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>haswell and broadwell cannot function properly without early microcode updates >can't use a fully free distro
Logan Hughes
>you can't pause/resume a thread nicely and safely on linux it's 2016 for god sake.
Tyler Thomas
I like GNOME quite a bit, and I'm thinking of going with Ubuntu GNOME as my first distro, but I also want to give XFCE a chance. Problem is, it looks and works ugly out of the box on Xubuntu. How do I make it not awful?
Landon Hughes
you can't.
just embrace it
Blake Wright
Install a theme. I hate xfce too, though.
Just because other people recommend it doesn't mean you have to like it. MATE is garbo tier too.
>MATE is garbo tier too. So I'm not the only one! >Just because other people recommend it doesn't mean you have to like it. I know, but I at least wanted to give it a fair chance. After all, there's the possibility that I'll like it even better than GNOME.
Dominic Rogers
How come I can still use Deluge when I haven't set any rules/exceptions in gufw yet?
Hunter Anderson
are you sure the ports aren't opened by default?
Ayden Ward
I'm not sure. I'm a bit new to this stuff. These are my current settings. Are they not right?
Christopher Kelly
Give it to me straight Sup Forums
Is Manjaro acceptable in 2016?
Ethan White
Just use arch if you want to use arch. Manjewro has no reason to exist.
Liam Anderson
no distro which is based on another distro will be acceptable in 2017, so enjoy it while it lasts
Joseph Gomez
Debian is honestly a decent distro when you disregard the memes
Joshua Allen
>MATE is garbo tier too.
I'm sick of these threads and the rabble who spew their vitroil within.
Ryder Morales
what's the point of using a fully free distro in a chpset with baked in ME that can not be disabled anyway?
You know very well X86 is hostile towards anything but commercialized proprietary software
Austin Flores
no using any derivative distro is not
learn to use the root distribution or use something else
there is no reason to deal with shitty subcommunities
Liam Allen
Your favorite DE is bad though.
Easton Evans
>Suddenly opening in a terminal in a directory doesn't work in Xfce, instead it always opens in the home directory What the fuck?
Nolan Ramirez
I'm using Arch Linux, if it matters.
Dylan Perez
everytime
Jaxon Clark
I'm a grill btw
Nicholas Perry
cool, I heard it's pretty difficult to install, is it true?
Cooper Wright
Yeah, but I managed it. I'm actually a bit proud of myself.
Brayden Reed
posix or gtfo
Zachary Gutierrez
...
Alexander Kelly
okay me too - though moving onto opensuse soon as i prefer the screenfetch logo and kde looks interesting to say the least
Thomas Torres
wish'd I was that smart
Joseph Robinson
Cool, epic, pretending to be me
I wasn't asking for solutions, by the way, just annoyed that an update broke something like that
Brayden Reed
stfu! your ID says male!
Chase Fisher
these threads are awful
Brayden Taylor
They've really gone downhill over the past few years
Owen Rogers
It's easy to install, you just read the included text file and look up the wiki on your phone if you get lost.
Oliver Bell
they're actually good, thanks to the memers who search for every little flaw of distros they aren't using. this helps a lot to learn about differences between distros, developer competence, how things should work and shouldn't, etc
Jason Cook
Does wayland work on other distros than fedora?
Gavin Jones
why would you care
Cameron Nelson
hey guys i heard mint is very good for making android apps is that true
Thomas Taylor
Sup Forums is basically tech satire.
Lucas Foster
The only thing Sup Forums is satire of is itself
Dylan Diaz
Not really. Just don't fuck up when your partitioning/mounting drives.
Caleb Sanders
No better than any other distro.
Jacob Bell
>Guix Anybody Guix here?
It's NixOS but using Scheme(guile) instead of that weirdo Haskell-derived DSL NixOS uses so this means you can drive your whole operating system from emacs in a simple functional language(scheme). This has massive advantages especially if you're a dev making docker containers and other things you need to deploy exactly as is across eleventy billion servers.
Essentially instead of piles of programs and daemons that all require specific config files you have one scheme file that configures and deploys your system. You can super-abstract this like a lightswitch where you push a button and bam! dozens of servers deployed all identical to each other that will never have any production updating issues.
Chase Taylor
Just use Antergos, Manjaro or ArchAnywhere. Epeen will be shorter, tho.
Cameron Wilson
>not using vim
Cameron King
>not using spacemacs
Bentley Sanchez
>having to type a keybind to begin inputting text in a text editor
Daniel Butler
>being a vim babby Use ed like a real man.
Jonathan Collins
So I'll ask again. When I use dolphin I want to be able to select a directory or some files and press a key command to open the files with a particular program. For some reason this appears to be next to impossible.
Parker Foster
whats the most simple, autistic FLOATING window manager other than swm?
Im annoyed by only being able to resize from one corner of the window, not being able to move windows partway offscreen, and wmutils scripst for fullscreen, focus, and a few other things are kinda fucky, and im certain I couldnt do any better if I just made my own. It was fun to toy with it though
Oliver Brooks
cwm. Seriously. Just read the manual and create a .cwmrc file.
Alt click to move windows and alt middle click to resize. Click anywhere on the window to do that.
Aaron Foster
cool, thanks
Jose Brooks
What is Stallman's problem? Why is he such a degenerate and always full of piss and vinegar?
Yeah, it's really good.
>what's the point of using a fully free distro in a chpset with baked in ME that can not be disabled anyway? This is true. IntelME has full TCP/IP stack and memory access and shares flash with the BIOS. It operates totally independently of the main CPU and is actually really frightening. Glad I'm Librebooted. >You know very well X86 is hostile towards anything but commercialized proprietary software But what's a realistic alternative to the x86 arch? Are my other choices really Angry Birds processors or outdated PPC stuff?
Almost any OS is good for that. Just install Debian. Mint and Ubuntu are fucking abortions.
Lucas Mitchell
Ignore the picture. Sup Forums keeps fucking up my images for some reason. I run Debian 8 with KDE on a P8400 with 4GB of RAM.
Jose Hernandez
Gentoo user here.
Should I install Gentoo on my laptop or GuixSD?
Brayden Wilson
>P8400 Q3 2008, nice.
Debian 8 on T7100, from Q2 2007.
I've been thinking about a cheap desktop though.
Nolan Martin
before using guixsd check if your hardware works with linux-libre
Charles Garcia
Guix can also just be your package manager for Gentoo, you drop in some binaries and then can scheme your system configuration.
Since you use Gentoo, it might be easier to roll Exherbo on your laptop using their package manager completely schemed with Guix but only if you want rollbacks and dependability. Exherbo is all ex Gentoo devs
Adrian Nguyen
>But what's a realistic alternative to the x86 arch? of course, one doesn't exists. I just feel like x86 is cornering free users more and more every generation. PC architectures I guess are just too expensive with R&D and hours for a functioning free alternative. I suppose that's why Talos failed
Jack Brooks
Should I switch to arch linux? I use slackware and kind of bummed at how old the software is.
Systemd is nothing to fear right?
Jonathan Cox
"systemd is an init program"
Jayden Davis
>I suppose that's why Talos failed Well that's fucking depressing.
I really hoped I would get something like that in the future once the price per unit drop. My car was cheaper than this mobo.
Robert Perry
it's also because they are trying to fit a newly release architecture with server budgets in mind into a workstation that it failed. Even if they raised the money it would be very difficult to get a userland going because development for a relatively obscure platform with free software would be a mess.
The grand reason GNU/Linux flourished is because there weren't too many architectures that fragmented the dev community so a lot of manhours went into x86
Power8 is just too obscure. It needs to commercially scale to workstation to even become relevant and even then it would still have trouble attracting devs
That's my take, maybe someone with a more technical background can fill in the details and corrections
Henry Cooper
majority of mainstream distributions already support power7/8
Josiah Brooks
>using editors echo, cat, sed , pipes and redirects are all you need maybe tee if you cant into su
Kevin Powell
>clearly never worked on any project larger then 10 lines of text
Connor Peterson
clap clap clap clap
Brandon Scott
i want be pro elo emac pro any resources or just use it until i know every thing
David Johnson
yeah but there is a difference between support and having a working workstation with proper ports of everything you might need
Daniel Moore
just install kubuntu as my first distro. I Didn't know it was a meme distro. Should i install gentoo or debian. I want to learn about networking, so debian seems like a good choice, right?
Easton Jenkins
Will you fuck off? What the fuck is a "meme distro" you dumb asshole?
Stop seeking approval for every single decision you make. You're supposed to be grown adult not a child.
Nathan Scott
Install Gentoo
Dominic Powell
Gentoo might scare you off, you need to know a little bit about GNU/Linux before using it. But if you really want to learn and will not get too frustrated (and give up early) when you make mistakes, go for it.
Camden Nelson
>friendly
Jayden Price
grow up
Connor Rivera
i don't like debian i don't like arch i don't like fedora i don't like *buntu i don't like antergos i don't like manjaro i don't like centos i don't like slackware i don't like void i don't like solus i don't like pclinuxos i don't like sabayon i don't like calculate i don't like freebsd i don't like openbsd i don't like dragonflybsd i don't want to spend 3 days in stalling gen/funtoo
what am i supposed to do now? why is every single operating system so flawed
Aiden Butler
Install Solus
Ayden Myers
>what am i supposed to do now? accept your special snowflake award
Luis Brooks
Windows/OS X
Josiah Price
I agree with your assessment that every distro is flawed. Simply pick the one you dislike least (for me, it was Debian).
Also, if you say what your concerns/issues are more specifically, we might be able to help fix them or find better alternatives.
Obviously he doesn't want Windows or OSX if he's looking at Linux distros.
Joshua Powell
Gentoo takes only maybe a day to install.
Lucas Smith
I don't see mint on there
Obviously the solution is to install mint
Christian Peterson
dismissing gentoo is easier for babbies
Camden Rivera
So explain to me extended partitions. An extended partition is the same as the regular partition its a part of? They're both the same partition in a way?
Adam Bell
I'm not the guy you replied to, but an entire day for installation is way too long.
The only good thing about Mint is the creation of the Cinnamon DE. Besides that, it's just Ubuntu maintained by incompetent devs .
John Martinez
An extended partition is a partition that holds other partitions on a disk. You only need an extended partition if your system NEEDS to use MBR. Otherwise, you're fine.
Elijah Gomez
What steps are needed to upgrade to gentoo testing, other than just ~amd64 in make.conf. Is that all it takes?
Gavin Gomez
why would you move your whole system to testing?
James Foster
New software?
Liam Long
>fucked up X editing confs >FUCK can't log into any session now >somehow I can still see login screen >oh right I'm on Fedora >log into GNOME on Wayland >Correct my fuck up >everything works again >feels good man
Liam Scott
>fix error within tty >go on about your day
Carter Wood
How can I get touchpad tap to click working on things like awesome wm?
Julian King
xev xmodmap xbindkeys
Lucas Anderson
>need nvidia drivers >nvidia recommends 375.20 for my card >drivers available in package manager >clean install, no issues >first time i have witnessed nvidia running smoothly in plasma >feels good
Daniel Lewis
Why does this happen? Can someone help me fix this?
Ian Turner
KDE is pretty fucky sometimes. Maybe try restarting plasmashell, if its just something that appears after a bit killall plasmashell && kstart plasmashell or, maybe change the rendering backend in the compositor system settings thing?
Samuel Martinez
Neither worked. If it helps, my mouse cursor is set on resolution dependent and my mouse cursor always get smaller when I hover over the title bar on any window. This happens with any window decoration.
Sebastian Brooks
I fucked up x (by using wrong options with compton) like 4 times and had to reset my PC. How dangerous is doing that for my hard drives? Did I probably corrupt something?
Joshua Rivera
I'm afraid I dont really know then, those are just the things I do when something fucks up on my KDE desktop. I'm a lowly winbabby convert, so I dont think I can be of any help googling couldnt, at this point
Ethan Miller
got ubuntu on my hp stream, but the wifi isn't working. I looked online and it told me to check the additional drivers part, and i did and it says its working, but no networks are popping up. its weird because when I was trying it out without installing it was working okay. also open to trying other distros that aren't too difficult as long as they work.