These threads are for discussion of all things Cyberpunk, from movies, TV, websites, games, and even current events. Related topics range from fashion, to personal security and anonymity, to alternative and creative hardware, and much more.
>What is cyberpunk? Cyberpunk is a genre of science fiction set in a lawless subculture of an oppressive society dominated by computer technology.
Cyberpunk is less about the technology and more about the dystopian future. Computers and tech just happens to be the setting.
I was into it in my teens, but I've since realized that kind of future is never coming because the world doesn't work that way. It's much easier to have 3 people in a room lie about something than it is to orchestrate some clandestine server infiltration(which was probably made possible by some dumbass responding to a phishing e-mail instead of some guy in an alley way jacked into an ethernet port fed to a garbage can).
Owen Morris
We're too schway to fall for your lies, sinister megacorp shill
John Johnson
I'm one of the "we're living in it now camp" but with a lot less neon lights and seedy back alleys.
I'm into making my own tech that either doesn't connect to the net, or if it does making it without backdoored parts.
Easton Watson
>tfw your too old and irrelevant to care Enjoy the future- we built it.... 4U
James Campbell
Old tech is the way to go. Anything produced before ~2005 won't be affected by planned obsolescence as badly
William Sanchez
Old tech that still works is by definition reliable. The power bill for that pic must be immense.
I'd like a HP Superdome for a server, it has that megacorp look to it.
Logan Long
>pastebin.com/q2AnW0rT Is that the list of things updated with all the contributions the last few months??
Dylan Garcia
Yeah, those are the recent ones. I'm planning to make separate pastes based on category. I hope to do that today, if I'm not busy.
Kevin Phillips
That looks like Gilfoyle's Bitcoin mining rig
Xavier Edwards
Yeah, we were on usch a good way to having a totalitarian dystopian future. But Trump had to come and make America great again.
Or only hope right now is that we have a re election and Soros sponsored Hillary and the Corrupt DNC can continue destroying the world.
Nathaniel Carter
Is a live usb of tails with vpn, tor, vpn at a public wifi the best way to be user right now?
Would using it repeatedly on my own eeepc on public wifi defeat the purpose?
Christian Martin
have you not been following obabo's setup for no privacy allowed?
Using a vpn is equivilentto having a warrantto search your shit now, and nsa just turned over all their raw data to the rest of govt
Sebastian Perry
OK, there is a lot more to add, I have contributed a fair bit over the last few months.
There are still gaping holes, like literature. You could subdivide that into periods like pre-cp: bester, Brunner etc Golden age: Sterling, Gibson, Shirley etc Silver age: Neal Stephenson Bronze age: Richard Morgan etc
BTW the Cyberpunk entries on Wackypedia is pretty dire. I used to contribute but these days the politics just isn't worth it.
Mason Reed
Got it. Any other categories?
Xavier Brown
Not everyone lives in the US you know.
Have you read "Hack the Spew?" It kind of deals with that scenario.
Make a 2D plot X axis is era (golden age etc.) Y-axis is main style (noir, militaristic (Kadrey), psychedelic (Jeff Noon with Vurt), horror (Shirley), etc.
I remember someone wrote that Charles Dickens was proto-cyberpunk since he dealt with the ugly underside of British industrialisation.
Also "Cheap Truth" is a definite must to read, it is what got the "movement" underway before it got the label Cyberpunk.
Justin Lewis
When you say "2D", you mean this, right?
Noah Martinez
A large collection of older resources: streettech.com/bcp/BCPgraf/ There used to be a lot of zines, I have one issue of CNS but these are really, really hard to find these days.
James Roberts
Yup, that's right. Will look a lot cooler than just a list.
Gotta go now, back in 6 hours,. Hope /CYB/ remains then.
Camden Butler
The first Watch Dogs wasn't strictly cyberpunk, but it dealt heavily with privacy, which I admire.
Brandon Torres
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Joshua Mitchell
I was just bumping the thread, user.
Sup Forums is garbage.
Brandon Rodriguez
Fuck off.
Caleb Anderson
>playing pseudo intellectual games portraying a cancer mainstream view of le hagging culdujre I suggest you follow the advice you're giving me
Matthew Green
Who is running a open i2p hotspot? Was thinking to start running one just need a AP.
Looks like the thread is dying. I'll work on the pastebin stuff tonight if I can't sleep. Or tomorrow when I get bored.
Night, /cyb/.
Camden Scott
goodnight.
Zachary Taylor
you guys really ought to consider changing the name of your thread. maybe it's just me but cyb makes me think of cybering/cybersex which is apparently not what you guys are discussing. just thought I'd toss that out there
Does anybody have that article talking about why people should care about keeping their browsing history safe from businesses?
I remember reading it here, but I can't find it in the Sup Forums or /cyb/ pastebins
Luke Cox
youtu.be/eil_1j72LOA The Julian Assange show is essential. Heres a good example episode. Well worth you time.
Jaxson Anderson
Meant to quote OP.
Nathaniel King
I was reading the cyberpunk manifesto and lurking some threads in /cyber/ and it ocurred to me.... Shouldn't there be some sort of cyberpunk philosophy? I mean something like a set of values as to what would be cyberpunk. Not really a guideline, but more like putting together the ideas of the community of what is cyberpunk, what includes it, what excludes it, what doesn't matter. You know these threads where newbies come and ask "how to be a cyberpunk", asking about aesthetics, OS, programming, soldering, political stances, and so on. Some sort of document with a few opinions that we can mostly agree on about what can be cyberpunk. For example, it would include stuff as to cryptography and ditching the corps (M$), and also stuff like in pic related.
Shall we?
Brody Kelly
(OP) >IRC when will the irc come back, the rizon channel hasnt existed in any real capacity for years, in fact, its not even on rizon's channel list at all at the moment
Elijah Torres
I agree, that's why I've been posting videos to the cyberpunk manifesto and related material
That is a text only version. I have never seen the graphical version though it should be out there.
Juan Harris
i need some website ideas i want to make something interesting
Easton Johnson
i don't have any ideas, but i believe in you user
Thomas Jenkins
>Suggestions There is also the Japanese side anime/mange: GItS, Yokohama Kaidasho Kikou movie: Rubber's Lover, 864 Pinoccio, Tetsuo the Iron Man
From proto-cyberpunk movies the number one movie is indubitably Blade Runner. It hit the mark to precisely that Wm Gibson ran out of the cinema, thinking his entire novel was anticipated by the movie.
Benjamin Bell
Have you added the Usenet News newsgroups? The news:alt.cyberpunk groups and the news:alt.cyberpunk.* has some sporadic traffic and is a gold mine of stuff.
Also, anyone found the FutureCulture archive? That was a hurricane of a mailing list, 400 messages - on a quiet day.
Levi Ramirez
Add to anime Cowboy Bebop, Metropolis (2001 animated film), and perhaps Patlabor.
As for movies Æon Flux (2005), Enemy of the State (1998), Johnny Mnemonic (1995), Nirvana (1997), WarGames: The Dead Code (2008), and the RoboCop movies.
Usenet is harsh for newbies user, does it worth it? Having to pay and the difficult it is to set a client takes away the attractiveness.
If only a free account existed.
Julian Robinson
There is one in freenode, not sure how is related.
Nolan Peterson
Just use eternal September or something if you don't want to/can't pay
Josiah Phillips
there's not a long list of games which deserve oblivion along with every single person involved and I'm sure Watchdoggies is near the top. It's pathetic how they got something and repackaged it for mainstream consuming trying to pass it as cyberpunk or hacker culture. It's a poor man GTA V with no story and lame game mechanics that turns into a really boring grind fest of doing the same shit over and over and over in a dull world where everything looks the same. Feel fucking ashamed for even installing this shit.
Liam Lee
what is this? At work right now, so can't look into this
Josiah James
seconding this question
Liam Hughes
Good stuff there, user.
That reminds me that the classic Metropolis (1927) is also proto-cyberpunk.
Eli Moore
anyone else think /pol is very cyb?
Xavier Moore
>Usenet is harsh for newbies user, does it worth it? Well, Sup Forums isn't roses only. Usenet News has a strong academic tradition combined with openness for pseudonymous posters and anonymity. In my experience on Usenet, as long as your post is worth a few minutes it takes to read it, you will be OK. If on the other hand people ask for their five minutes back you should take the hint.
>Having to pay and the difficult it is to set a client takes away the attractiveness. The news clients are user friendly, just choosy about who the friends are. With "trn" it is sufficiently user friendly. Keep in mind that posting was heavy and in order to drink from the fire hose you need a study tool. And trn is such a tool: powerful, configurable, efficient and unforgiving.
>If only a free account existed. First open a free shell account: shells.red-pill.eu/ SDR and Nyx,net are good. These normally have Usenet News access. Nyx has a strong tradition for openness and defends anonymity and has faced Secret Service. Seriously.
Jace Bailey
in the same way all of Sup Forums is we're never going mainstream everyone knows, almost no cares, just like death metal
Easton Adams
Cheap Truth was a Zine made by Bruce Sterling et al, all pseudonymous so we don't know all the names. Basically they were sniping the the established SciFi authors of the day (early 80s), claiming a renewal of a stagnant genre was way overdue. They also promoted their own work, the group at the time was just known as the Movement. Later they were called Cyberpunk.
Originally there was a lot of graphics but the archives are text only.
You could say this is the manifesto for the cyberpunk authors - Stirling, Gibson, Shirley, Shiner, Rucker, and probably a few others (Cadigan perhaps?).
It is quite work safe.
Jackson Sullivan
Hoping this thread will be alive when I return tomorrow. Meanwhile, a Cyberpunk interpretation by the inimitable Mike Maihack, or Cyberpink as he calls it. Pic.
Thought I'd share this, it's about Stuxnet; It's discovery by the security industry and how they pieced together what it was designed to do as well as interviews with Washington insiders and NSA/Mossad operatives. Has some pretty cool cyberpunky visuals as well. Hopefully non UK residents can watch it. I have no fucking idea.
Luke Evans
britfag here, that's cool it's on the bbc but whatever to them.
Gabriel Jackson
You can torrent it also for better viewing pleasure. Stuxnet is just the beginning we are now at war with cybers. It's just a free for all at the moment.
Zachary Davis
Yeah, Stuxnet was like what, 6-7 years ago? Fuck knows what kind of capability they have now. With the Snowden leaks, the DNC hack, Yahoo and other major corporate network compromises, the Internet of Things botnet et al. Just what is in the public domain is pretty scary as it stands, so what is classified but possible and currently on going operations must be even worse. I think it's safe to say, if "they" want access to a computer system, they will have access to that computer system. Going forwards, we live in interesting but terrifying times.
Chase Ross
is digital art will survive at /cyb/ age.?
William Moore
we are in /cyb/ age, senpai start hoarding all of the digital art you can
Ayden Brooks
word, Sup Forums is anti-cyb
Zachary Thomas
yep that's pretty much why symantec (who happily promote the film on twitter and of course 2 of there researchers are featured in it) have changed from a protection model stance to a not if but when and so are focusing on intrusion discovery and minimizing damage
cant remember where i read about it but most likely twitter.
Blake Jones
i think "beyondtrust" believe this too, judging from one of the profs they had do a talk in a recent webinar however that could be perceived as scaremongering and shilling as the second half was about there software but none the less it did look like it would be effective although enterprise level stuff
David Lewis
Bumping with a nice pic. Yersinia, a network vulnerability scanner.
What other unix tools you think are cyberpunk?
Isaiah Lewis
>capability they have now Word on the net is a biological equivalent. Look up "Genetic warfare", say on Wikipedia. Unpleasant stuff to say the least.
It gives a certain feel of purpose, access to all information in a way more open, but more importantly, more structured.
I bet some of the anons lurking this thread are thinking in gopher, usenet, and BBS, as things of the past, but what if that kind of networking can be brought back to do as the internet originally was meant for and share information we really want to?
Forums like Sup Forums can give a top of things, but for longer conversations in a more focused way, exchanging large files, or even text files, are harder to do anonymously.
Maybe this imply a sort of serving all in boilerplates and spoonfeeding the newbie and the casual, but also implies if such services were as easy as to post in Sup Forums they'll get as many people back into this as Sup Forums itself does.
Just consider, sites like facebook actually corrupted modern communications with their cluttered interface and only make easier to the much toxic personalities to succeed. Anonymous filesharing with a spartan interface is in my opinion the cure.
Liam Johnson
>soldering I'd be a bit interested in this. Got a circuit board that needs a few capacitors replaced but don't want to do it as my first project so it's been sitting around for a long while.
Michael Myers
There should definitely be an entry on cyberpunk technology, especially since CRISPR/Cas9 could change the world as much as the net did in the 80's.
Obvious tech topics are communications including networking and radio, electronics, wiring, navigation, ESR, ECM etc.
Camden Cruz
i think galaxy express was best cyber punk animation
Thomas Perry
>2017 >IoT botnet ravages the web creating a constantly moving blackout zone. >social unrest in the streets and protests force goverments to use state force to supress the population >massive effort by corp and gov actors is taken to roll out highly restricted network as replacement for the web we know today >2018 >the last place where resistance could form has been eradicated
Dominic Powell
Oh god, yes, make these happen.
Cyberpunk diy is our salvation. Imagine what Sup Forums could've been with this instead of what is now.
Jack Rogers
slurm network monitor? Anything with ncurses really..
Yeah, ncurses is going to be my first incursion in programming because damn it looks sexy.
>tfw learning to code just for that
Angel Walker
Lots of cool stuff is available, just look at rtl-sdr.com, Adafruit etc. Also Raspberry Pi comes with new hardware regularly. And even if you don't want to make your own receiver, you can always use websdr.org/
Elijah Rivera
what skills are essential for a cyberpunk world
i'm a mathematician, how useful would i be in a post-dystopian dystopia?
Cameron Hernandez
Shooting, lockpicking, hacking, electronics, climbing, first aid, unarmed combat. Maths is fucking useless.
Justin Morales
cryptography and hacking are math oriented along with some electronics. also some basic first aid requires conversions and do not forget that long distance shooting requires math
Knowledge is power. That is even more true today than when the ancient Greeks made this expression. Thus the ability to gain new knowledge and the insight to actually use this knowledge, will be invaluable.
That does not mean we are talking about the end of the world. Just the job market these days means you should assume a lot of job changes throughout your working life, moreover there will probably be major career changes too for most people. I have changed career 3 times so far in addition to job changes. Without the continuous ability to learn new things I would have ended up in the junk yard of the job market.
Jeremiah Bell
thanks user
Isaiah Wilson
Speaking of end of world of disaster events, how about radio communication and other ways of communication in dystopian world.
Carter Perez
> cryptography If you're going to reinvent the wheel. > hacking Not really. It's either skidding with Metasploit or Assembler if you're going 0day.
In Wm Gibson's books not everyone is in the gutters fighting for scraps. Some are movers and shakers, others are executives. Unless we see a societal collapse on the scale of the collapse of the Roman empire, this will remain so. And even if, say, the US were to collapse, skilled people could get work elsewhere, like Japan, Korea, Australia, New Zealand etc.
Gavin Collins
wow you are incredibly dense and have no idea what either of those fields entail
servalproject.org/ 'Simply put, Serval is a telecommunications system comprised of at least two mobile phones that are able to work outside of regular mobile phone tower range due thanks to the Serval App and Serval Mesh. Some of the most exciting benefits of this are: