Do you think Trump is going to stick to his word on net neutrality?

Do you think Trump is going to stick to his word on net neutrality?

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Trump says whatever he thinks the audience in front of him wants to hear and barely campaigned on specific promises at all. I don't think he has a word to keep.

It's not like USA ever had net neutrality, so you don't know what you are missing out

I'm not American (I live in the UK)

This is actually true. They fucked Netflix up for using data.

This. Besides it's not like Trump even knows what it is, so it's less about him and more about his advisers ... which isn't much of an improvement.

his son is good at cybering

>honered

So this......is the price......of freedom

Tune into the intelligence discussion he's having right now and find out.

Spoiler: there will be no net neutrality (not that we had any to begin with), and they're going to be open about text mining and snooping the populace for predictive policing to stop crimes ahead of time.


Tbh it's not that bad as long as you aren't doing anything illegal that makes it so you end up on a watchlist.

Tactical misspellings, well played Trump. Get the libs to back off the violent outbursts and go back to nitpicking the little things and acting smug and superior instead of thugging it up in the streets.

>they're going to be open about text mining and snooping the populace for predictive policing to stop crimes ahead of time.
And I imagine that Trump will force companies like Google to be complicit in this

Stallman was right. Dear god.

>and they're going to be open about text mining and snooping the populace for predictive policing to stop crimes ahead of time.
So VPNs are going to be doing really well?

>Tbh it's not that bad as long as you aren't doing anything illegal that makes it so you end up on a watchlist.
I know right, there are so many examples of police states working out well for everyone!

Also it's not like a guy on a watchlist managed to buy guns and shoot up a nightclub without any issues.

>woke up from a coma
>new windows
>Donald Trump is the President-Elect (now President)
>The Last Guardian got released
>my house was robbed

For fuck's sake can't I get a fucking break

Hopefully. We don't need more regulations from preventing ISPs to enter the market.

why didn't you request to go back in the coma, senpai?

That's not how neut neutrality works. Jesus, do some people BSOD when reading "regulation"?

So how does net neutrality work?

Is this a fucking dream. I still can't believe he won. MAGA. God bless America

What? They already do that with Prism.

Net neutrality takes the approach of leaving monopoly ISPs as monopolies, and regulating their behavior. While I like the idea of forcing them to respect our privacy by regulation, there is a market-based way: Force states and municipalities to repeal regulations that protect monopoly telecoms companies. Did you notice how prices fell and data caps mysteriously vanished in markets where Google Fiber was announced? You wouldn't need net neutrality if every market had half a dozen different ISPs.

Who cares. Net neutrality doesn't do anything and maybe we will see wireless networks become more competitive after this. Fuck this net neutrality pussy shit once and for all and good riddance, let it die. Does absolutely nothing but make everything less competitive and 'muh fairness'

Tired of seeing Trump haters/neutrality white knights on DSLReports

Not predictive and only used for "counterterrorism", it's not like local law enforcement is grepping through NSA-collected phonecall data.

>he actually thinks Trump will help out consumers instead of businesses
>he actually bought into the trickle down economics scam version 2.0!

If you aren't a welfare leech, then you are part of a business.

On a very, very basic level it makes sure that all traffic is treated equal, so your provider can't throttle something they don't like while promoting their own unlimited service. It can further affect censorship, privacy and black listing of services. This also obviously helps with competition.

Without net neutrality, AT&T can easy make a deal ensuring high speed connection when you use Facebook but throttle you when using 4chains for example, making you pay more for unlocking "other social sites".

>Net neutrality takes the approach of leaving monopoly ISPs as monopolies
How? Why do you think are the monopols fighting it and spending millions for anti net neutrality propaganda? Also you realize that Google and basically everyone but Verizon, AT&T and Comcast supports it right?

Net neutrality is good for competition but yes, it wouldn't be as necessary if the US ISP market weren't fucked.

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So how are you going to enforce it?

>All these people cheering for the possible end of a set of rules intended to stop ISPs from fucking over customers and online businesses
I know you people really like Trump and how he stands against out of control political correctness. I've personally been in GamerGate since the beginning so I know how bad the PC bullshit has gotten over the last few years. However rolling back net neutrality rules is not a good thing for anyone except those who own shares in ISPs or who have stock options at them.

John Oliver is a moron and a cuck, but he was right when he ran his piece on net neutrality and how it protects the consumer from very mafia like business practices from ISPs.

>wage cuck thinks he's part of a business

Jews are not allowed to work according to their religious views.

>he thinks the board will vote to increase his wages rather than giving bonuses to executives

>wahh I won't be getting more neetbux!!!!

The same you enforce any other law?

So with regulations?

*sniggers*

Dumb fucking wagies.

>he thinks the only alternative to wagecucking is being a NEET
spoken like a true rube LOL

you're unironically a peasant working the fields and you're proud of it

Yes, evil regulations. You realize regulations are also the reason for most consumer rights, yeah? Or even something as basic as the guarantee that when you buy cornflakes, there are cornflakes and not tooth nails in the box.

>there are other alternatives to being in employment other than not being in employment

>Also you realize that Google and basically everyone but [the #1, #2 and #6 ISPs in the U.S] supports it right?
Do you realize that net neutrality can only be upheld by ISPs like the ones you mentioned? It doesn't matter if a service company like Google thinks that all IP packets should be treated equal when ISPs can sabotage all of that.

Google Fiber loses Google money and was basically just an activist project on their part to give ordinary people a better understanding of how they're getting fucked relative to the ISP market elsewhere in the world. All the local regulations enacted in recent years to protect incumbent telecoms are just to stifle municipal ISPs. While it'd be nice to get rid of them it's not going to mean Google is going to fill the vacuum or that competitors are going to spring up and start digging up people's front lawns to lay new fiber.

It'd be better if everyone just came to terms that there is no free market in internet service and regulated it as such, rather than sticking their heads in the sand and waiting for the DSL/Cable duopoly to pretend to compete.

Why would I buy cornflakes from a company known to put tooth nails in the box?

Stay poor bud.

Why do you think a company wouldn't make sure consumers like you wouldn't even realize what they're doing or try to make you think the substandard products and services they provide are acceptable?

Until you arent. A machine will always be more valuable than a wagecuck.

Because they have a cartel and they're all doing it.

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Sounds like a good opportunity to start my own corn flake company and capture the market.

he dictates his tweets it's not him making the typos

Wage cuck lookin' mad salty right now haha

>It doesn't matter if a service company like Google thinks that all IP packets should be treated equal when ISPs can sabotage all of that.
As long you can prove the sabotage, you can sue the fuck out of the cheating company with net neutrality. Without it, they are not doing anything wrong, legally speaking.

Because your alternatives are #1 nails cornflakes, #2 paper cornflakes and #3 stale decade old cornflakes. 2 and 3 coming from the same company.
Besides, it doesn't need to be done as obvious and packages in US are pretty shady already but at least you have the right to sue them for overdoing their bullshit in most cases, due regulations giving you the right.

It'll fix itself when half of Sup Forums finds out they have to pay twice or three times as much monthly to get their shitposting fix.

>delusional wagecuck thinks he's part of the ownership class
my sides

You're naive if you think you can always tell what has "nails in the box".

Not to mention people are retards and putting "with 50% less nails" ad on the box is often enough to sell all that shit.

Good luck selling them when the company manufacturing cornflakes has a deal with the major stores selling them and PR agencies promoting them.

I program the machines though.

>typos

e isn't near o.

>he thinks that matters if you're not an owner of the machine
Delusional wagie.

I have plenty of money to buy machines.

Company starts by selling legitimate cornflakes.
They form oligarch style truces and climb to the top with other companies.
They win out market and create a monopoly/oligarchy.
Then they start cutting corners to maximize profits while avoiding stepping on others toes in the truce. There is no more competition.
THEN you get nails in your box and there is no alternate brands to pick from or regulations to save you.

This was a huge deal back when the regulations were first being put in place. I don't know why everyone forgot about this all of a sudden. A free market, while better than socialism, can't function in a vacuum unless we know the players are benevolent to the customers. You need regulation.

and?

>my f-feudal landlord gives me enough to buy my own share, i f-farm t-the land t-therefore i-i'm not poor!
delusional cuck faggot, stay poor

I actually am a founder of my business and have a 40% stake.

>he dictates his tweets

a machine can't think for itself you dumbass edgelord, why do you think so many employers pay out the ass to hire """"wagecucks"""""

>tfw the golden age of ganoo plus linucks is approaching

I don't expect the man to stick to his word on what he wants for lunch.

You idiots will find this out soon enough.

This isn't the 1910s anymore where the only source of information was a newspaper.

I'm sure you totally are and not just some butthurt wagie.

KEK

>it will take extra money to download and use software not approved by the ISPs
>golden age of Loonix

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Having multiple sources of information doesn't stop a company from working to become a monopoly or create oligarchies.

The Cornflakes manufacturer signs a deal with an ISP to censor all users who write negative reviews of said cornflakes

>A machine will always be more valuable than a wagecuck.
Sure.

Why would anyone use an ISP that censors content?

He already gutted ACA with an executive order on day one without putting in any type of replacement.

I'm pretty sure he's serious about everything he said. The only thing that he won't come through on is stuff that requires money we don't have, like the Wall, since Mexico literally can't pay for it. Unless he plans on adding to the defecit to build and maintain it ourselves (which is probably what's gonna happen if he does build the Wall).

>net neutrality
>less competitive

How?

Most Euro ISP's censor hate speech sites and piracy sites. Now they're going to target "fake news".

Because it's the only ISP in town because they've colluded with a wiring company so that the wiring company will only lay cable for that specific ISP

>Most Euro ISP's censor hate speech sites and piracy sites

Can't you opt out?

What problem would net neutrality solve?

Ever heard of this invention called an airplane? It lets you move outside your town!

it is if you're using dvorak

If AT&T, Comcast and Verizon started censoring sites that would be 99% of America.

Stop ISPs from charging you extra for accessing YouTube over their shitty streaming site.

Owning the laid wires is a natural monopoly. And since there aren't regulations that force cable companies to sell access to other companies, they can get 100% of the customers in the region when they own the cables.

>Having to move somewhere else because an ISP has been able to get a monopoly position where you live

You do realize how massively retarded that is?

The entire country only has one ISP because their monopoly has eliminated all other competition.

To where? Every place in the state is going to get chopped up and controlled by a different arm of the oligarchy. Leaving ISP 1 for ISP 8 on the other side of the country is meaningless when ISP 8 is the only ISP in town where you decide to move to.

Ahh yes I'm sure the evil ISPs will hire a hitman to kill anyone else who tries to lay cables down.

Net neutrality doesn't stop that though.

hopefully he breaks up the provider monopoly, would be very nice.

Nobody will sell you cables because the cable manufacturers signed exclusive-use deals with the ISP as well.

1. Lobby the city to not give you building permits to lay cable.
2. If you ever happen to get permits, try to slow down your building as much as you can so you don't have any profit.
3. Whenever you get the cable laid and begin business, price all your current customer plans so you will only get a fraction of their customers at best.
4. When you are reduced to ash, return pricing levels to normal.

>libertarian kiddy
>not understanding you can solve problems with money without actual force

I'm not sure how you came to that interpretation as the purpose is to keep ISPs from treating traffic different in anyway, one of which is charging you for access to some sites but not others.
T-Mobile was getting shit from the FCC for doing that with their unlimited streaming.

You can't lay cables down unless you own the land where the cables are being laid or the government lets you do it on public land. On top of that, you can't just lay the lines down anywhere due to zoning regulations.
If you're priced out from owning land or the oligarchs are already in control of all government contracts, the little guys can't compete. Hence regulations.

And what's net neutrality going to do to stop that?

How is lack of net neutrality going to help against that? Just how strong is your anti-reality field. Comcast certainly fights net neutrality to break up monopols, right?