as you all know, the only free major Linux distro that includes the word "Linux" in the title* just released 18.1 Serena
I am the first person on Sup Forums whose rig is currently rocking 18.1, you can follow me boys. It is definitely the best Operating System for the personal computer. A few words that come to mind when rocking this distro:
>elegant >beautiful >best
*distros that don't have an "L" in logo (arch linux) don't count
you can upgrade in ~7 minutes install all updates you have rn then click "edit" in your new update manager "upgrade to 18.1 serena"
a few new wallpapers is all i've noticed, you can also put panel on the side now if you're weird like that
Easton Perez
A LEAF
A FUCKING LEAF
Jason Morgan
You should try LMDE.
Eli Turner
If I need to use GNU/Linux I'm using Xubuntu 16.04, that's the best """""just-werks""""" distro.
Brandon White
I tried it and it looks like the same shit from 2 years ago. What's even new about it?
Thomas Bell
it's .1 better than 18
Aaron Martin
>not Xubuntu 16.10 the latest version Are you asleep at the wheel there m8? Keep up
Cooper Morales
>installing a distribution that had its website hacked and installation ISO files replaced with compromised botnet ones >installing a distribution without any security advisories no thanks
Dylan Smith
You mean that thing the developers themselves don't recommend and are about to drop completely?
Liam Sanchez
That's not possible yet.
Charles Collins
I migrated from Windows on one of my laptops to Mint. The hardware on the laptop was never very good to begin with, but it seems to run fine. My very first Linux and I'm enjoying it.
Luis Richardson
i did it earlier this morning, no way i would have 3k packages on clean install g
Adam Gomez
Really? You got a source on that? I pesonally use Debian, but recommended LMDE over it because it's more friendlier to beginners.
Ryder Green
ubuntu has like 2000+ packages out of the box
Oliver Harris
>>installing a distribution that had its website hacked and installation ISO files replaced with compromised botnet ones
Pics or it didn't happen
Camden Cooper
xubuntu is dank as well. cinnamon is really pretty but kinda taxing if you have older pc
16.04 is the most recent "lts" ubuntu
Jack Bennett
come hack me bro. i don't care if their website got hacked and a few people clicked a link that directed them to a corrupted iso hosted on a different webpage altogether
Cinnamon isn't even that good. Half those applets either work like ass or don't work at all..
Ryan Sanders
The torrents and mirrors were uncompromised. You only had to worry if you got the one that linux mint hosts.
John Scott
>Half those applets either work like ass or don't work at all..
You just explained Linux.
Henry Sullivan
>not verifying hash signatures >being this stupid
Ryan Myers
honestly because I've been using it since 17.1 on same install and it works fine. It works much better than Ubuntu MATE and Kubuntu have for me on my desktop, and I refuse to use any distro that isn't 100 pct compatible with Ubuntu because I need the huge community support if i fuck my shit up
let's say my ssd fries tomorrow... i might give xubuntu a spin on the next one, but I have too much shit on my computer to be compelled to switch
Isaac Harris
Hashes were also modified, so the fake ISO would have given you a matched MD5. This is why they moved to GPG along with stronger checksums like SHA256.
Gavin Lewis
Are you from 2012? Cinnamon 3.2 on Mint has reached a very good level of maturity. Fuck, is even better than KDE/Plasma.
Nathaniel Gomez
their website got hacked on one day, not even a full 24 hours was the bad link up, and everyone knew about it the day after.
it doesn't speak to the integrity of the actual OS
Angel Cruz
Thanks for the info. Somehow I can't see it in the update manager (yet).
Ian Thompson
It comes pre-configured and you can't rice it, so Sup Forums doesn't like it
Gavin Edwards
>better than KDE/Plasma. Not much of an accomplishment.
Dylan Reyes
I know. But still. Considering plasma has been in development since 8 years ago with more people involved and money and is an unfixable failure. Cinnamon is a well made piece of software.
Xavier Robinson
>>elegant >>beautiful >>best
Connor Adams
>I am the first person on Sup Forums whose rig is currently rocking 18.1 No I set it up on a VM last night. I didn't even know a new version was out lel.
Aiden Jenkins
>install it on my dad's laptop >the installation won't run >google it, somehow it downloads with improper md5sum kek >download again >installs >it won't shutdown Everything works but it won't fucking shutdown without forcing it with physical power button. Linux, everyone! >inb4 you're a retard Nothing to do with clicking next on a freshly formatted harddrive.
Matthew Garcia
i want to like it but its a buggy piece of shit
Owen Green
I tried Mint this year and I couldn't get some applets to work because "they weren't updated to work with newer versions".
Cameron Fisher
Install Debian. A word for you:
>superior
Juan Nguyen
sudo halt
Nathan Evans
What are some nice themes compatible with Cinnamon 3.2?
Carter Ortiz
Do they still not include any wifi support in the default kernel?
Carter Martin
It's still laughable it won't do that through GUI, considered its selling point is noob users for daily tasks.
Aaron Martinez
Works for me. :^)
Adrian Perry
>any wifi support my Atheros wifi works on a default Debian install. Which is amazing because its the legendary AR5BWB222 which lags/disconnects on every windows 8.1+ driver ever released.
Mason Hughes
Linux Noob here.
Just installed 18.1 this morning. Having graphics problems now that I never had with 18. When I install the Nvidia 340 drivers and reboot i get some message about rollback mode and restarting.
The internet told me to install the latest 375 drivers but even after adding the repository I don;t have the option to install. Is my card just too old for 375 (GeForce G210M)?
How much of a performance decrease can I expect with the open source drivers?
Kevin White
>i get some message about rollback mode and restarting Your desktop environment crashed. Are you sure this is related to your graphics? Might be a theme which isn't compatible to the new DE version as well. You should try the nouveau driver.
Sebastian Perry
Plasma 5 is decent, the only problem is that it's still early beta quality software because KDE wasted all of their time with Plasma 4.
Joseph Rogers
Pretty sure its driver related. Everything was fine before I updated the driver. Everything is back to the way it was originally including the nouveau driver now.
I'm not planning on doing anything really graphics intensive but ideally I would like the Nvidia driver working. Especially as it was working with 18 and the same DE last night.
Gabriel Bennett
I see. I'd check the Linux Mint IRC channel and the forums.
Oliver Phillips
Does it wipe your system or just upgrade it?
Jaxon Sullivan
While I use plasma5, I think kde4 was better. They have fixed a lot of stuff, but they also removed a lot of functionality, that I thought was core functionality. Eg, they basically removed widgets and the ones they wrote themselves are unusable. It is still 50 years ahead of the other desktops thanks to krunner, so I will use it until someone figures out how to make a portable launcher that works as good as krunner.
Jaxson Walker
I have mint 18. If I put a file on the desktop it doesn't align it to the grid unless I right click and select the align function. How do make it auto align?
Oliver Wilson
It is an upgrade. You will not lose any files or installed programs.
Brandon Reed
Right-click your desktop and mark the checkbox that is besides "Keep Aligned".
Jace Wilson
Not showing up. This guy is a BIG FAT PHONY.
Daniel Gray
Choose another mirror.
Ryder Carter
Which one did you use?
Dylan Hill
this desu
Gavin Lewis
pls respond
Sebastian Torres
Try "Linux Mint" (located in the USA).
Kevin Myers
Still not seeing any update options. Only have 3 options on edit even after enabling unstable packages. I'm using Cinnamon btw.
Angel White
Did you refresh everything? You don't need to enable unstable packages.
Henry Hall
I did, updated cache, refreshed everything. Not getting anything, and I'm on Linux Mint 18.
Leo Nelson
I upgraded.
NICE!
PS: it's asking me to update the kernel but the kernel number is the same as I have. Anyone know wtf that means?
Noah Turner
What about the update manager? You should get the packages mintupdate and mint-upgrade-info.
Dominic Hall
I'm not seeing those either. Does the base mirror matter too?
Nathaniel Price
>PS: it's asking me to update the kernel but the kernel number is the same as I have. Anyone know wtf that means?
It means you should move to a distro that isn't broken by design
Thomas Morales
>Debian
Asher Clark
Krunner is not part of plasma. So it's ironic.
Landon Hall
>dat butthurt stay mad
Jacob James
My wife's son told me Mint is shit and that I should just install Ubuntu or Debian instead
Now I don't know what to believe
Colton Peterson
Stay comfy.
Justin Barnes
I'll install it when I get my new hard drive. Currently on Xubuntu and I miss a few things from Mint.
James Fisher
Currently running Ubuntu with Cinnamon on it. What would convince me to switch?
Nathan Cook
LINUX from scratch. I N U X
Jason Nelson
How's this?
Grayson Howard
Why is Ubuntu the only distro that doesn't look like barf out of the box? I'm genuinely curious; I'm trying to get my feet wet with linux but can't stand the tacky themes. At the same time, ricing looks like too much work.
Zachary Wright
>Unity doesn't look good at all. If you don't want to waste time with ricing just install arc-theme.
Mason Price
blessed
Anthony Young
Arc Boje if you're a darkfag
Henry Baker
I thought about upgrading to 18.1, i installed manjaro instead
James Campbell
How can anybody be comfy with so much lies and misinformation flying around? The only non-meme distro seems to be Slackware at this point
Ryan Sanchez
What are the performance improvements on a rig with (whatever variety of ) Linux installed as opposed to Windows 7 installed? Have any of you tested this? Is the purpose of going with a variety of Linux over Windows to gain performance or to gain an illusion of privacy? Make a definitive argument why a Windows user should drop Windows and go with Linux. I remain unconvinced currently.
Gavin Ortiz
Can anyone help me with this stupid question... I'm booting Linux mint from a usb to learn my way around Linux but none of my settings or any data save. How do you make anything actually save?
Cameron Long
Debian has been shit for the past year or so. As far as I know, Maxwell GPUs still don't work OOTB. I also had a bunch of stability issues with the Mate desktop.
Having both of those issues puts you in a conundrum. You can install Jessie and have a somewhat better experience with Mate, but then my Maxwell card won't work because nvidia-driver in Jessie is ancient. If I install Stretch, I get a shitty crashy Mate desktop.
Before nvidia-driver in Stretch was updated, it was a clusterfuck getting Maxwell drivers to work. At first you could just pull the package from experimental (the driver in Sid was still too old). Then one of the Debian devs fucked something up and said "whoops you can't do that anymore because the new Nvidia driver is incompatible with some other component". So if you had a Maxwell card, Debian just wouldn't work at all. Then the dev apparently resolved the issue, but then when I tried to update the packages something massively fucked up and I couldn't get Debian to boot at all.
The whole experience kind of jaded me and I ended up switching to Mint. It's not as fast, and it has much more package bloat, but at least it just werks.
Grayson Anderson
you install it on your HDD
Alexander Hall
You need to create a usb flash drive with persistent storage.
Dylan Jones
New slideshow for random backgrounds now blends images as the transition. Such a small thing to add but it makes a huge difference if you have a lot of wallpapers and like them to rotate. Nice.
Lincoln Lopez
Back in 2015, I installed debian on a pc with a 980ti. I was under the impression that, because Steam OS was Debian based, that linux games would work better on Debian. It took forever, and a lot of additional reading on forums, but I got the linux drivers, which I downloaded from Nvidia's website (not the packaged ones for Debian), to work, and I figured out the installation process for Steam (again, not the packaged version specifically for the distro). I wrote down all the steps, and saved them, but they got deleted in an OSX update. And then I discovered that Valve tells linux developers to develop for Ubuntu. Don't fuck with Debian, there is no point.
Cooper Cooper
I am waiting for Bomi to support Xenial.
Hunter Gomez
Compile it.
Luis Jenkins
>As far as I know, Maxwell GPUs still don't work OOTB.
Of course not, you need the proprietary firmware for full functionality. Nouveau will not work 2D acceleration in Maxwell right now.
Though, after installing the drivers, you should be able to use them well enough.