>1 cent worth of aluminum
>0.000001 cents worth of sand/silica
>0.001 cents worth of epoxy & glass fiber
>0.001 cents worth of solder
>0.001 cents worth of copper for the interconnects
yet it sells for >$300+
MY FUCKING SIDES!
How do they get away with it, Sup Forums?
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The Jews have the entire game rigged in their favor. Pay me, goy, this small piece of nothing is worth $250+ I swear!!
what about the gold, platinum, and other rare earth elements?
>bait
everything I don't understand is a bait
>what about the gold, platinum, and other rare earth elements?
There's only atoms worth of those in them. You can't even extract those out.
If you crushed few million CPU silicon wafers you might extract few milligrams of gold/platinum.
Enjoy your ban.
>>>/global/rules/7
You can say that anything is only worth its raw elements, but that's not fuckin true.
The material processing and complexity to produce the die make it a goddamn reasonable price.
You must be 18 to use this site.
>You can't even extract those out
yes you can. You can easily get 100 bucks from some old processors.
OK I'll play...
>R&D + Fabrication $290
>Marketing $9.99
>All the shit OP listed is just a rounding error
Enjoy yours
don't you know?
less is more
that's why you get more money for a refined diamond than for a chunk of it
>yes you can. You can easily get 100 bucks from some old processors.
Bullshit.
There's some Pentium Pros that have a fair bit of gold in them but if you buy them, chemicals and cost of the CPUs will cost you more than you'll recover from them.
Plus these days, no one uses gold in CPUs anymore for interconnects. Way too expensive.
by that reasoning, still infinitely less expensive than every digital produce ever
ok then, make one yourself :)
If I send you 2 cents will you make me one?
>reductionist inability to understand the concept of added value
Nice two digit IQ you got there OP.
not him but I'll sell you an older CPU for 2c. You'll have to pay for the shipping & handling. Deal?
...
of course the shipping would cost 15000g27s13c
money is a meme
Oh, that's nothing, still wishing AMD would die?
>OP
>1 cent worth of electrons
>1 cent worth of protons
hurrr
No, it will cost you $20... anywhere in the world. Do we have a deal?
there's more gold in PCB connectors than in CPUs. but all the people who think they can get rich from this are idiots because chemicals aren't free.
>$1.65 of carbon
how do they get away with it, OP
So what you're saying is all that money is being distributed fairly to all the researchers involved and Intel isn't taking massive disproportional profits out of it?
... and you expect me to believe it?
Isn't capitalism great?
>I don't understand what research costs are
>I don't understand what development costs are
>I don't understand what production costs are
>I don't understand what advertisement costs are
>I don't understand what shipping costs are
>I don't understand what overhead is
The low costs materials must just magically form into a product and find its way to you, huh?
Dumbass.
if its so cheap why dont u make one lmao
aren't you paying for the system design amd architecture?
>I don't understand what surplus value is?
Enjoy being exploited.
>each Blu-ray disc costs like 1 cent to make
>charge $50 for each disc
How much money do you think the facilities that manufacture processors cost?
The price of the processors pays for the equipment and research it takes to make them.
/thread
those are called SUNK COST.
you're a fool for including all that shit into pricing.
When you buy any product, a painting, a car, furniture, you're not paying for the materials, your paying for the quality, workmanship and dependability.
Those are not even the costs corporations themselves use to justify their massive unjustifiable profits, you corporate-bootlicker. That's just you trying to rationalize capitalism because you swallowed propaganda and don't wanna be labeled a "commie".
Just make one yourself, then :)
How much is your time worth?
If that were true, how the fuck do all these corporations make TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS every fucking quarter? Are you telling me they are not overpricing these pieces of sand?
>$12,000,000,000 machine to make them
>all companies should act as nonprofits with zero capital
Good luck to all the programmers in Sup Forums then, their work is worthless by that reasoning.
>few dollars of paint
>fling it everywhere like you just don't care
>sells for millions
A sucker is born every second. How do you think Apple stays in business?
>strawman
>Tens of billions
Sauce
say whatever the fuck you want, modern art that represents nothing is a money laundering scam.
insult to art
>Hurr smoosh the stoot burn cerpatalosm
Why not go buy some good socialist CPUs from Venezuela or the USSR?
There's a reason you aren't posting from a CPU designed in the Soviet Union or Cuba.
>Venezuela
>Cuba
>don't have equality
>don't have worker's ownership of the means of production
Not socialist. Stop parroting propaganda.
Hey, if you love capitalism so much, then why aren't you working 14 hours a day alongside your wife and kids in a sweatshop factory?
It's very easy liking capitalism after all the improvements that socialist unions and progressivism brought into it.
I hope you enjoy all the Pajeets capitalism is bringing in to replace you for less than minimum wage.
Fag commie
Captcha: common indian
>$0 worth of R&D
okay
This post is hate speech.
This post is bait.
ECONIMIES OF SCALE
>>>/econ101/
My fucking God! What is happening with Sup Forums? What are these kids doing here on this board?
It's always been like this.
10 billion dollars in research and development each year, divided across all of those CPUs sold. Also, the equipment to fabricate them alone costs between hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars.
But sure, only take into consideration the material cost.
Because unlike Sup Forums which is composed of rich white businessmen, this board is made up of tech-geeks, who are usually just simple working-class people.
if you think this constitutes "always" then you've been mislead as to how old Sup Forums is.
that pony show came out in what, 2010 or 2011?
>incredibly delicate construction process
>turns raw materials into massively complex unit
>literally not possible to make by hand
>machines needed to make cost 10000+ each
Try harder
so buy the components and make it yourself faggot. oh wait, you can't because you're just a NEET
>Sup Forums which is composed of rich white businessmen
This is probably the most successful bait thread.
Seriously, every fucking day anyone else create thousand shit threads like these.
Fuck's sake!
>muh 0.0001111 cents of this
>hur 0.0002 cents of this
>sells xxx price
>MY FUCKING SIDES JEWS BLA BLABLA
>10 carat """diamond"""
>literally just 2 grams of carbon
>literally worth $0.05
Welcome to capitalism.
This is why I Soviet Union and North Korea dominated tech.
Can't believe this got 60+ replies.
That's called sunk cost fallacy.
>In economics and business decision-making, a sunk cost is a cost that has already been incurred and cannot be recovered. Sunk costs (also known as retrospective costs) are sometimes contrasted with prospective costs, which are future costs that may be incurred or changed if an action is taken. Both retrospective and prospective costs may be either fixed (continuous for as long as the business is in operation and unaffected by output volume) or variable (dependent on volume) costs.[1] However, many economists consider it a mistake to classify sunk costs as "fixed" or "variable." For example, if a firm sinks $400 million on an enterprise software installation, that cost is "sunk" because it was a one-time expense and cannot be recovered once spent. A "fixed" cost would be monthly payments made as part of a service contract or licensing deal with the company that set up the software. The upfront irretrievable payment for the installation should not be deemed a "fixed" cost, with its cost spread out over time. Sunk costs should be kept separate. The "variable costs" for this project might include data centre power usage, etc.
Actually, lab-grown diamonds and industrial diamonds are dirt-cheap! you can literally find small diamonds on roads because diamond saws that are used to cut pavement shed small diamonds all the time.
Diamonds are expensive because of (mostly) jewish cartels that control marketing and sales. But that cartel is coming crashing down as more and more lab grown diamonds are sold at fractions of the price of "natural" diamonds.
>pretending it's free to operate the plants that make them when it's in fact ridiculously expensive
>pretending billions of r/d is free
autism
nice post retard
I have enough core 2 duos already (and no working motherboards to put them in)
what the fuck
that's not sunk-cost fallacy at all
you're seriously saying a company that sunk however many millions into creating a processor should sell it for only the sum of the physical parts?
sunk cost fallacy is 'well we already spent a bunch of money on it, might as well keep going instead of wasting it since that money's gone' without totaling possible future losses of continuing
i mean i don't agree with many of intel's business practices but you're an absolute retard
literally just some canvas and $5 worth of paint
>Hey, if you love capitalism so much, then why aren't you working 14 hours a day alongside your wife and kids in a sweatshop factory?
Because he got a better deal doing less
Capitalism at its finest
well, then don't ask me to sell them to you and quit welshing on deals.
are you dumb? just look at the fucking definition:
>A sunk cost is defined as "a cost that has already been incurred and thus cannot be recovered. A sunk cost differs from other, future costs that a business may face, such as inventory costs or R&D expenses, because it has already happened. Sunk costs are independent of any event that may occur in the future."
that's exactly what CPU factories and R&D are: sunk cost.
I said MAKE a CPU. only the finest artisanal locally sourced free range silicon is worth my 2 cents
Stop looking at them as separate entities, they are part of the same operation
>MAKE
I'll make one for you... just pay for $20 s&h already!
>Stop looking at them as separate entities, they are part of the same operation
you have no idea how accounting works, kiddo.
>ITT: I never took an economics/business class
Smart people come to that conclusion without wasting time replying.
There's only one of them. There are millions of cpus in the world.
Isn't a sunk cost just an accounting way of describing costs you have to pay no matter how much of your product you move? It's not good or bad but just a way of seperating fixed costs from ones which scale with sales
Your own fucking definition would indicate r&d is a future cost. Nobody will take you seriously if you contradict yourself in one paragraph, you retard.
Well, it basically means there's no use thinking about it because you already paid it. There's no guarantee you'll reap all the benefits of your investment. Economically speaking, that's what it means.
not really, from IRS:
>If it's not possible to directly match R&D expenses with revenue, then the asset can't be amortized. For these reasons, accounting rules require that all R&D costs be treated as expenses when they are incurred.
I'd explain it to you but you're too fucking clueless to even grasp what these terms even mean.
Can someone explain the point of this thread to me? Are people actually this retarded?
Nice lie faggot. Doesn't want competition?
can you tell me where to find cheap Pentium Pros? I'm all ears...
>50 cents worth of paper
YET IT SELLS FOR $10!
but let's forget about the research and the machines used to manufacture these things and the workers who make them
I don't you know how manufacturing works
You vastly underestimate how much the silicon costs.
if you'd have read the thread, you'd see that we discussed that.
ps: you're wrong.
This
>You vastly underestimate how much the silicon costs.
How much does 1cm x 1cm of unprocessed silicon wafer cost?