>Linux will never be free of SystemD >Linux will never be free of X >Linux will never be free of Pulseaudio >Linux will never be "free" as in freedom
What hope can a common user have, if even grand open source projects like Linux get hijacked and derailed over time?
Elijah Carter
>Linux will never be free of systemd But it is. Devuan exists. >Linux will never be free of X But wayland works well with GNOME >Linux will never be free of Pulseaudio But it's fine >Linux will never be free as in freedom linux-libre
Ryder Brown
But a lot of those actually are free even by Stalin standards.
Aaron Hall
>devuan >common user does_not_compute.tiff >But wayland works well with GNOME Gnome is absolute trash, and literally everybody shuns it, because it is an uncustomizable piece of shit that also hogs RAM
Xavier Hughes
Keep your autism in check, NEET. Deal with the following facts: 1. There is nothing wrong with systemd, you can use the Linux kernel in your system without systemd too. 2. Wayland already ships by default in GNOME. KDE is soon to follow. Tizen is pushing wayland on their devices and Unity will move to wayland. gtk3 and Qt5 onwards are fully wayland supported. 3. See 1. Change systemd to pulseaudio 4. Download Linux-Libre
Jonathan Edwards
>hogs the ram Maybe on some shitty soc with 24MB or ram. Why the hell do you care if a de takes 300MB OF RAM? What do you use your computer for? >oh wait, this is Sup Forums You shitpost from some stupid laptop bought from bwst buy with 4-8GB of ram and your batching about 300MB? BTFO T F O
Adrian Ross
Windows will never be free. Mac OS will never be legally free of Apple products.
Christian Brown
>linux will never be free
just like windows, its mentor
Jackson Mitchell
void+linux-libre.
Wyatt Morales
We must make free software great again. Where do we start?
Christopher Thomas
Install Gentoo (no, really)
Isaac Gray
Rekt negroid
Jacob Myers
OK M$, take your pills now. Everything will be alright.
Angel Price
Where did you get the idea that I was an MS Poojit?
Thomas Moore
>never not sure. i bet people said the same about nextstep
Nathan Thompson
>2017 >still using gnu+linux >not using freebsd
Mason Nguyen
Come to the *BSD side
Wyatt Price
Will Xfce ever move to Wayland?
Carson Torres
>tfw i3 hasn't been ported to Wayland
Connor Howard
10/10 funny cause is true, but still the best OS, bet windows is the same GUI manager since 98se it just doesn't have a name because you can't change it
Isaac Hughes
Why do you fucking care? You're not a programmer, these things have no impact on your computer.
Jonathan Anderson
It is being ported to gtk3
Ian Wood
Programmers aren't impacted by this too. OP is being a hipster
Lincoln Ortiz
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Jordan Ortiz
That's great, is GTK3 Wayland? I didn't know that GTK is a display server
Mason Ortiz
Systemd, Pulseaudio and X are free, as in freedom, software. Kill yourself.
Jack Martin
>GNU will never be free of Linux
Oliver Richardson
Most importantly there will never be a distro that can actually replace Windows or OS X without being a huge compromise for the sake of not using Windows/OS X.
Lucas Adams
gtk got wayland support since gtk3
Austin Butler
>Sup Forums will never be free of shitposts >Sup Forums will never be free of autists >Sup Forums will never be free of shills
Dominic Gonzalez
/thread
Cooper Parker
> Unity will move to wayland. You mean Mir.
Kayden Evans
They didn't want to, use Sway instead.
Robert Hill
>all dem butthurt botnet shills itt delicious tears
Blake Evans
>what is macOS
James Morris
>macos >free as in freedom >inb4 muh colonel that's not even true
Caleb Peterson
>Linux will never be free of SystemD What is gentoo and slackware? They use OpenRC and BSD init scripts. Other distros allow you to uninstall the default systemd.
>Linux will never be free of X Wait for wayland to mature or just use framebuffers and terminal for everything
>Linux will never be free of Pulseaudio ALSA still exists
>Linux will never be "free" as in freedom Linux-libre
Isaac Roberts
>Other distros allow you to uninstall the default systemd. Not really, if you try then it also uninstalls every single package and you can't install anything.
>wayland to mature Wayland is critically flawed by design and there is not a single viable implementation right now (they're all incredibly buggy and unusable).
>ALSA While it is objectively the best option, it's still shit. For example, no per-application audio streams. However it gives the clearest sound and has the least bugs right now.
Jason Cook
>Wayland is critically flawed by design explain
Eli Taylor
>using Linux as a personal operating system
You're literally doing it wrong. It will forever be a fucking mess. Its best suited for specific devices and tasks only. Not as a general use personal OS. For that, just use Windows 7 or macOS.
Jason Gonzalez
my sides! >mfw GNU has been the better desktop OS for years already >mfw with the new versions of homosex and wangblows, it will probably not change anytime soon
Kevin Martin
Linux - Never Free.
David Campbell
It's free as in you-can-run-photoshop-if-you-want-to-dom
Owen Ramirez
>Linux will never be free of X maybe GNU should've actually finished hurd so they could've worked on that lisp based windowing system stallman was talking about
Adam Sullivan
>>mfw GNU has been the better desktop OS for years already
No, it really hasn't. All distros are some level of real shit. Does Linux still kill SSDs?
Lincoln Perry
>lisp based windowing system this level of autism is why GNU is only at 2%
Lincoln Hill
no care I just care if it wekrs and its not to intromisive to my routine Example: Gnome was forcing me to play their game, now their are in my trash
Aaron Williams
It never did, unlike wangblows. Lmao.
Gavin Diaz
>Linux will never be free of SystemD DUDE sysvini/busybox init/openrc/upstart LMAO >Linux will never be free of X DUDE tty LMAO >Linux will never be free of Pulseaudio DUDE alsa LMAO >Linux will never be "free" as in freedom DUDE linux-libre/deblob.sh LMAO
Nolan Fisher
I warned you about Red Hat
It's too late
Parker Russell
>not embracing systemd and pulseaudio >not realizing that widespread Wayland adoption is around the corner
The year of the Linux desktop has never been so close. For once, it isn't a giant clusterfuck of broken shit on the desktop.
Noah Baker
no you didn't shill
Dylan Baker
Because they don't sell their own stuff. Stallman said himself that people can sell shit and found companies. The only criterium is that the software respects the user's freedom.
The freetard communist community is the problem. Stallman is basically the privacy advocate version of Gates and Jobs
Luke Garcia
LINUX IS JUST THE KERNEL.
Alexander Carter
Hopefully never, I like being able to use it on freebsd
Dylan Brooks
>>Sup Forums will never be free of autists Then it literally wouldn't be Sup Forums. It would be consumer whore shithole.
Only autists care about creepy nerd shit like GNU/Linux, programming (except "apping") and Free Software.
Jaxon Sullivan
Gates and Jobs actually got shit done though How widespread is HURD again?
Jayden Martinez
>uncustomizable
why is that bad? so it's harder to get points in desktop threads?
Gavin James
>>Linux will never be free of SystemD >what is openRC