Discussion of AMD Ryzen Processors

Last Thread: >AMD has created a processor product and brand in AMD Ryzen™ that expresses the power and efficiency of the all-new high-performance and highly efficient “Zen” x86 core. Multiple architectural advances combined with platform and processing technologies propel users to the next horizon of computing.

amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/12/amd-zen-performance-details-release-date/

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apple is gonna put these in the new iMacs, Mac Pros and future MacBooks mid 2017, shits gonna be cash

That picture makes me violently ill.

It hurts to be love sick

honestly i was suprised it beat the 6900 at stock clocks but i want to know how it does at boost and if there will be lower binned 8 core zens

Seriously if they just straight up copy intels lineup i am fucking done.

Also where the fuck is Vega?

>inb4 i only need 4 cores for gaming
2006 called they want their IPC back

>benching against a $1299 cpu
>Fury X was sold at the same or more than the 980ti
>Sup Forums expects a 6900k upgrade for $300

Amada

More like "A-cute-da"
Am I right?

>tfw no jenny gf

she will never wrap those huge black baps between your head and your head and suffocate you

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feels good man

Also:
>There are people unironically watching porn with debian jessie

Jenny a shit. Nicole the best blue waifu

Yes, but not earlier than 2017Q2, I don't really expect them before 2017Q3 though
The 5350 and the AM1 socket were quite popular despite being so short lived
But how aggressive can it be configured ? Will it let you rape your CPU with high voltages? Will it actually deliver on as much performance as your cooling can handle?
I'm quite skeptical, but it would make liquid cooling quite popular in enthusiast builds if it actually works that great
Raja cucked the CPU division out of the marketing money

Nicole is crap.

I just need to know the prices of their processors to know if I should wait for an upgrade or get an older intel cpu. My pc is 6 years and older and I need a new one. I want to build one myself this time.

>Put human female in OP
>Sup Forums talks about technology
>Put robot female in OP
>Sup Forums talks about robot

no word on the 4 and 6 core Zen is kind of a bummer. 6 core Zen might be the best buy for 'consumers'.

The robot is a piece of technology. Incidentally, I'd like to stick my USB into that robot.

>eggs
>underrated post

AMD is in a tight spot. AMD can't just price Zen equal to Intel. They knows it, Intel knows it and we, for the most part, know it. Lots of anons are counting on this. To me is fun to have this expectation on how AMD will play their hand. AMD is at a tipping point and they better have done their research on how they should bet on their hand because it might be their last.

It's funny seeing posts like this. 6years ago when they made a brief comeback at Intel, they priced with Intel. They do the same with their gfx cards and Nvidia. They price at the same as their competitors. You're best bet will be to wait for the Intel 7k series. Intel will price these in at the same level they always do, the 6k series will drop slightly and amd will either and die on the vine because they can't afford to lower their prices.

Looking at the arstechnica slides, if you look at the connection to the data cache, it can load 2 128 bit vectors per clock, but only store one 128 bit vector per clock.

I assume this is going to throttle avx2. otherwise the caches look very impressive (especially compared to bulldozer), but no mention of latency which is an important number.

zero mention of avx512.

I'm going to buy one to fuck with, regardless.

can anyone explain this in laymans terms? like why do i give a fuck

There's a good chance the chip they just showed off will be ~$400 USD

Half the price of intel for the same performance as intel

While they could undercut intel less, AMD is in a position where they NEED marketshare. This is about putting out a product so unquestionable worth buying that literally everyone buys it over intel.

No one uses AVX3/3.1/AVX512.
AMD spoke about their cache performance during their hotchip presentation.

They could get away with it to. Zen is a far more producible design than Broadwell. Also 1/2 the 6900k's price would be $525.

How much better than my Phenom II 965 is Ryzen?

I'm interested in Zen, but i think i'd be after the 64w chips in the lineup, which we don't have any details on yet.

-_-

If I could post some. Nicole for you I would, but that would constitute as furry and it's no fun to post images from the show.

Sadly, it will be 600$-700$ -_-
HALT AND CATCH FIRE RECOMMENDATION:
BETTER PERFORMANCE
1/2 PRICE

Is this their high end model? I'm honestly okay with a mid tier cpu since I don't do anything hugely demanding except for playing some shit games and programming which doesn't require huge amount of computing power.

10% more performance for a probably underclock 6900k...

Should be similar to this
cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965/3605vs606

was stated as bone stock 6900k

Nicole is for furfags

You don't have the Gigs or the R/W speeds to satisfy.

lmao kys your waifu is shit

has ryzen a gpu or not?

Vega

Leaked price info, top processor $249
tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

I want to know if we can push Zen past 4Ghz as easily as we could push Bulldozer past 5Ghz. It's a shame they didn't release technical documents at the time, but I guess they may well come at a later event, or at launch sometime in Q1.

any benches of the ryzen igpu yet?

The Ryzen product line is CPU only. Its a single 8 core Zeppelin die.
It is not an APU, it has no IGP.

I bought i7-6700k few months ago, explain why I screwed up.

Except for price, since last time I checked, it would got for much higher price than what I paid for i7.

Your next upgrade will need a new socket and therefore a new mobo. AM4 in the other hand is going to be around for long, making upgrades down the road cheaper and more compelling.

Actually am not mad :P ...
usually even hear it till the end.. -_-

Given i7-6700k performance, I dont think I will need CPU upgrade for next 4 years or something. My previous i5-750 that got replaced, served me for 6 years.

I've got an i5-3570k at the moment and that's like what 5 years old now? A 6900K isn't even 50% faster than it.

I honestly expected significantly better than that. Even my GPU - a GTX 660 is looking at more than double the performance if I get a new mid-range card right now, nevermind a high end.

It's like CPU development just completely dropped off a cliff the past few years.

>It's like CPU development just completely dropped off a cliff the past few years.
That's because it did, Intel has focused almost exclusively on making better integrated graphics and making chipsets that can't overclock

>Calls everyone shilling for Intel a jew
>Does it for free by promoting Pajeet tech

wew.

I wouldn't mind the Intel shills if they posted jenny more often or other cute 2D girls.

>The final two tweaks—"Neural Net Prediction" and "Smart Prefetch"—help to shuffle data through the CPU more effectively. AMD claims there's a "true artificial network" and "learning algorithms" inside Ryzen that are able to predict future decisions, pre-load instructions, and learn application data access patterns in order to improve performance.
Hardware backdoor confirmed?

Stay mad Jennyfags

Kaby Lake is pretty much equal to Skylake

This is you. This is why nobody else said anything.

Your taste is worse than shit and your parents should be punished for rasing you to be a horrible person.

t. Jenny

I wish.

>posting furry shit on Sup Forums
Neck yourselves

>being a weeb
Kys

>How much better than my Phenom II 965 is Ryzen?


Kek. You're truly a pleb. I have a under volted amd phenom || x4 995. Feels good to not have the botnet or skynet neural network in my chip.

Still same question. Even if it's the same performance at lower wattage I'll get zen. I want USB 3 without a shit controller and I kinda want to try m.2 as my boot drive.

Still needs to be competitive. $300 CAD would be insane.

Fuck. 955, not 995.

Heh. Nearly a decade old chip and I paid $40 for it and its motherboard.

hell yeah.

honestly exactly this
i dont expect them to release it for the same price, but not this 300-500 these fuckwits are preaching
im expecting 800-950, 600-750 if they go balls out and want to grab ludicrous market share ahead of the server launch
if they could get the kind of market share gains that they saw with polaris on desktop, then carry that into the server realm along with the release of instinct they're going to demolish 2017

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Not even Sup Forums likes you gumball liking queers, fuck off.

whoa, shut up. gumball is the best.

It's a containment general and I've seen a few threads, most of what gets posted is low quality /ss/.

co is so bad
literally ban on sight if you don't post the 5-6 comics they want to talk about
most butthurt janitors and admins
literally tvtropes in Sup Forums board format

Sup Forums used to be better when it was as autistic as Sup Forums or Sup Forums before tumblr invaded. Before tumblr, Sup Forums had no problem with loli, now the board is infested with moralfags and normalfags.

stupid sexy robot

>honestly i was suprised it beat the 6900 at stock clocks but i want to know how it does at boost and if there will be lower binned 8 core zens

according to previous leaks, there will be two 8c/16t SKUs, the lower binned one at 300something bucks and the other one at 500

but it could be complete bullshit

>Seriously if they just straight up copy intels lineup i am fucking done.
pretty sure they also have 6 core models planned but the same disclaimer applies here too.

>Also where the fuck is Vega?
we literally just saw it and we know it gets perf in the 1080 ballpark. we can probably expect the same shit as the 480/1060 results.

>Have to buy new motherboard

Why didnt someone invent a socket that just works with everything and it's the best forever

Here is your (you)

That drawing looks terrible

I would honestly like the reason for the change in chip type for each generation

>Put Maki
Everyone looses their shit.

We had that with Socket 7 but then Intel needed to keep AMD and Cyrix from piggybacking their motherboards and chipsets.

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I WANT TO CUDDLE XJ-9

8350 is the last CPU you'll ever need and it doesn't come with a shitty botnet ARM co-processor. Intels even worse.

Everyone does user, she's a very cute girl.

currently running mate...

does work

What's going to happen? Will we ever get the CPU development back that we had in the 90's and early to mid 00's?

CPUs are like cars.

>A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear.

As for AMD, I guess the new chip wouldn't run with the old chipsets. Intel has barely any excuses, their chips have very few changes.

Why do chipsets even matter so much if every controller is on the CPU die these days??!?!?!?

Sounds like something you should do research on...

Checked

No
Semiconductor design is getting more and more expensive and is subject to diminishing returns. Do you have any idea how much it cost to refit a fab for a smaller node? Intel's lack of significant IPC increase isn't due to lack of competition. They still have incentive to get customers to replace the CPUs they already have. There architecture has reached a dead end cumulating in the extremely underwhelming Kaby Lake. Anything they could do (complete redesign) would yield minimal benefits (would be lucky to get 25% more IPC after several core revisions), would be grossly expensive (literally billions of dollars to design a new arc and refit the fabs), and could be a total dead end and a waste of money (Netburst, Itanium, several other Intel arcs that never even made it to market, not to mention AMD's Bulldozer).

Throughput can't be increased significantly without absolutely pissing on yields, clock speeds are at their limits and are subject to diminishing returns.

Only way to go now is MORE CORES.

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Well, they did matter back on AM3+ days. That's why I said Intel has no excuse.

it will be $500 and the one with lower clockspeed will be $350. amd wants a part of the market back and the prices are targeted at the 6900k (half the price, same performance) and 6700k (same price, better performance). i'm sure they won't make them the same prices as the equivalent intels

>the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=brokenlynx xj9

Sources shall deliver.

Who's the guy posting the cat looking character and tagging it with every character and show in the Sup Forumsllection?

obivously specs arnt final
so they wont have anything that can topple the 1080 or titan x/ti?

fuck

Cat character?

the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=51648

That cargirl is a "fusion" of Jenny, Nicole, Peridot and Pacifica so her pics get all those tags.