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>2017
>Sup Forums still using ext4?

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Sailfish OS is actually kinda cool. Uses Wayland, systemd and btrfs

Is btrfs the linux duke nuken forever

It's seriously still not finished after like 10 years

I use ext4 on my desktop and xfs on my server. I wouldn't trust btrfs with any important data as it still has tons of data corruption issues.

so you're saying when it's finished it's gonna be a monumentally disappointing piece of shit?

As an android user, I am jealous ;_;

I use a mix of ZFS and XFS

ZFS for data I want to keep safe
XFS for data I want to access fast

It already is

btrfs is the laughinstock of the filesystem community

ntfs iz lyf

ext4 is tried and true so I still use it for my OS. I dont want to risk my shit getting corrupted.

So if ext4 still the most reliable and overall best filesystem ? Im open to trying something new if its good but ext4 has never failed me.

> linuxtards are so deprived of good software that they have the delusion the filesystem matters at all

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

no only that, loonix has been copycatting NTFS for years.

keep on trolling baybeh

Probably

someone will wip something better together in a shorter amount of time and make btrfs look like retard shit

...

>look mommy, I'm using an unusual file system!
>do I get good boy points now?

Theme, window manager?

Looks nice user. Pretty sure that's gnome

> I don't have any third party software of merit, let's play with filesystems, even if they were approximately perfect for my personal needs 10 years go

Linux, the meme OS

ZFS is overall the safest, but it's bloated and RAM-hungry. Only use it for data storage. Main computing should continue to use based EXT4, yes.

ZFS is also shit on Linux

I like the look of that terminal emulator?

What OS is that with what icon pack and theme? Quite like it

ITT: I can't cancerate your thread by baiting by triggering on frontends, so I came here to spout without fact-checking that your kernel lacks third-party packages!

No (You)s for you

Nice

It's zsh with Oh my ZSH (github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh) and the agnoster theme.

I have no idea about the terminal theme. It's GNOME with dash to dock and likely the Paper icon theme.

What is the recommended filesystem? I've heard journaling filesystems like ext4 is not recommended if you're going to use commands like shred.

btrfs might be better than ext4 in some aspects, but it's not fully stable yet, and I don't like the idea of needing to defrag.

>2016 + 1
>using anything but ext4
Topkek, enjoy the buggy crap you call a """file system"""


Your best bet is the (suprise) default choice aka ext4. Don't listen to dumb ricer babbies like OP, they need to be contrarian. And
>shred
is a waste of time, no one cares about your 2d anime loli porn collection.

How does ZoL compare?

As well as LoL

Has ZFS any users on Linux?

I'm gonna wait for bcachefs to fully support transparent compression and mainlined and then switch over. The other COW FSes seem like a clusterfsck.

I use ZoL but it's plagued by many issues

What does a soft lockup mean?

I wanted to try btrfs for its snapshots feature and also RAIDs (I wanted to establish a software RAID 1), but now that I've heard it's buggy I'm not really sure...

What would you recommend?

>btrfs
>cant sustain raid5/6

Bbut user, RAID 1 is pretty enough for home usage.

What OS is this?

Brtfs sounds like a wet fart

who /xfs/ hier

At least use RAID 10

>I wanted to try btrfs for its snapshots feature and also RAIDs (I wanted to establish a software RAID 1), but now that I've heard it's buggy I'm not really sure...
Use ZFS

that's what he meant, user

Yes. I've tried XFS and BTRFS and they won't boot. I used them with Xubuntu on a Thinkpad T400. But somehow EXT3/4 just magically work. I think I'll stick with those.

On Linux? Isn't it buggy on Linux?

No, I don't.

every time i even think about btrfs some fatal regression comes out
>database? virtual machine? firefox? yeah it fragments and starts shitting itself for seconds at a time, just manually defrag daily lol

ext4 is faster for virtual machine disk images,
unless you disable COW in btrfs, which defeats the purpose of btrfs

So: btrfs for /
ext4 for /home and media files

Better than btrfs

Btrfs is trash. The only formats faster than ext4 are ZFS and f2fs.

>ZFS faster than ext4
it really isn't. with ZFS you pay a huge performance penalty for all of its atomicity and copy-on-write guarantees

Thanks.

>systemd
nope

Fuck you OP I literally just spent 30 minutes installing GNOME and configuring to look like yours before I realized that system is absolute dogshit and that no sane human being should ever use it.

Thanks a lot asshole.

i've been using btrfs since 2012

ZFS has always been "accuracy" over speed
it's designed to be used on a big setups with ECC ram and fast, enterprise hard drives
it's not slow /for what it does/, it just does more than your typical small/home setup filesystem

Would you say it is safe enough to use BTRFS at home?

Not without backups, but you should routinely backup anyway.

-- also, i used ZFS before, but it has a couple major drawbacks for me, namely;
- non-linux-compatible memory cache, which mean you're always either going to have a cache that is smaller than it could be, or larger than it should be, not much of a problem if it's a dedicated file server, mind
- ZVOL device count is fixed, you can't, say, turn a 3 disk raidz1 into a 4 disk raidz1 without completely replacing it. hugely inflexible for a home setting

yes, so long as your kernel is recent and you don't use btrfs's raid5/6 modes (you can place btrfs atop mdadm raid5/6 safely)

He still shouldn't use it. It had silent data corruption.

I'm a Europoor so I wanted to get by without backups, with just RAID 1

And you don't care about all of the usability bugs

a btrfs raid1 with automatic snapshots is a decent setup

there's 3 main ways a storage system can fail;
a: a disk dies, raid1+ solves this
b: accidental deletion, snapshots solve this
c: complete failure (such as your machine catches fire and everything is destroyed), only an external backup can solve this

just install kde

But there are also BTRFS bugs, right?

Actually, I wanted to enable snapshots just for system folders, so that I could revert things should an update go wrong

>Actually, I wanted to enable snapshots just for system folders, so that I could revert things should an update go wrong
you can do that

reiserfs. Hans was the hero we deserve.

How about this is2.Sup Forums.org/g/1484950179859.png

Finally someone else who names their boxes after Persian emperors.
I used romans for my windows computers and Chinese for my macs

How dangerous are the bugs other anons have been talking about? Can they corrupt the data silently?

yes. i format my drives only once after buying.

Does anyone have this wallpaper?

Thanks.

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enjoy
the wp is a dope

yes

c is just a stronger version of a. all backup solutions can be characterized by two things:

1. level of redundancy (how big a failure can your data survive?) e.g. disk-level, system-level, datacenter-level, country-level..

2. immutability (how hard is it to accidentally or intentionallu delete the data?) e.g. user-level, root-level, hardware-level, physical level..

btrfs for example provides disk-level redundancy and root-level immutability (you can still dd over the disk, `btrfs destroy` etc as root)

I think we should leave it to arch kiddies then. (Not saying all arch users are kiddies)

COW isn't that great. It's only good on embeded shit. On a desktop OS COW is a major hit to performance.

Do backups instead of RAID 1

How would you recommend doing incremental backups? Rsync?

borgbackup

It's capable of incrementally storing changes within files. It breaks files down into checksums chunks, similar to .torrent

By far the best backup solution I've found yet

>btrfs
>haven't already moved on to bcachefs

Will look into that, thanks

this

Daily reminder Hans Btrfs murdered his wife.

> systemd
Fuck that.

ext4 is the "norm" / best yes.
If you have special needs, there is XFS, JFS and ZFS.
Btrfs is STILL highly experimental. People still lose data left and right. For me it took one week to break on my server in a guest.

It never will be.

>no only that, loonix has been copycatting NTFS for years.
user has a good point here.

anyone notice this bug with arc theme where it dulls the white in the time and date? everything is bright white but the time and date look dark and grey-ish. It goes away with other themes like Numix and Adapta.

Why the hell is this not fixed?

Your filesystem is not going to make much of a difference on a desktop computer. Just use whatever is the default in your distro unless you have special requirements.

not as bad as reiserfs being a pedophile

ext4? btrfs? xfs? they all suck

What is that terminal emulator?

i think you are asking for shell theme not terminal, i think its customized zsh, terminal is not important it can work everywhere

The way that username and the current directory is being shown has no relation to the emulator? I'm not very familiar with it but I liked its look so now I want it.

google "zsh shell theme customize"