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>ubuntu the thread Old one hasn't been dropped by maintainers.
Sebastian Parker
First for Freedom.
Mason Myers
linux is breaking your dominant hand to get out of cuffs
Chase Moore
OP here, not the poll
Noah Price
note*
Juan Robinson
is there even a discord?
Liam Evans
>poll we had an IRC, nobody cared about and it was merged to sqt so I don't think people would care
on the other hand, IRC isn't something normalfags would use anyway
Austin Phillips
No, we'll have to make one. Problem is #1: It's closed sourced, leaves an uncomfortable feeling while free and opensource alternative exists #2. Discord is mainly for gamers
IRC is not secure afaiac
We should have a poll because it will have a better moderation
Austin Ward
umatrix is being a cunt and won't let me activate the strawpoll captcha, but I was gonna vote the bottom option because an IRC would be neat.
Jaxon Allen
This thread is pathetic. It is not about programming. It's just a bunch of computers illiterates and first semesters memeing about whatever they just learned.
A quick search shows that most arguments used here are not original and have been copied from some trendy tech blog or other shit site.
The only real programming questions I have seen so far are from beginners(it's fine to be a beginner btw).
This entire site is shit and I don't know why anyone would regularly come here.
Carson Bailey
voice chat would be bretty cool t b h. Then you would be blessed by my virgin voice and stuttering.
Isaac Edwards
>I don't know why anyone would regularly come here. Old habits die hard
Matthew Gutierrez
>Voice chat >Sup Forumsfglt turns into Sup Forumsfglt
Jaxon Parker
>This thread is pathetic. It is not about programming. Yes, it's not about programming... It's a GNU/Linux thread. More of a sysadmin thing than a developer thing.
>The only real programming questions I have seen so far are from beginners(it's fine to be a beginner btw).
Why are you even bringing up programming? There's /dpt/ for that.
Jose Butler
>dpt >programming
Brody Phillips
do you not want to hear my stuttering? you even get to hear my neighbors doing their domestic abuse - dude really knows how to body slam people.
Andrew Young
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Pasted on the wrong thread, sorry desu, I usually put more effort on my shit post but I should already be sleeping. Almost posted the Debian vs Arch one on the /dpt/.
Cameron Cruz
>Sup Forumsfglt turns into Sup Forumsfglt theres already a fork running Sup Forumsfglt
Jonathan Price
>Not calling the police
Elijah Phillips
For real?
Lucas Ward
Alright let's actually make a experimental voice chat channel.
Excuse me for my American/A**tralian clusterfuck of an accent
Kevin Richardson
an*
Lucas Kelly
oh fuck i gotta buy a mic.
Asher Bennett
>He doesn't have a mobile phone
Dominic Murphy
>carrying proprietary software with you everywhere You don't belong here.
Nicholas Powell
>He
Parker Torres
my phone is too old
Liam Cooper
>"GoboLinux is a modular Linux distribution - it organizes the programs in a new, logical way. Instead of having parts of a program thrown at /usr/bin, other parts at /etc and yet more parts thrown at /usr/share/something/or/another, each program gets its own directory tree, keeping them all neatly separated and allowing the user to see everything that's installed in the system and which files belong to which programs in a simple and obvious way."
This is distrowatch's description of a distro on its top 100 right now. I'm not about to switch to it (content with opensuse) but I am curious as someone who knows little of the more intricate parts of Linux - are they onto something by organizing it this way? Or is it a gimmick with little to no benefit, or perhaps even worsening the system?
Carter Lewis
If we are voice chatting, how are we supposed to imply that we are grentexting? (or greenspeaking)
Lucas Long
are you really gonna buy a mic just to talk to /fglt/? that's kind of cute desu
Jaxon Thompson
Yes, lets set up video chatting as well. We did that on another website I used to visit
Zachary Torres
It makes much harder for software to work together. It will also require to patch all software or symlink files to the old directories.
Blake Morris
It's a pretty nice distro concept actually. But the support may suck
Christian Nguyen
The file system structure mostly makes sense as it is. There's slight variance with different distros, and a bit more with BSD, but I don't know if a change that major would be good.
Eli Morgan
>voice chatting That's for normies.
Lucas Cook
monotone voice / just saying it how you'd type a greentext
>he doesn't know how to greentext in voice chat
becomes
[monotone] "he doesn't know how to greentext in voice chat"
you can kinda do it with inflection, I'm probably explaining it poorly
Justin Moore
You don't want to sound like a 14 y/o game streamer with shitty mic, user
Chase Ross
/p/lebbit The Thread
David Perry
>This thread with like 6 replies is pathetic! A quick search here reveals a bunch of interjecting and copied AT&T Unix tools, and nothing is written in javascript. Why does anybody come here and not to /r/java
Eli Ortiz
I actually frequent an IRC that's almost entirely autists and a handful of them voice chat rather often. Some even prefer it to text, I think.
Sebastian Thompson
Make a Ring channel
Logan Nguyen
They are just normies trying to get into our cool kids club.
Adrian Clark
I just got a Macbook air since I need one for work purposes, but I would like to have an actual functional OS to use day to day. I could always dual boot Windows 7 but I would prefer to have a Linux distro to do most of my other work on. Does anybody have any recommendations for what would work well on my Fagbook?
Asher Evans
Bought that book recently, it was expensive as fuck but worth it.
Levi Garcia
Get Xubuntu, do your normal stuff
Jose James
>implying most of you retards aren't normies
Noah Nguyen
Does anybody actually still dual-boot in $current_yr because we have these things called VMs now
Isaiah Kelly
Hardware support is handled in the kernel, so every distro should be pretty equal unless it uses out of date packages.
I can personally recommend Arch. It's pretty comfy. You'll probably want to use a third party installer. Arch Anywhere is nice, and there's also Architect.
Mac OS is actually fairly usable as well, though. I haven't got it on any of my machine currently, but I spent a bit of time with it in school. It's got the basics like vi and openssh out of the box. Man pages, too. I think it even comes with emacs installed, because I can't imagine the tech guys at my school just happened to put it on all the computers.
If you're used to GNU/Linux you'll definitely want a third party package manager for Mac OS. I've heard this one is the best: pkgsrc.org/ There's also Homebrew and Macports.
Wyatt Kelly
I guess I may have fallen behind a bit, but i don't want my hardware to turn into a toaster because I'm trying to use it as a fancy emulator
Grayson Clark
What sort of stuff does it cover? How long does it take to read?
>It will also require...symlink files to the old directories.
Unless I'm understanding symlinks wrong, could it be the case that they didn't really change anything and instead just made, iunno, a table of contents of sorts for the system? Nice, but purely cosmetic and unnecessary?
Nolan Perry
I just started teaching myself python, and I decided to dive head first into linux. I want to create a simple, bare-bones development vm so I won't be distracted. I've only started reading about linux, and so far I've:
Installed Ubuntu via the mini.iso
Ran: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get install -y build-essential dkms linux-headers-generic linux-headers-$(uname -r) cd /mnt sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run shutdown -r now sudo apt-get install lightdm i3 xfce4 vim mc dtrx htop
Any other suggestions? Is vim suitable for simple python projects?
Dominic Kelly
Weeks to read, covers lots of low level system calls and systems programming.
It is lacking in the socket programming area but it covers processes, directories, file permissions, IPC, threads, memory, file IO, message queues
Luis James
>not regonizing stale pasta
Christopher Reed
>Any other suggestions? In regards to what? >Is vim suitable for simple python projects? Yes, it is. You won't see much benefit for small projects but it's good to learn if you want to take advantage of it when its power is needed.
Alexander Martin
I'm eager to ask why do you need a graphical environment in VM for fucking around with python.
Wouldn't it be much more efficient to make it a development environment and connect to it remotely from the host OS?
Levi Scott
Is it fairly accessible to a beginner? I'm fine with the commandline and basic system maintenance, but not much more.
I probably won't start it for a while since I'm in the middle of a different technical book someone recommended me at the moment. "Structured Computer Organization"
Hudson Allen
get tmux as well
Kayden Bailey
>In regards to what?
I dunno. Both Linux and coding were completely alien to me a few days ago. I'm not familiar with any common utilities and such that are available.
Gavin Gonzalez
Hey Sup Forums, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?
Daniel Garcia
>Is vim suitable for simple python projects? Should be, yeah. It's also good if you can get used to using something like vim instead of a bloated IDE. It'll make you a less lazy/needy programmer.
Robert Wilson
I've never used anything other than Windows, and wanted to be able to actually use the box until I overcame the learning curve. I was hesitant to install it.
Jose Murphy
They're all pretty similar once you install them and set them up how you like. Arch is probably my pick. Like I said, once the install is over and you've got your environment all setup, they're all pretty easy, but I think Arch sticks out a bit because of how convenient the AUR is for getting slightly obscure stuff.
Gabriel Garcia
If you have a very good understanding of C and operating systems then yes, otherwise you would find it extremely difficult.
It is about the code behind things such as the command ls or fork etc.
Liam Cooper
>AUR and gone is security
Leo Peterson
Well start getting comfortable with the terminal. Think of something you'd do on your computer regularly and figure out how to do it on a terminal. IRC is THE place to get help on linux from.
Tyler Martinez
Not inherently so. A lot of AUR stuff is on Github and just more easily manageable when installed as a package.
Adrian King
Ah.. I can't really program at all. I just spent an hour the other day making a basic calculator in C with major help from a friend. I guess I'll save it for a few years from now.
Christopher Jenkins
>implying being on github adds security
Parker Jackson
Why does Mint forget the set wallpaper folder and are my desktop shortcuts gone after a reboot?
Austin Smith
Because Mint is trash. Uninstall it.
Hunter Rodriguez
Ah, no. I wasn't implying that. I just meant to say that a lot of AUR packages are from other places and just made more accessible, and that it's not exactly a shady place.
Have you had issues with the AUR, or at least heard of some? I understand on paper why you'd be concerned, but I'm just wondering why you're taking it so seriously.
Hunter Stewart
His complaints are DE-dependent. I would never recommend Mint either, but switching your distro is rarely necessary.
Colton Jones
>why you're taking it so seriously. Not him but, >why are you taking security seriously? :^)
Noah Ortiz
>Not him but,
Carter Johnson
Security should definitely be taken seriously, but most of the AUR is free software, as is Arch itself. I don't think it's all that insecure. Maybe I'm the one in the wrong here, though.
Kayden Howard
We all have to start from somewhere.
Joseph Wilson
>oh no, he called me out for being a retard, better tell him to go to reddit
Alexander Cruz
Indeed. On that note, do you have any other books you'd recommend that a beginner? I haven't been studying all that much lately, but I really would like to become a programmer someday, and I've got a lot of free time these days.
Colton Mitchell
specifying you're not someone else only even makes sense in a place where we're anonymous. what's it got to do with reddit?
Evan Jones
>oh no, he called me out for being a retard, better tell him to go to facebook
Blake Walker
>On that note, do you have any other books you'd recommend that a beginner? I changed what I was gonna say partway through
*to a beginner
Jayden Phillips
there is literally nothing wrong with being a redditor
Carson Cox
what is the most portable way to play a sound file? aplay? paplay? ffplay? mplayer?
Hunter Parker
Mac has a ton of VM software you should just use to install w/e linux distro you want instead of physically deleting/reclaiming space on your OSX drive(s).
I learned from reading: How Linux Works, 2nd Edition K&R 2nd edition (short book) The Unix Programming Environment (short book, awesome and still relevant esp about sed/awk/grep filters) CS:APP, which is a modern compsci text I can't shill hard enough because it's so good csapp.cs.cmu.edu/
And The Art of Unix Programming by ESR which covers Berkely SD plus Linux that I had to read for an OS course in school.
Aaron Adams
so far for friendly and helpful...
Gavin Watson
mpv anyone who doesn't have mpv installed doesn't deserve anything
Matthew James
>what is the most portable way to play a sound file? copy it to a mp3 player and play it
Bentley Fisher
then you should not feel insulted, nor anyone else, when someone tells you to go back to l leddit
Noah Jackson
>oh no, he called me out for being a retard, better tell him to go to googeplus !answers
Anthony Moore
Continue learning C, it is a good beginner language because it teaches you all the details so when you move onto a higher level language you have a huge appreciation for the heavy lifting it does.
First you learn to program, then you learn how to program Unix/Linux whatever. Operating systems are like one big library with signals you can use to write your userland programs but you need to know how to even use a library first:
When you're done that you can just pick up K&R and the book in the OP
Jayden Stewart
>oh no, he called me out for being a retard, better tell him to go to yahoo!answers !guestbook
Isaiah White
aplay used to be good, but I've been seeing it less and less in distros. I still have nightmares from when PA was cancer so I avoid it. ffplay might be the best answer, and you should update that mplayer to mpv.
Wyatt Green
>>oh no, he called me out for being a retard, better tell him to go to geocities!guestbook
Jason Bell
I want to install a custom keyboard layout, I have the file but I have a problem with the last part. >this is an XML file and the format is mostly // self-explanatory Well not so much for me, how do I exactly edit it?
Here's the text from the keyboard layout file, the other part of it are just the keysettings.
// Dvorak interational extended keyboard layout for linux // version 1.01 // arjenvankol.com/dvorak.php // // Install instructions: // // Copy this file to your /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc directory. // You may need root privileges to do so. // // Add the following line to /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst // // dvorak_intl Dvorak international extended // // In order to make the keyboard layout available in GNOME, // you should also modify /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml // accordingly (this is an XML file and the format is mostly // self-explanatory).
Jacob Martin
Awesome! Thank you for the list. I'll start downloading them.
Joseph Walker
How to compile mpv manually without fucking up? I only know basic shit like configure, make, make install, but mpv seems a bit more complex.
tl;dr somone give me a tl;dr fon compiling mpv for retards
