>Sony

why can't Sony ever into:
>menus
>battery life

why? how fucking hard is it for the gooks to hire some competent people and get these things straightented out?

They're nips not gooks, silly racist.

The Taiwanese already make all the batteries in the world

California is going to be making as much batteries as the rest of the world combined (in Tesla's battery factory)

thank you for your service murrica

This is terrible misinformation. Tesla is not creating battery cells. Tesla is *assembling* battery packs for their cars. This is a vitally important distinction. The underside of Tesla electric cars house a massive slab of a battery pack. Its filled with cooling fluid, some protection circuits among other things, but its primary component is Panasonic 18650s. Tesla's electric vehicles are powered by off the shelf Panasonic 18650s.

Tesla is not creating new battery cells. They are assembling battery packs using cells built by Panasonic. Google pictures of it. People have ripped them apart. Just row after row of 18650s welded together.

Even their wall unit home energy thing is just filled with off the shelf batteries they purchased from someone else.

is there a reason Panasonic is not making those home energy units then?

>Even their wall unit home energy thing is just filled with off the shelf batteries they purchased from someone else

Just like all the other wall units for years.

Just goes to show that they really are nu-Apple, "courageous" decisions included.

The Z3 had an amazing battery

They do.

Email them and ask. Maybe they are, they're a big company.

The difference here is that Tesla presented it as some revolutionary new thing, just like they present their enormous assembly plant as if its something new, and going to bring about magical EV innovations.

Tesla just like Apple is propped up by a crazy cult of personality.

so why do they get zero press and Tesla gets all? does Panasonic such THAT much at marketing?

>Own Sony Z3
>Epic Battery Life

Okay, OP.

Panasonic didn't need to suck at Marketing.
They catered to home builders, contractors, architects, and in catalogs and magazines that catered to high-end home building and renovations.

Friend's dad is an electrician, and was approached by a Panasonic Sales rep many years ago about offering whole-home batteries to his clients, and he has. He's installed ~30-40 himself in the general area. But, really, outside of "SAVE THE WORLD" marketing hype, these whole-home batteries don't really get much use unless you have an efficient solar system to pair them with, which many people still haven't adopted, and if they have, they've adopted it because of potential to save money, and a grant. Which there is no grant for whole-home batteries yet...

Also, service on a whole-home battery, at least the panasonic versions, isn't cheap.

Because Tesla are a marketing company like Apple. Did you Know Nissan has a battery pack, as do BMW and Merc, thats just the car makers. There is Growatt, LG, Fronius & Hoppecke. Most of the units are utilitarian in design but wuth a proven track record in buisness and industry.

>grant
what?

>so why do they get zero press and Tesla gets all?
If anyone did the math they would realize those powerpacks are a huge waste of money unless it is part of a solar system that would need a battery pack anyways.

One of the features touted by Elon for the pack is that is charges up while power is cheap and then you use the pack when power is expensive.

People don't realize the gap between off peak and peak power cost is only 8-15c (depends on your location)
Meanwhile the powerwall has a capacity of 6.4 kWh and costs $3,000 bucks.
Even if you charged it for free , and discharged it during on peak hours, and let us assume you live in an expensive state where on peak costs 20c per kWh
it would take you 6.3 years to break even.

are you guys sure that the Panasonic 18650 thing is not what they're doing until their own factory is built? perhaps they use those just until they can actually manufacture their own batteries in California. otherwise there would be a public and media outrage about Tesla lying to everyone.

They can be quite usefull if you have a decent off peek unit price that offsets the efficency chain of AC-DC-AC, but they take a long time to get any ROI.

Referring to Solar Panel installations. Many government and private grants are available to homeowners to offset the costs.

We live in a gulf-state. Our power prices don't tend to fluctuate much outside of month-to-month.
But even in areas where power pricing does fluctuate like that, you're right. The cost of the unit, installation, on-going maintenance, and future upgrades means your ROI may approach the same terms as your mortgage.
Most of the units hes installed, have been in Rural Areas where a power can be out for many hours before being restored, for simple things that would have been taken care of in less than an hour, in a more densely packed area. As well, in these rural areas, theres a big problem if your power is out for long periods of time, as it can spoil potentially months worth of food. So the potential to avoid disaster with a whole-home battery is much greater in rural areas, than in more densely populated areas. And these people usually also have the money to pay for these units+installs+maintenance.

>4k
>12megapixels
hahahahahahaha

>its a calling nips gooks episode

12MP is for stills, but no one buys an action cam for stills.

get with the times faggot, gook is a blanket slang against all non-chink east asians.