So, it looks like network neutrality is completely toast:
> Eisenach described net neutrality as “an effort by one set of private interests to enrich itself by using the power of the state to obtain free services from another” in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2014.
Who else here is excited for paying $20 a month extra for the use of uncapped Bittorrent?
Fuck off you soros shill
Trump doesn't like net neutrality so I don't like net neutrality, sorry user.
Good.
Why are you here?
My post was a joke, user.
net neutrality is already dead, because of CDNs
I'm here to call you a retarded faggot, you retarded faggot.
>net neutrality in practical terms is supposed to be the ISP providing an unregulated internet connection without favouring any internet traffic
>Shills representing ISPs want to remove NN so they can eventually do stuff like pic related
Is that pretty much what is happening?
The social media in US is doing nothing for this?
When net neutrality became endangered in India, the whole social media was TRIGGERED.
It helped in keeping net neutrality
Good
No reason to let the government get more control over the internet.
Yea.
Not all regulation is bad regulation.
Datacaps, local monopolies, use tax money to create Internet infrastructure and give it away to a single company instead of letting any company use it and now removing net neurality.
You Americans sure like to fuck yourself over just to make your Internet more expensive and worse. I don't see the point
Good. We don't need any more government regulations interfering with the free market.
Yeah or else we end up like Sweden or Norway where Datacaps is pretty much impossible because customers have so much choice and all of them have to provide a better service than the state ISP. You just end up with 100/100 fiber for $10 per month without data caps. Scandinavia isn't even discussing net neutrality because people everywhere can choose a minimum of 40 companies because anyone can use the infrastructure that is paid by taxes. Not like America where only one company can use it.
aren't i glad to live here
Although the cable companies are getting fucking loaded I don't understand how they can think this will go on forever.
Do they just think people won't fucking hate them for forever if they pull this shit?
The cable company is now a significant factor in choosing a house and it will just become even more important to people.
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.
Jesus christ, do you corporate shills do it for free?
Because the free market has proven that it regulates itself just fine
Literally kys faggot
(you)
>>Do they just think people won't fucking hate them for forever if they pull this shit?
But people already do fucking hate them for forever
Muh free market fags have no reply. They would rather get fucked in the ass by these ISPs just to prove some arbitrary economic point.
Then why do we need so many laws then to stop people being cunts?
U MAD FAGET
From Finland and can confirm this. 100/40 in my campus area included in the rent.
Stop fucking crying. We won, you lost. Your stupid socialist legislation is going away now.
Reminder: AES is totally broken. You're gonna really enjoy it.
See
Shame. I should probably stay on campus for the rest of my life.
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The reason that there are so few ISPs is exactly because of government regulation preventing competition from popping up.
I live in the Czech Republic in a shithole near a forest. I have a choice of 4 ISPs and I have 20/20 for ~15usd. Data caps are not a thing here.
You "won" the right to higher prices, smaller data caps and now degraded service due to traffic prioritization. Face it cuck, ultimately you lost.
15usd is a month's wage in your third world shithole.
>baseless fearmongering
How much are they paying you?
US has the worst Internet of any 1st world country.
They're looking to improve that by making it the worst of any 3rd world country.
where I live the US and there's 1 ISP to "choose" from. they charge $35 for 6Mbps. I'll be pissed if they add data caps too.
I make that in an hour as a phathetic student. And why is a third-world isp better than any glorious US isp?
You can thank government regulations for that. It will only get worse with net neutrality being forced upon everyone.
Are you retarded? You are already going backwards in terms of data per $ so it isn't baseless at all.
That's because of retarded fucking net neutrality.
elaborate
Any regulation leads to a slippery slope that invites further meddling from the government.
Should there be regulation against murder or will that interfere with the free market process.
>one type of regulation is bad
>all regulation is bad
Are all americans this stupid?
If regulation against murder was done today, the prison lobbyists would add loopholes which make it legal for them to murder inmates, the cops would lobby for murder to be legal for them, and food companies would add loopholes making death by faulty products legal too.
Regulation isn't bad, but when the regulation is written by the very people you're trying to regulate (in this case the telecoms) the best approach is to do nothing.
Least until you can fix the system.
>killing people is the same as ISPs not being forced to treat your anime porn with the same priority as emergency broadcast announcements
Allowing lobbyist to have this much power. You do know those lobbyist are a creation of your far superior free market?
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.
Repeat after me:
Never
privatise
infrastructure.
>leads to a slippery slope that invites further meddling from the government.
I'd argue that datacaps is meddling on part of telecom companies and allowing them to get away with this is a slippery slope that invites further meddling.
If you don't like data caps then switch to another provider that doesn't have them. Oh wait, government regulation prevents anyone other than Comcast from operating in the area.
>being forced to treat your anime porn with the same priority as emergency broadcast announcements
That particular situation would be fine. You'll need regulation to make sure that stays as the only thing allowed however.
So we can all agree that in this shitty situation the US is currently in, regulating these monopolies is the next best thing if we can't get rid of the government monopolies due to lobbying.
That logic is pretty flawed. if people had the option of data caps or no datacaps, they'll ALWAYS choose no datacaps. And so datacaps would go away and wouldn't even be an option and would go away completely.
see
pic related.
Comcast already found how to get around net neutrality but killing it altogether would be their next step.
As it turns out if you cap all traffic at 1TB equally, it doesn't count.
And then you can make deals with content providers to not count their traffic, for a fee of course.
A lot of Americans think they themselves will thrive in a fully free market, because they don't realize just how much of a sociopath you need to be in order to be successful in such a setting. The people here aren't like that; they're pussies in comparison, already getting fucked relentlessly by the long dick of those who, by such a system, are better than them.
>Datacaps, local monopolies, use tax money to create Internet infrastructure and give it away to a single company
Trump wants to remove all of this more than NN m8
Source
Learn to read.
I've read the whole thread.
Is people really that retarded that they think it's the government fault if their ISP lobby to split areas so they have virtually the monopoly in each area?
Are burgers so afraid of anything "socialist" as if it was communism that they don't see how net neutrality and government trying to impose base standars is good for them?
I've read more than once saying it's government meddling fault if the ISP can do whatever they want. It's a fucking oximoron. ISPs can do whatever they want because there is no rule stopping them.
God fucking dammit what a bunch of retards.
Let's see how you feel when you have to pay $10 more a month to access Sup Forums and other websites not included in your internet package.
I use a vpn.
No you learn to comprehend what youve read.
No net neutrality so ISPs can just choke known vpn servers
>You do know those lobbyist are a creation of your far superior free market?
They are not, that's literally a contradiction of free market you massive commie retard
>if we can't get rid of the government monopolies due to lobbying.
But it can be done, Pence already purged the lobbyists from the transition team
>Austrian economics are american guise xD
>Comcast already found how to get around net neutrality but killing it altogether would be their next step.
Comcast literally wrote the current NN bill
>Is people really that retarded that they think it's the government fault if their ISP lobby to split areas so they have virtually the monopoly in each area?
The only reason the ISP lobby exists is due to the government serving their regulations
>Are burgers so afraid of anything "socialist" as if it was communism that they don't see how net neutrality and government trying to impose base standars is good for them?
How can you be sure that the same lobbied to death government won't be lobbied again in this regulations?
For fucks sake the current FCC chariman is Tom Wheeler, a literal Cable Hall of Fame inductee
Literally a big Telecom lapdog
>I've read more than once saying it's government meddling fault if the ISP can do whatever they want. It's a fucking oximoron. ISPs can do whatever they want because there is no rule stopping them.
They aren't doing whatever they want, only big ISP's can play because the government only lets them play, since big ISP's lobby the government to regulate small players out of the market
>God fucking dammit what a bunch of retards.
no u
>burger
You're american and you know it, yurop and Asian countries have much better internet since most of those governments aren't imposing ISP mandated regulations
Look at fucking Romania, literally a third word shithole running South Korea speeds nationwide
>I'm from leddit
You know there wasn't a NN bill before the current one?
>You know there wasn't a NN bill before the current one?
Cable companies also weren't afraid of losing subscribers before netflix and co., though.
Your shit country is ran by ISP cartels and you think you have net neutrality right now?
Kys yourself out of the plane of non-kys existence stupid millenial cuck fuck
>Being this massively uneducated about how the internet even works
>Because the free market has proven that it regulates itself just fine
yeah by crashing itself every 4-6 years LUL
government created the isp monopoly and lobby
>yuros save on internet (because their countries are densely populated cities)
>pay more for literally every other technology service or device
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I really hope you're trolling and not being this retarded unironically.
How would OPs picture even be possible?
Wouldn't you simply use a VPN or even a simple proxy in another non-retarded country?
The only way they could limit the speed is via IP/domain name, and that is easily circumvented.
Unless the default is SLOW TO EVERYTHING BUT THESE ALLOWED IPS. But then, who would even use that ISP? The first ISP to offer normal speeds would get all the customers.
What am I missing here?
It's impossible but socialists ITT literally don't understand
No, but the Trump supporters are
>sources
>blacked.com
kek
>citation needed
I'm pretty sure a "socialist" government and a net neutrality bill would work against lobbies
You're missing that in a lot of areas there is only one ISP, so you literally cannot change to a competitor and you're stuck with what you've got.
Libtards tend to ignore this fact because they reason in terms of "free market would save us all" without considering that in most of those areas it's not profitable to build more infrastructure to try and steal customers.
This implying that free market doesn't actually mean big corporates lobbying together to fuck the customers.
If they tried to do this, normies would flip out over having to pay an extra $10 for amazon and wikipedia.
And then 20 years later some fucktard on Sup Forums or reddit (posting for $50 a month) would talk about how GROWN UP he is for taking it in the ass
The problem is that no one seriously believes that local monopolies will go away while they can see NN as somewhat feasible since other big companies benefit from it. I'm not sure how you plan on getting around the natural monopoly problem. What's your plan for this?
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Look up when the US government nationalized the telephone companies in 1918, giving back it's monopoly to Bell
Literally have no idea what this is
>The reason that there are so few ISPs is exactly because of government regulation preventing competition from popping up.
You can't be this retarded.
What regulation is stopping them from competing?
Companies actively cut up the map so they don't have to compete. This has nothing to do with regulation.
You remember ma Bell (Bell Systems)? Before the regulation? Of course not because you're some millennial piece of shit. Pre-regulation phone systems were a fucking nightmare holy shit.
How can you say there's only 1 ISP when you fail to mention mobile companies.
I dunno how it is in HOME OF THE FREE LAND OF THE BRAVE FWEEEEEE but over here pretty much all mobile providers are owned by the same giant telcos that provide telephone, cable TV and home internet.
>Verizon FIOS vs Verizon Wireless
Look at all these choices!
>the future of a service used worldwide by all nations depends on what a single country and its companies do
>a nation whose companies instate botnets
>whose government spies it's citizens and other countries citizens for no reason in particular
>whose people still argue about old issues, while most other countries already moved on (niggers, gay marriage, abortion)
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This is why the ICANN not being at the US hands is a good thing
But if shit goes wrong you'll keep fucking things up by having US based sites become harder to reach by the rest of the world because you're forcing them to pay extra to keep up
WHEN WILL YOU STOP FUCKING THINGS UP FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD
didnt usa just hand over the keys to the internet to the rest of the world
what jurisdiction does usa have over the internet now
Fucking Canadians!
SEIZE THE MEMES
>Ma Bell
We are going to be old farts wearing Depends talking to kids about how much the internet used to suck by the time the USA unfucks itself of this internet bullshit.
>didnt usa just hand over the keys to the internet
No?
ICANN handles the root DNS servers of the internet but they're not the only DNS servers. Each country has their own that they control where they can add or remove websites as they see fit.