Sound levels on movies

I have been downloading films for years and something that is really annoying is that universally the volume is far too low. I don't mean the voice/action is different, I mean I usually have to have my speakers turned up to twice the level of music, YouTube etc just to have it match.
I download from sites like rlsbb and whatever torrent I find on piratebay and use VLC to play them.
Does anyone else experience this and why is this the case!???

It's because you dl shit encodes

And learn how to take a screenshot

Yeah sure, all of the 2000+ downloads have been shit encodes
Try again with a proper explanation thanks

Also noticed in kodi but only on some streams-noticeably the latest episode of grand tour where I had to max my speakers

>using VLC and TPB
and

>688MB movie

And you dont know why the audio sucks, seriously? You download shit encodes.

What's wrong with piratebay occasionally? Who gives a shit where the file comes from

Now I'd understand that view if I was complaining about the quality of the audio but I'm not. I just tried a 720 and 1080 download and they both have matching audio levels

That's still not answering the question - why are seemingly all releases so quiet?

lel, you're not helping yourself. Video resolution doesnt have anything to do with audio quality. What you want to check is the bitrate. Are you trolling, or are you seriously this dumb?

because they recorded 5.1 but obviously its playing as stereo

look up dynamic range control settings if you play discs

>this

bare minimum when i download a movie its atleast 13 gigs, and even then i can see artifacting and hear the lower audio quality.

Its gotten to the point i just buy fucking blu rays because most pirates are ok with hurr 2 channel audio 1080p 800mb files.

Which i guess is ok if you watching it on your shit tier macbook but thats shits far from ok when watching on a 60 inch tv and a nice surround sound setup

Your movies probably have 2 channel AAC audio with low bitrate judging from those filesizes.

What? You can find good 5.1 or 7.1 DTS encodes even on public trackers.

DD and DTS have a wide volume range. Use audio compression to level out the difference between the loudest and softest sounds. Music is typically highly compressed these days thus the volume disparity between music and movies.

Kodi has a compression slider labeled as audio amplification, it works really well to normalize volume.

yea but the video quality still isnt up to blu ray quality half the time. The only ones if found that are comparable are around 50 gigs for the file

>something that is really annoying is that universally the volume is far too low
Movies in general are going to be "quieter" than most other content.
To put that in more definite terms, the dynamic range of movies in general is going to be much wider than most music and other spoken word content. The movies, music, podcasts, or whatever are subject to the same peak normalization, so the movies will seem quietest.

>my speakers turned up to twice the level of music
Without an actual decibel scale, this isn't very telling.

>The only ones I found ... are...50 gigs

That is because those are 1:1 BluRay rips.

you're probably playing 5.1 over stereo. Find a setting in your media player to downmix audio to stereo.

Obviously not, my point was the lower quality videos would have similarly lower quality audio streams to minimise the file size and I was trying to show it's not to do with the quality of the audio that I have a problem with.

I don't have a problem with it being 2 channel, if I wanted 5.1 then I would be looking for 5.1 sources thank you

Thank you for the tip about kodi I'll try it out. The difference between the loudest and softest sounds is not bad its the total volume

I get that they may be a bit quieter and yes a db scale would help!! Without sounding too simple, with windows on half volume and a logitech 2.1 setup I have that on 25%volume for nearly all youtube, music, porn etc. For any of these films I have to have it at least 60%.
If I downloaded a youtube video it plays at the same volume as on the site

I'm hardly the only person downloading this stuff so I can't see why it's not mentioned more. It's not my settings as I've tried them on plenty of different setups

>Obviously not, my point was the lower quality videos would have similarly lower quality audio streams to minimise the file size and I was trying to show it's not to do with the quality of the audio that I have a problem with.

You do know 1080p movies can have shit audio, right? Look up YIFY.
Alternatively, 720p can have better audio than some 1080p movies. of course the filesize will be larger.
Point being, resolution is not a good indicator of audio quality, filesize is.

True I understand that, I was just trying a couple of different examples from different sources quickly

Audio quality does not equal volume however. If I go and download some 144p video off youtube or playback something i've filmed on my phone, it's louder than any of these films.

So the question remains!!

Torrent uploaders usually sacrifice audio quality for video quality and file size.

If the movies aren't 12gb+ then it's a shit encode.

Shouldnt the red line be in the middle of the average level on the right chart?

>download movie or TV show
>sound is not synced, off by less than 100ms
>you try to manually correct it
>can never get it perfect

fuck whoever is responsible for this shit, happens far more than it should

Haha yeah had that a few times, VLC has the adjuster and usually takes a sec to sort it

You need to stop downloading Yify-tier shit.

If it's 1080p and below 5-30GB don't bother.
Some videos like Pixar movies can have proper quality and still only be 4GB but then you're almost always ending up with badly encoded stereo that hasn't volume corrected center channel, you know where the vocal channel is.

Look at the info before downloading and make sure it's 6 channel or more.
The rest you can fine tune with equalizers and such on your own if you don't have 5.1.

if they would use makeMKV that would not be a problem

are you like dense?

it doesnt matter if you've downloaded 10,000 movies or 100,000 movies if you never payed attention to the bit rate and kept downloading movies with shitty encodes

The volume of movies should be low/different from music, because of cinematics.

These. Movies are generally mixed to preserve the difference between the loudest and quietest sounds unlike most music which is just mixed to be a nearly constant volume. It has absolutely nothing to do with the encoding bitrate.

>I can't see why it's not mentioned more.
You'll see it come up from time to time where people talk about movies or classical music. Thing is, most headphones people use are so sensitive there's no problem with just turning the volume up more they won't think anything of it. This leads to a lot of really bad amateur mixing with levels way too low also but that's another rant.

This.

Everyone who criticised encodes for this in this thread is wrong and probably confused audio volume compression/limiting/normalization with lossy audio compression.

Any good encode leaves the dynamic range exactly as it is. If you're normalizing in any way in your encode pipeline, you're doing it wrong (or you're deliberately going for TV/radio/YouTube).

If it bothers you, just enable normalizing and be done with it

wow, you're so clueless it's almost a piece of art

Please explain in detail how the bitrate = the volume. Not the dynamic range but the overall volume

2 channel aac would work how he's wanting you stupid fucks.. OP it's cuz they encode shitty 5.1 and 7.1 without upping channels