Trump attacking Internet privacy: will gut rules against user-tracking

techdirt.com/articles/20170104/10021436408/ad-industry-wants-new-fcc-broadband-privacy-rules-gutted-because-uh-free-speech.shtml

>We've noted repeatedly how Trump's incoming telecom advisors have made it very clear they not only want to gut net neutrality, but defund and defang the FCC. That means rolling back all manner of other recent FCC policies, like the agency's recently approved broadband privacy rules. They really were relatively fundamental; simply requiring that ISPs not only make it clear what's being collected and who it's being sold to, but requiring they provide working opt-out tools to broadband subscribers.

>ISPs and the advertising and marketing industry are already getting a running start on rolling back these new privacy rules. In a joint filing by all of the major advertising lobbying and trade associations, the advertising industry this week was quick to submit a petition to the FCC claiming that the new rules aren't necessary because the marketing sector already adheres to a "self-regulatory" regime that delivers all the transparency, choice and benefits that consumers could possibly handle.

>The FCC imposed rules specifically thanks to the lack of competition in the broadband last mile, a lack of competition that lets ISPs and advertisers impose draconian new consumer surveillance policies the consumer can't vote to avoid with their wallet. The FCC was particularly nudged to action by the discovery that Verizon and its ad partners were covertly modifying user packets to track users around the internet.

>At no point did industry, or any of its self-regulatory apparatuses, stop and think they'd taken things a bit too far, which is why the FCC, agree or not, felt it was necessary to lend consumers a hand. The FCC was also concerned about a growing push by some ISPs to make opting out of data collection a pricey, luxury option for consumers, "self-regulatory safeguards" be damned.

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>They really were relatively fundamental; simply requiring that ISPs not only make it clear what's being collected and who it's being sold to,

So why aren't Google/MS/Apple and other companies forced to do the same?

Privacy is dead; get over it.

Because
>fundamental

We needed more, but instead of more we're gonna get even less...

>simply requiring that ISPs not only make it clear what's being collected and who it's being sold to, but requiring they provide working opt-out tools to broadband subscribers.
why does this matter within the context of the internet as a whole

every single website you visit collects every bit of information they can glean from you and then whores it out to the highest bidder constantly

I don't see anything concrete in this article about Trump's position on anything. It's just basically a what-if type of mental masturbation for liberals. All hearsay and not a single fact.

Because ISPs can identify you. They know your address and billing info.

Not saying websites should be allowed to do that, but priorities...

>Because ISPs can identify you. They know your address and billing info.

So do Paypal/Amazon/Google and pretty much any company you buy something from.

considering that the majority of people stay logged into facebook 24/7, combined with IP geolocation, there aren't many websites that can't identify roughly who/where you are

also see
the companies that directly sell you shit already know who you are

But that's your decision, as retarded as it sounds

Sounds like fake news. Hopefully it is.

Again, not saying that shouldn't be addressed, but you're moving the goalposts.

We were pushing for more regulation, but didn't get too far because Americans are scared of "le gommunism!" bogeyman.

Fuck off you reddit nigger. Should I post the pic?

>"le gommunism!" bogeyman.
but Big Brother already collects all our bits

>(((Trump)))

>actually posting the truth
fuck off liberal

Oh, come on. You actually think that even if Trump had the awareness to know what net neutrality is, or the inclination to care, that he would actually take a stand for it—and not just agree with all the corporate stooge Republicans he's surrounded himself with?

It is to laugh, sir.

If all these masturbatory "what-if" scenarios actually play out, I think we'll have bigger problems than advertisers collecting your information.

Treating radiation burns and finding clean non-irradiated water, for starters.

...

this is OP
he is some type of half breed and loves little boys
notice he is still in his parents basement

Who fucking cares.

We have this bullshit nonsense every day. Op's some pissed of black gay jew with an agenda.

Follow the rules of Sup Forums. You know what to do in cases like this.

>I don't care about privacy
Post your SSN card with timestamp.

>damage control
Unsurprising.

I wouldn't use the service if I cared about my privacy that much. No one is forcing you to buy a service from any of these ISP's.

Actually yes, you are forced to have internet these days because pretty much everything is done online.

Why are you spamming? Why are you making the same bullshit thread every day? It's a story written by pissed off libtards.

Anyway, hope you get banned for spam, cucked shithead.

Hello $400/mo 5x512k internet service. Guess I should have worked harder.

Tbh. If you don't own or control the infrastructure or the service you have e assume you're being spied on, always. To assume otherwise and believe in the words of others you're being retarded. This changes nothing

No. Don't like the TOS? Don't buy the product. People have survived millions of years without the internet, you halfbreed

plenty of people still pay bills by mail
what makes you so fucking special

What do you do when there's only one service provider like there is in 90% of the us?

It takes a halfbreed to not understand that humans don't live the way they did in the past. Nowadays we have this thing called "society" that you have to take part in. Once you move out of your parent's house you'll realize that food and shelter aren't handed to you.

>what are monopolies?
>what is corporate lobbying?
>what is customer protection?
You must be either a paid ISP shill or one of their shareholders...

I can only get my W2 emailed to me. They don't print paper copies.

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He's an individualist, he wants to destroy society.

what jewish company do you work for

Look at all this bullshit spam... like clockwork, OP makes these bullshit threads and spreads around FAKE NEWS.

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Anyway, you know what to do in cases such as this, guise.

>>>/global/rules/10

I run IT for a county government in Wyoming.

How many shekels are you getting paid to post this shit every day? Or are you another idiot goy who does it for free?

>People have survived millions of years

human beings have only existed for about 20,000 years you trump-loving dumbfuck

How many counties are in Wyoming?

Have you ever had to do tech support for old boomer men? They hate anything with more than two buttons. Trump is a prime example. The internet is fucked. Enjoy getting hauled in for an (((overdue parking ticket))) when someone imitating you on twitter says something bad about republicans.

I run 14 websites in Pyongyang

This post is hate speech.

More than Utah.

It's not like they are hurting you or anything. These "regulations" or whatever Trump is supposed to destroy haven't even been in place for very long. We never had a problem with any of this before, and I don't see how this is going to change anything now.

>Anything I don't like is fake news.

Nah m8, we've lost our society to the internet

#BanCBDOil

>It's not like they are hurting you or anything

You're right. Cable companies rate limiting Netflix because they want you to buy their crappy cable TV service is fine.

sounds about right
That's why there is no such thing as "fake news"
It's a not-so clever scam by the MM

how will you ever recover?

Trump hired ghandi to do 9/11

>Trump is shutting down the freedoms that his troll supporting base need to continue functioning

Kek. Irony

They just would like Netflix to pay when they use up to 80% of the bandwidth in peak hours.
Why do you like sucking corporate cock?
Why do you want to give huge companies a free ride on the internet?

>media reports Trump's gonna fill his cabinet up with Goldman Sachs kikes
>"i-it's just fake news guys, d-don't worry"
>it happens

>media reports Trump's gonna fill his security and defence offices with war hawks
>"i-it's just fake news guys, d-don't worry"
>it happens

It's starting to get embarrassing for you guys. Just saying.

How dare you use bandwidth you pay for

Ummm... because Netflix isn't overcharging me due to lack of competition or hijacking my DNS queries to serve me ads?

nah m8, now all we will have to pay is $6 to buy the "social media" package per month. Were set .

Nice source, fagit.

I'm surprised Sup Forums is so liberal and leftist compared to the other boards.

Wrong.

There's usually at least 2, and then you can make it 6 if you count mobile ISP's.

$15/month Sup Forums package

Keep pushing the narrative that we are all one person and we all unilaterally approve of each and every presumptive action our Lord Emperor may or may not hypothetically undertake. It's starting to get embarrassing for you guys. Just sayin.

>fagit
why are you using such a derogatory term?

I don't think we're talking about the same America.

Netflix charges you extra money if you want to use HD.

And even if you DO pay the extra money, Netflix will NOT allow you to stream in HD/4k unless it's an "approved" device, that's why Chinese boxes can't do HD netflix even though are more than capable.

Netflix, enemy of you're freedom.

>They just would like Netflix to pay when they use up to 80% of the bandwidth in peak hours.
The customers are already paying for bandwidth.
Can the network not guarantee the bandwidth they state? Maybe they should adjust their prices if it's a problem (it isn't).

$0.25 Facebook message received fee

You sound increasingly nervous.

>They just would like Netflix to pay when they use up to 80% of the bandwidth in peak hours.

They should take some of their revenue and upgrade their infrastructure to actually deliver what they promise to subscribers.

By your logic electric companies should charge light bulb companies extra because they cause more load at night.

It like were getting flooded with leftist shills who post semi- related tech "news" to advance a certain political viewpoint.

>Why do you like sucking corporate cock?

Says the one condoning unlawful practices to eliminate competition.

nice graph labels fuckface

if you only look at 2009 forward for each of those graphs, you see that obama made the country a lot better. and trump is going to crash the growing, stable economy he inherits.

That's a red herring.

No one here's defending Netflix. You, on the other hand, are ACTUALLY defending ISPs.

Sure, Netflix is bad (see stallman.org/netflix.html), but it's not a priority because there's competition and it's not a must-have service.

They keep raising their rates, so they will become a huge monopoly one day just like all the rest of them with corporate cocksuckers like you giving them free shit all along the way. You think NF is your friend or something?

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about right?

I am.

Even by the FCC's own admission, something like 70% of households have at least 2 options for broadband.

Also why are you dismissing mobile ISP's if that's all the average person would need to email/job find ?

>They keep raising their rates, so they will become a huge monopoly one day just like all the rest of them with corporate cocksuckers like you giving them free shit all along the way. You think NF is your friend or something?
Since when is raising rates equivalent to becoming a monopoly?
Netflix growth is already leveling off.
And you still didn't answer my fucking question.
Why does the same bandwidth need to be charged twice?
ISPs are fucking jews.

Cuz people wanna bust a nut in 4k as well as job search for porn actor roles

You sound increasingly bizarre
Says the one making up shit
In spite of Obama.
All he did was double the national debt and put more people on welfare than at any time in history. We have to pay the trillions he put on our credit card sometime, so yes he royally fucked the next guy down the line.

>it's okay guys, there's plenty of options
>here, you can choose between AT&T, Bell or Cricket!

Get out your contract and show me your bandwidth argument. I don't know what you pay for and neither do you.

Glad to learn you agree that capitalism doesn't work since even with plenty of competition malpractice and abuse of customers remain.

trump is already planning a trillion dollar infrastructure bill that will mostly be kickbacks to his friends

obama's spending caused the economy to recover. trump's spending is going to crash the economy. trump made a lot of money off the 2008 crashes and he intends to do it again.

>Even by the FCC's own admission, something like 70% of households have at least 2 options for broadband.

Yeah. a shitty cable company and an even shittier DSL provider both of which see no real consequences if their service sucks.

>Also why are you dismissing mobile ISP's if that's all the average person would need to email/job find ?

Bullshit $15 per gigabyte data caps.

Both of which just serve the last mile and have massive agreements to operate in the same area.

That guy knows jack shit about telecom.

"The Magic Wand"

youtube.com/watch?v=DuhXkCF-L2E

IF IF IF IF IF

youtube.com/watch?v=NKXSgB7MEUU

cnbc.com/2016/07/15/grading-the-obama-economy-by-the-numbers.html

Obama shits all over 4th amendment during his last week in the office.

engadget.com/2017/01/12/obama-expands-the-nsas-ability-to-share-data-with-other-agencie/

One of Obamas big thing was a transportation bill that did jack shit. Keep making up increasingly bizarre timelines for Trump. Also: Proofs?

ATT/VZ/T-Mo/Sprint

4 Mobile ISP's, and a ton of MVNO's. Mobile internet is more than enough for the poor jobless faggots you pretend to care about.

>trump is already planning a trillion dollar infrastructure bill that will mostly be kickbacks to his friends

Which is the same thing that republicans were butt hurt about Obama doing and Hillary proposing. Funny how when a progressive suddenly turned conservative does it, everything is fine.

This isn't Brazil or India, we get to audit every $

Internet plans have guaranteed minimum bandwidth. That's how they are labeled and that's how the ISP charges you.

What a cuck

The last mile is usually where the problem is because the gear is all 15 years old. Why waste money on new infrastructure when they can give themselves all bonuses? What are the subscribers going to do? Take their business elsewhere?

You have no proof this is even a thing, or even has any type of Congressional support. Quit shitposting, it's embarrassing.

ATT/VZ/T-Mo/Sprint

All with usage caps.