nah, they will just fine, just don't use the port on the keyboard

I just run an extension cable from the second back USB port on mine, works great when you cbf

PPro's aren't gonna be cheap - mobos especially are getting scarce and expensive. I got lucky and got mine for free. I don't know how easy it would be for you to do the same - perhaps try a Craigslist ad offering to "wipe and recycle" old computers. You'll probably get a bunch of pleb shit like P4's - but you never know when something rare will turn up - PPro's included.

Jesus christ
Decided to check out what Vtech has been up to.

How the fuck did we get to these shit-tops?
There doesn't seem to be a single decent one, all shitty games on screens smaller than god damn smartphone screens, aimed at toddlers.

I think the lowest I ran XP was 512MB.
It was actually pretty decent there, so I can assume 256 wouldn't be too bad as long as the processor was decent enough.
I had it on a 660MHz CPU, forgot the exact model.
All I remember was it ran much faster than the shitty Dells we had at school with Win2k.
Certainly not helped when I ran Blackhawk Downs Mapmaker on schedule for every computer on the last day of school.
lol Novell security.

I wish I was more in to preserving and collecting at the time.
A few of us helped the IT staff take out old computers to the bins.
I aided in the destruction of several pretty damn old computers. Monitors included. Oh god

Wasn't the only Ternary Computer a Russian build? Yeah, Setun from Moscow researchers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setun

Keyboard for my iBook arrived. Now all i need is a battery that actually holds charge.

>will that be enough to get it working?
Yeah!

Why not just buy a whole donor iBook? Thinks cost pennies today.

things*
I should go to sleep