Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
how can I tell whether a given T400 has a CCFL or a LED backlight screen?
Justin Miller
I need to install windows on my x230, should I go win7 or 10? Got 10 EDU working on my main machine dualbooted and its pretty fucking great, but its running on a 16gb 6700k. what do?
Ian Lee
I have an x230. Theoretically, would one be able to wire a second internal mSATA connector to the SATA pins on the dock connector? Is there enough room anywhere to store an mSATA SSD connected this way?
7. I had nothing but problems with 10. So, so many problems. Primary thing that made me go back to 8.1 was a broken fucking taskbar (it would crash very, very frequently).
Charles Foster
reddit.com/r/thinkpad
They have recently had a spate of battlestation postings. Pretty awesome.
Adam Wood
are there any ultrabook style thinkpads? all the ones listed above are too thick
Ayden Martin
Which Thinkpad has the best battery life? The battery doesn't have to be stock
Justin Reed
Look up the carbon
Joshua Reyes
x230 if you fully max out the battery you can get like 20 hours.
You're gonna need to buy a battery + slice from lenovo though, you CAN modify the bios to run third party batteries but I think the lenovo batteries are better anyway.
Elijah Scott
partypads
who here >stuckin2004
Daniel Ross
I love my ThinkPad x220. Really think it's wonderful. But if only I could travel forward in time to 2026 so I could get a rereleased x220 which looks and feels the same but has graphical processing power in the CPU's integrated graphics chip on par with the high-end graphics cards of today. So I can play Overwatch and GTA V on this baby
Jason Cox
ultraportable models that can accept slice batteries, 9 cells and ultrabay batteries
so, most of the tablets and x series models
Logan Phillips
best place to buy 6 cell batteries desu? ebay isnt throwing up a lot of results
Lincoln Russell
post eGPUs
tell me about performance, especially when using the internal screen
my w520 needs a boost and finding a quadcore+2000m motherboard is too hard, plus i don't think it would help much anyway
i don't have an external monitor to use or anywhere to put one so i'm particularly interested in the performance drop when using the internal screen, is it a straight decrease in framerate or is it something shittier like microstutter?
please advise
Connor Long
who x201 masterrace here?
Thomas White
t420 + pe4c + 750ti
overwatch i can lock 30fps high settings on the internal screen 1600x900. 1366x768 and lower settings might get to 60
Evan Gomez
>i'm particularly interested in the performance drop when using the internal screen, is it a straight decrease in framerate or is it something shittier like microstutter? It depends on the game. Some games load most of the data to the vram in advance, in which case the hit is minimal. Other games try to stream as you play. The latter type is rare, but pretty much unplayable. I think Dishonored is the best-known example of that.
Noah Morales
>30fps Literally unplayable
Ryder Long
look at mr pro esportz gaymer over here won't accept less than 144 farts per second with a fucking business laptop from 2011 and a free parts bin gpu
Lucas Baker
To be fair, any FPS feels shitty at 30fps.
Adrian Gonzalez
any thing --30 onwards has an (s) model which are the ultrabook versions. X230s T430s an so on.
Carson Hughes
there theoretically would be if you were to cannibalise the expressport.
Lincoln Howard
>X230s It's worth mentioning that this was a Japan (or at least Asia) exclusive model and you will never EVER find one anywhere else. X201s was the last time the West got a slim X series, but it's not that much thinner if any thinner at all than the X220.
Colton Ramirez
Can anyone explain how to change the core speed on the w520? When plugged in it goes for max performance and gets pretty hot. When unplugged it's cooler but noticeably slower. Using cpuz it shows ~3.4 MHz when on the charger and when unplugged it's ~.9 MHz.
I don't really know anything about the significance of these numbers other then bigger number = faster, but want to able to set it an "average" speed for normal performance. I've explored the BIOS and could only find that I can either set it at max performance or battery saver.
The cpu is a i7 2860 qm and the gpu is a quadro 2000m
Also on a side note how do I make it so that the laptop sleeps when the screen is closed?
Matthew Harris
x220 masterace reporting
David Wood
What do you even use these for?
Jaxson Cruz
>pe4c
Is it necessary to get an egpu expresscard thingy as expensive as that one. I looked it up and it is 162 USD whereas I've seen ones on gearbest for fifty bucks usd.
I have never done anything egpu related on a thinkpad just curious.
Jack Harris
i did a clean install on used w540
what's do i need to install to get all the extra keys like volume up and down working? looking to install the least amount of bloat
Logan Gray
Fun
Chase Jackson
I need some help guys I was upgrading my t420 to 1600x900, so I swapped the LCD cable and as I'm putting back in the palm rest I accidentally put in a longer screw, i didn't notice till I hit a circuit? I'm nos sure what it is So, i put it back together and it won't turn on, I'm trying to determine if that's the cause, it doesn't look too deep and if it is, do i need to change the motherboard?
Tl;dr im an idiot
Colton Myers
I have an i7 t420 with integrated graphics. How big of a step up is the t430 with an i5 and Nvidia chip?
Thomas Powell
Thinking of getting a modern Thinkpad or similar computer but it needs to handle MATLAB well. Thinking an i7 and at least 12 GB of RAM, any suggestions?
Jayden Foster
If you get an egpu or just build a budget gaming rig it would be a better investment imo
Nicholas Brooks
what size hdd does a t420 use?
Christopher Sanders
Is this a good deal on a w520? T420 owner here
Jack Wood
i got it at a better price than that, but yeah i've heard the price jumped by a whole lot recently. the pe4c v3 is said to be more stable at gen 2 signalling than the older exp gdc versions. the more recent exp gdc v8 might have fixed that, though i'm not sure.
Liam Nguyen
Does the T series have a tablet version? Basically looking for a 14" thinkpad with touch capability.
Hunter Lopez
What sort of data will you be working with in matlab? I've an XPS 13 with an i7-6560u (2C/4T) and 8GB ram and haven't run into any issues with matlab. Then again, I only use matlab for data filtering and analysis for my research. It all depends on your use case.
Nolan Gomez
That isn't a bad idea. Only issue is the lack of proximity to the dock connector pins
Lincoln Hughes
Well, I ended up buying it despite everyone here telling me it was overpriced by a couple hundred bucks.
I'll be sure to report back next week with the inevitable buyers remorse.
>bells and whistles >WiFi
Evan Lee
t42 is my daily driver for web browsing, games, etc r52 is for music storage x41t is for drawing R30 is for CS 1.6 380ED is for, idk, windows 98 funtimes, simcity 2000 and doom G40 is just for the lols, thiccpad is so cool
Liam Campbell
X200/X200S here, picture shows my X200S.
I actually also used to have a X201, but the entry level i5-520m was way worse compared to the P8600 in my X200.
In any case, the X201 is the last no-touchpad X-series, so it deserves to be praised.
Chase Turner
a custom touchpadless palmrest for the x2x0 would be sicknasty
>$300 USD Did I make a good purchase? Gonna replace the battery with a 9 cell when it gets here.
Jacob Brooks
I do image processing stuff, particularly with image registration
You have a recommendation? I've been looking at the newer XPS 13s with Kaby Lake
Chase Rodriguez
how do you guys clean the oil stains off your thinkpads and those light scrratches on the rubber top part behind the monitor? These minor cosmetic flaws are a real peev
looks pretty good, holds my x200 with 9cell like a champ.
Ryan Gutierrez
was it expensive?
Ryan Gonzalez
like 12 bucks shipped, which was a quick turn around. like a little over a week from china to the US
Nicholas Price
looks nice. i've been meaning to get a laptop bag for a while, i guess i'll look into one of these. thanks
Tyler Miller
Do I need a 12,7cm or a 9,5cm caddy for my T420s?
Luis Williams
R8 my pretty IBM T40
James Roberts
gay/10
Adam Russell
Should I get an x201 or X220? I'll be using it for programming & note taking, which would be best for that kind of usage? Thanks!
Liam Perry
stop touching the screen
Nolan Barnes
X220t so you can actually take notes. Typing is not an effective learning strategy, plus its fucking annoying to have an autist banging away at his keyboard in lecture.
Jaxson Mitchell
Is the keyboard very loud? In my class we all bang on keyboards cause programming, but the netbook I've got now (samsung n150) has a pretty silent keyboard, albeit slow as fuck that it can barely run xfce smoothly
Jason Martinez
Get the tablet variant of the x201, I use my X22T for note taking and it's pretty damn great use of the stylus because onenote. But the 16:9 screen ont he X220T is annoying. X201Thas a 16:10 screen so that helps alot.
Michael Clark
X200 : the pins of the power input got destroyed a bit and it keeps disconnecting, it's really annoying to find the perfect positing of the plug. Can someone take a pic of its power in? I'm not sure which is signal/power/ground
Angel Thompson
around a year ago i bought a t420 from ebay. the battery charged up until 68%. I found this acceptable and didnt bother much.
Now, I bought another T420. For some reason I used the power adapter that came with it to charge my "old" thinkpad. Somehow, it charged it up to 83%. Though, both power adapters show different modell numbers, they have the same power output.
Anybody has a clue what the reason might be?
Gabriel Morgan
What is that wallpaper?
Grayson Rivera
hot air baloon. I have it somewhere, but i dont feel like going through 6k unsorted, improperly named, images to find it.
Ethan Perry
>hot air baloon Thank you!
Gabriel Ortiz
shameless self bump. yeah the >tp.krelay.de/ is great, but wat do if there's no way for me to know the type (no type sticker left on the machine || too much hassle to ask the seller etc)?
>the entry level i5-520m was way worse compared to the P8600 please elaborate. aside from the trivial fact that it's one generation ahead, afaik the 520m has noticeably higher benchmarks, and I can't find a single advanced feature on ark.intel which the P8600 possesses and the 520m does not.
scratches are not something that you can clean off. you can either be more careful with your next thinkpad, i.e. always tuck it in a sleeve or a dedicated padded laptop bag, or just accept it being a tool, not a jewelry piece, and hence signs of wear being nothing to be ashamed of.
>t42 is my daily driver for web browsing, games, etc what specs does it have which make it daily driveable? I can't imagine anything older than **00 being still daily driveable without huge pain.
Austin Lee
TDP, 25 Watt vs 35 Watt, big difference for a laptop that size.
Hunter Hall
For X220 users I got my x220 today, but cpu is very hot. 70-80 degrees with chrome, 50 degrees idle. Is it normal on x220? i7-2620m version
Adam Bennett
I bought a 2570p for $100. I hope I don't regret it, I've never bought a laptop before.
Carson Scott
>2570p for $100 Am europoor and jealous of such bargain.
Nathan James
This. It's a great laptop
Owen Scott
X200s here, but I have the p9600 and the 1400x900 screen.
Are there any x201s's for sale anywhere?
Nathan Green
max it out with a quad core
Luis Reyes
They're rare as fuck. Search ebay every day and you might find one within the next six months. Best official X series is worth it, though.
Camden Walker
>GTA V It'll play that on low settings right now.
Blake Anderson
I remember seeing one for like $250 on ebay a few weeks ago. Considering how rare they are, is that a normal price?
I got my x200s for $50.
Colton King
Yeah, that's pretty good actually. Mine was an auction and it spiked to fucking $400 due to all the snipers piling on at the end. Of course, a week after I'd won it, I saw a buy it now listing for one for $150. You pretty much have to take whatever you can get with the rare models.
Robert Brown
The product page said it has a quad core already, not sure if it's a mistake.
Noah Adams
2 cores 4 threads
Ryan Jones
Repaste.
Kayden Jones
eBay? Does the x200s often go for that low?
Christopher Diaz
I got it in "for parts or not working" condition, replaced the keyboard with a brand new one and slid in an SSD I already had.
Benjamin Allen
So I now have this. How the hell do I enable Wifi? I can't find a key that looks like the antenna symbol I'm used to. Sorry if I'm being dumb, on my previous laptop it just werked.
Bentley Rivera
Look for a small switch on the right side of the machine and make sure it's pushed towards the battery.
Isaac Myers
Cheers buddy.
Caleb Allen
Anyone can take a clean pic of the power plug of a X200 (laptop side)?
It's not a fetish, I just broke mine and might solder something.
Hunter Anderson
hey boys. complete fucking newfag. if i install linux on my chinkpad will it allow me to connect to public wifi/school wifi?
Logan Cruz
I have a t440s with the lower end i5 and 12 GB of RAM. I use MATLAB for image processing and parallel computing (to write programs for a computer cluster).
Henry Baker
I'm interested in purchasing a Thinkpad for under $600 and there was someone in Amazon selling P50s and P70s for $600 when everyone else sold them for over a thousand bucks.
He's gone though, and now there's a guy selling them for $450.
As a future engineering student, these models are highly tempting but I'm unsure if it's bait, Sup Forums.
Noah Reyes
Of course nigga.
t. Recently-kill $200 Fedora Acer craptop owner.
Kevin Clark
Update on this.
The guy ran out, now there's another guy selling it back at $600.
Anthony Robinson
What kind of RAM would fit into an x230?
I get the impression RAM chips aren't as standardized as hard drives. Those I can do.
Matthew Taylor
>PC3-10600 DDR3 memory at 1600MHz says the wiki
Camden Lee
german keyboard?
Levi Martinez
german keyboard!
Julian Davis
How much would you folks pay for a relatively unused T460 or X260, online on an auction or used items site?
Nathaniel Wilson
>RETEQ wut?
Adrian Turner
Bought an L420 second hand a couple of weeks ago. Dropped some extra RAM into it and a larger hard drive. Current specs: Core i5-2520M / 12 GB RAM / 1 TB HDD.
Some thoughts: a.) Did not realize until after purchase that the L420 is Legacy BIOS only, no UEFI. b.) Did not realize until after purchase that the BIOS implements whitelisting for mini-PCI wifi cards.
Solved problem A by using Clover EFI bootloader to emulate EFI in software. Solved problem B by flashing a modded BIOS.
Now multibooting Linux Mint 18, Windows 8.1 Pro and macOS Sierra 10.12.2, all installed in UEFI mode.