So now that the entire West has gone full 1984...

So now that the entire West has gone full 1984, how can I make absolutely certain a new archive computer has zero ability to connect to the internet? Should sensitive data be stored on any computer at this point? Should we start memorizing everyfuckingthing as epic poems again? God damn it I fucking hate the rich.

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>So now that the entire West has gone full 1984
Europe isn't the west anymore, it's western Islam. America is still a bit aways from being 1984.

>Islam meme

Step outside of Berlin/London/Birmingham/Paris

>how can I make absolutely certain a new archive computer has zero ability to connect to the internet?
By not plugging it in, idiot.

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/30/congress-allows-rule-permitting-mass-hacking-government-take-effect/94683030/

NSA, etc. US has been just as bad as Britain for over a decade. The US just isn't as honest about it.

I'm kind of paranoid now that someone is building them with backdoor quiet wireless. I know that sounds paranoid, but there it is.

You mean step outside of your echo chamber internet boards.

Nah we have guns

That's not 1984 though. 1984 is when the government openly spies on you and can hold that against you. American alphabet agencies collect a lot of data but can only act on very little of it.

We're still holding on to free speech for the moment and what's left of the 2nd amendment.

>1984 is when the government openly spies on you and can hold that against you
You mean like the UK and Germany? The US just lies about it. I don't see what that's better. Also NOT THE FUCKING POINT, SANIC HOLY SHIT.

>American alphabet agencies collect a lot of data but can only act on very little of it.
Also not the point. Also, hello, NSA. Kill yourself.

>has zero ability to connect to the internet
1. Don't plug it into the internet
2. Faraday cage

I'm just saying man. It's not 1984.

I heard tinfoil helps

>Faraday cage
That's...actually a good idea. Practically speaking though, how would one do this with absolute certainty that it blocked all wi-fi signal. I know this sounds mad, but I'm worried about hidden network cards that have technology that makes them hypersensitive to any wi-fi signal. We're living in ShadowRun and the corporations are out to get me.

NOT THE POINT.

It's 2016, which is worse

Sad thing is, you're probably not wrong. Aluminium foil makes a good faraday cage.

The fucking OP is saying it's a 1984 government when it's not.
In some ways it's worse.

Stop being autistic. God damn. If you grab that shadow any harder you're going to rip its dick off.

It's worse because you believe them when they say they're not doing all of the things that they are.

THIS THIS THIS A fucking trillion times this. Now let's get back on topic. How to completely isolate a device from all remote connections of any kind? And no, I don't think "not plugging it in" is enough. Especially for newer devices.

Have you children even read the book? Because you seem to think any form of invasion of privacy is 1984.

The goddamn faraday cage, you skitzo

Yes
May as well be

You would need to have some sort of electromagnetic field analyzer inside the Faraday cage. You would be able to analyze any sort of signals coming from the computer itself. When you turn the computer off , if you see any other signals, then the cage is not completely secure.

Faraday cage with walls consisting of cells that are smaller than light wave, i.e. foil or sheet metal.
100% radio shielding.

buy tech that was before wireless was mainstream. problem solved.

Kind of hard to find in good working order. Don't get me wrong, that was my first instinct.

>May as well be
Well thanks for confirming to us that you missed the entire point of the book.

If the goal was to create mass fear and hysteria among intellectuals, mission accomplished.

Find a guide on makind off-the grid computer out of old IBM noteboook.
It was made by that woman who wrote QubesOS.

Instead of going full tinfoil hat without reason, why not install wireshark and observe incoming and outgoing connections for yourself?

Shh your autism is annoying.

How would you observe hardware leaking info bypassing the OS like NIC or wifi card? Half of those carry a TPM chip and have DMA and also a proprietary firmware.

You SHOULD fucking be afraid. The world is going to hell in a handbasket and the fucking evil corporations want to milk every bit of data they can out of you. I don't care about most of my shit. If they want to tell the world what porn I watch, I couldn't give a shit less. But I have archival info that is not for them. Everyone should really.

This. Don't trust it. I want a hardware solution. As in - I can see everything in the computer/know it was made in a time when this tech wasn't the norm, etc.

Isn't lack of reading comprehension a sign of autism? May want to get it checked, user.

plenty of first gen wrt routers in existance, i have 4 all were free

>called out for being an idiot
>reponds with wicked fresh name calling such as "ur autistic"
I hope you're brought to room 101.

What? Why would I want a router? I want no remote access of any kind. The computer is to be isolated from all other devices in creation.

>But I have archival info that is not for them.
Nudes of your mom, I hope

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Remove wifi card, bluetooth card, desolder NIC and ethernet port, remove audio chip, desolder all usb ports, dolder down your memory and ssd, apply shielding, build a faraday cage, apply soundproofing and cpu denoising.

Get a typewritter and filing cabinet then. The NSA can detect your computer just driving by your home and the minute you leave they will install keyloggers and transmitters. Check your teeth, vents, electrical sockets, and overhead fans too. Trust no one.

Just use a normal computer and put it in the middle of nowhere.

>typewriter
Be sure to install typebar mufflers so NSA can't listen to the keystrokes to figure out what you're typing.

In seriousness though, pen and paper didn't help our poor bastard in 1984.

They can log keystrokes on an electric typewriter. Avoid these.
They can log keystrokes based on their sound on a mechanical typewriter.
Avoid these.

wow it's like everything we do in life leaves a foot print. I guess the best option to preventing others from hunting us down is group suicide. OP first.

>Get a typewritter and filing cabinet then
You know, I've actually strongly considered it recently. The reason I prefer computers is because organizing reams of notes is so much faster with copy paste instead of retyping/rewriting entire physical pages of information.

Problem is, computers wear out and old ones are on their last legs to begin with.

>In seriousness though, pen and paper didn't help our poor bastard in 1984.
That's because Oceania was further ahead along in their progress off the cliff than we are. We'll be there probably within the decade, but we're not just yet.

It wouldn't be electric.

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Terry need to write his own encryption algorythm so the CIA niggers won't decypher our files.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

Don't forget about Ethernet Over Power. Don't run any cables out of your Faraday cage. Use a double door layout and keep your system battery-fed. Manually walk your batteries in and out to charge them.

...like so.

New intel chips have wireless networking capabilities built right into the fucking silicon.

Faraday cage my friend.

I don't think data transfer works when the power is only plugged in to your power supply

Also, of course, never open both doors at the same time (make a long corridor just in case) and build your batteries yourself.

>leaking all your data unecrypted to the rest of your neighborhood

Did you inspect inner circuitry yourself to testify this?

That's precisely what I'm warning about, and fixing it here: Your power lines, specially if local and only 10's of metres long, can be useful as radio antennæ.

Are you going to build those batteries yourself so you don't have them transferring information to the power grid?

>Remove wifi card, bluetooth card

Wouldn't this be enough?

Have you not been reading the level of tinfoil we have going on here?

If they can only act on a little of it why collect all of it? they can openly act on a little of it, but secretly they can fuck your shit up in ways you can't even comprehend

Create local mesh networks that don't touch the internet,

How is that even feasible? Any network is vulnerable.

Insulate them in a faraday cage and write your own hardware-leve protocol

>So now that the entire West has gone full 1984
wut

We're much closer to Brave New World than 1984.

Huxley was right.

We're not controlled by oppression; we're controlled by noise and readily available pleasures and creature comforts.

Yes. Lead-acid batteries aren't hard to build. Don't forget to pour the lead sheets yourself.

>A city in a faraday cage
You know...

What important information are you possibly going to store? The govt isn't gonna care about you torrenting dystopian novels. You have to run a drug/CP cartel or try to overthrow the government for them to give a shit. If you're so annoyed, you might wanna just quit the internet and buy an old laptop without any wireless capability and a bunch of external hard drives. Posting on Sup Forums gives them your data btw.

Posting in threads like this might be probable cause to raid your house and shoot your dog, even if you aren't formally charged with anything.

>old laptop
I already said, that's hard to find. And I'm not concerned about the 50 trillion CIA operatives on Sup Forums seeing my shitposting. Fuck you niggers. Yeah, I'm talking to you. But everyone has actual private information.

I don't have a dog.

"no"

>I already said, that's hard to find.
I'll sell you one.

Also, do you want to buy a bridge? You could stand to make a profit.

Whenever someone mentions 1984, there's pretty much inevitably a swarm of pseudointellectual blowhards, most of whom were forced to read the book in high school, that feel strongly compelled to nitpick the intricacies and argue whether Brave New World is more applicable. Every single time.

Also, threads like this aren't even remotely probable cause. I'd sue whoever tried to act on it until their coffers were fucking wiped.

You can thank that imgur link on reddits front page.

1984 is not even about surveilance or freedom of speech in the first place.

>Also, do you want to buy a bridge
Lol I thought you meant like a hard drive bridge.

What's even worse about it is this is just internets smarts bullshit they got off of one dumb guy's shitty infographic about how "Brave New World was more accurate than 1984", which also just so happened to be about 85% wrong.

Well it's about a lot of things, but it certainly covers those.

I'm not saying right now. I'm saying in 5-10 years.

The rich are infinitely patient, and they'll also live longer than you will.

>I'm not saying right now. I'm saying in 5-10 years.
Christ, in 5-10 years the nukes may have already rained down. What continues to amaze me is that the average goon footsoldier doesn't have sense enough to grasp that the rich asshole bribing him to beat down the rest of his species will cause his own death and the death of his species given enough time (at not much time at that at this point). But humans never had much sense when it came to survival instinct. Evolution just rewarded them in the short term for eating all the other animals and now they think this means they'll be eternal gods reigning over the heavens, when what it actually means is mankind might have 20 years left.

lol, i still can't believe 58 agencies in the UK get every Brits' browsing history.

You guys are fucking retarded.

What scares me, OP, is that if a government entity targets you they will find a way to hack your system.

I was watching the documentary Zero Days and they got some NSA people to talk anonymously about making the Stuxnet worm that attacked Iran's nuclear reactors.

The Iranians kept their PCs disconnected from the Internet, but the NSA had no trouble jumping the airgap. The user NSA person even sounded dismissive, saying they always found a way into disconnected PCs.

You're safer because you don't have contractors plugging in USB drives with an American surprise, but still. Airgapping is no guarantee.

>Keeping your power plant on a network
Were asking for it.

A mesh network doesn't reveal your identity.

>Allowing to run executable binaries and code from external flash drives
>Using Siemens botnet
Oh yes, they were asking for it

Simple triangulation does.

I'm concerned about the information itself, not my identity.

People have far too much faith in technology now.

How would the FBeye know I was sharing leaked Hollywood B-movies on my mesh network share in the first place?

The FBeye would have to physically drive all the way out to my neck of the woods. The FBeye simply doesn't have the resources to monitor mesh nets.

With the internet, they're on the backbone. They can access everything from the comfort of an armchair.

Every cell tower works on many other frequencies and catches up all unauthorised channel, I don't even talking about military transponders.

Are you claiming a cell tower monitors wifi networks?

heh

>how can I make absolutely certain a new archive computer has zero ability to connect to the internet?

Why is this even a question?

Why wouldn't it be?

We have gone full Brave New World a decade ago already.

Going 1984 would be an improvement.

Step 1. Don't connect to the Internet.

That infographic is both wrong and stupid. Stop spamming its incorrect views.

Both Koreas

How so? Don't you see it, too?

Intel Xeons have 3G radios in them. What else does that they're not telling us?

Buy Power8.

I live in a small city above the arctic circle and every bus I take here is filled with niggers that smell.

>tfw they were both right

Chile is not white, noone is even aguing about it.