Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.
Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.
Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
Gaming builds based monitor resolution and refresh rate pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ >To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list >Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings >Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a Kaby Lake system
Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price. logicalincrements.com/ >OUTDATED CPU RECOMMENDATIONS (no mention of Kaby Lake) >Consider substituting an i5 7500 for the i3 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build >Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo >Consider a B150/B250 or H110/H210 mobo for any i3 build >Add a 240GB SSD to the "Great" tier build
General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information. pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL
Kaby Lake has been released! Skylake is depreciated if corresponding chips are similarly priced (e.g., i5 7600K vs i5 6600K)! >Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks >100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake >Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo" under XMP, which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well) >Pentiums now have hyperthreading, and are thus the new default budget / entry level gaming CPUs >Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform >All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory >Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock
You could probably spend less on the mobo but otherwise looks good
Zachary Mitchell
>looks good the point of the mobo tbqh, I originally planned to get the MSI Krait 3X, it's a better deal
Cameron Campbell
What are some reasonably priced silent or near silent fans? (120mm)
Logan Hughes
I have a 980 ti, but I plan on given it up to a friend. Should I get the gtx 1080 or wait for Vega?
Carson James
Wait for vega or wait til the 1080 ti releases.
Jordan Gonzalez
Vega will likely have a similar perf as the 1080, but the 1080Ti will likely be released in a couple months. You could get the EVGA 1080 and use the step up program to get the 1080Ti if you play your cards right. You better have at least a 1440p monitor though
Jack Ross
I probably plan on doing this. Does EVGA actually honor this plan and how does it work exactly?
Nicholas Lopez
Check their website, but basically if a better card come out within three months of your purchase of the current champ, you can upgrade for the cost difference or something
Nolan Mitchell
Noctua are god's gift
Jace Butler
pcpartpicker.com/list/dgDkzM Gaming build, budget of $2750, going for 1440p/144Hz. The first two things I'll upgrade are SSD and GPU, other than that I'm hoping it'll last a while. I'm in US btw. The sound card, I want because audiophile. My questions are: How long will this last? (-GPU&SSD) How can I improve it? Am I wasting money on meme parts? Is the sound card + headset not good with sound quality? I have Shure earphones but want overear headphones for gaming, so I'm looking for good headset, I'll raise total budget to $3,000 for better sound.
Michael Long
Didn't mean to reply to iust wanted to post. whoops
Jason Williams
>how long will it last likely longer than you need it for
>how can i improve it remove the fan controller, because those can hook to the motherboard. and someone is going to tell you that those fans are crap (even though i think they're awesome too). and with that big case you don't really need a liquid cooler unless you want one to clean up the inside, a metal heatsink with fans can do the job. But the Pro5 can hold 6 fans if you remove all bays. 3 in the front, 2 on top, and 1 in the back. But if you put 3 in the front then you lose access to both of your 5.25" slots, so just something to keep in mind.
But realistically it looks pretty good. Expensive, but everything is good quality.
Cameron Campbell
>How long will this last? Hard to say w/o being able to tell the future >How can I improve it? By doing more research on the audio aspect. >Am I wasting money on meme parts? Yes. The cooler, the fan controller, the sound card and the headset. >Cooler There are better coolers for cheaper, even if you want to stick w/ AIO. I'll make a part list for you in a lil bit that should be better. >Fan controller waste of money >Sound card and headset The mobo can power 600 Ohm headphones and has decent enough signal to not really need a DAC, so sound card is a waste. The headset is a meme gaymer headset. Go ask questions in a /hpg/ (headphones general) thread on here. They'll help you find something good for the money.
Logan Jackson
And ofc, the fans are meme gaymer rgb but I understand people's subjective taste in aesthetics so it's up to you. Here's the list: pcpartpicker.com/list/JQCFHN
Adam Bell
Are those GPU temps normal at idle? It's the first time I get a multi GPU build and I have no idea if it's within the norms
Aaron King
Yeah, I'd say they're normal.
Logan Barnes
why do you hate RGB so much?
Michael Long
>CF 290s >1080p m8. Sell them, buy a GTX1070 and a 1440p monitor
Samuel Edwards
Because I liked RGBs when I was 15 and I hate my 15-year-old self, tbqh. But other than that, it's not RGB that I hate, it's the fact that people focus more on pretty colors than performance. Same reason people hate faggots who put spoilers and shiny rims on their cars.
Angel Walker
It's a temporary monitor.
Anthony Jones
>spoilers and shiny rims on cars
i can see that. but it's more like different brands of air filters or exhaust rather spoilers or shiny rims. you'll get a lot of air coming through a K/N filter, but that's because the mesh is a bit looser so you'll also get a lot of particulates, but they look cool so everyone buys them. same with flowmasters, they have awful flow but they sound cool so even though you're not getting the max amount of power that you could with a more effective catback, you're still getting the sensation.
RGB fans still do the job, still spin, still pump air, but they might be a bit louder and more ostentatious, but sometimes a person has got to learn a lesson for themselves.
Gavin Price
That's why I said "I understand people's subjective taste in aesthetics," personally, I'd go with some Noctua industrial fans cause muh CFM, but again, that's up to you, and it isn't even a major part of the build, so don't worry about it. Go check out /hpg/ threads, like I said. That'll do more for you than arguing with me about RGBs.
Jackson Robinson
i'm not headphones guy, just someone else that got assblasted because of subjective matters. but i see where you're coming from.
Caleb Scott
>Same reason people hate faggots who put spoilers and shiny rims on their cars. Only chrome and nigger rims
>guy i work with had this on his 350z
John Perez
eww, that's atrocious unless he is deliberately trying to blind people.
Benjamin Morris
My rig from 2 and a half year ago. well atm i got a fx-8320 for 20€ and a couple of more hdd's and a PNY 120gb ssd.
Trying to lower price and optimize for 1080p at 60hz yet make it upgradeble to 1440p by adding a second card, also thinking of getting 16gb of ram
Should I switch the 1070 for a 480 8gb?
BD drive is for my BD collection.
Wyatt Rodriguez
what are you asking? do you want to upgrade? did you do well? what?
Oliver Miller
well what could i improve is what i wanted to ask. retarded me forgot to put in there
Sebastian Brown
obv i could upgrade the GFX but it still is going strong with what im doing (just playing games and photoshop at most)
Charles Johnson
You could get another processor, don't know if it'd be worth it. More ram wouldn't hurt. Maybe a newer GPU.
Parker Ramirez
It's already good enough for 1440p, dude. Here's an improved list: pcpartpicker.com/list/b48bcc Changed the GPU to nearly identical one that looks better and already has an OC on it. Got cheaper storage, added 16GB RAM. Cheaper price, better performance.
Jacob Walker
I know, Im just trying to make it more a 1080 machine that COULD be upgraded to 1440 If I wanted to.
I had to reduce my budget since Im quitting my part time job soon
Isaiah Fisher
the cpu atm is going strong with a 4,2 oc the gpu if i oc it with that factory oc on top of that it crashes. so thought about getting a 1080 on the summer sale... and ddr3 ram i can find that on the cheap so no problem there. tho since im not that fond of Intels pricing to performance coming to CPU's, do you recommend getting one of the zen one's when they are purchasable or am i having high hopes of low prices
Xavier Thomas
Just upgrade the GPU and RAM, CPU should be fine if you're happy with it. Once Zen comes out, the prices for Skylake will probably fall, so wait and see.
Jayden James
Do you want it even cheaper? If so, by how much?
Joshua Stewart
Wouldn't a 1080 bottleneck on that build?
Connor Thomas
most likely thats why i think of maybe getting a zen cpu. depends on how they price them if it really is not in my range i might just get a 1070 or something from amd
Evan Bailey
Under 1000 if possible, hence why Im looking into a 480
Isaac Johnson
Probably will, but it doesn't hurt to have an OP GPU if he's planning to upgrade his CPU later on, which he says he is.
Matthew Perry
Do you really need that ODD? Also, a cheaper case might help. You can also go with 1x8GB RAM right now and add another one when you have more money.
Samuel Sanchez
this was meant for
Thomas Lewis
That's stupid though, a single card can power 1440p 60hz for a good price, and SLI is fucking retarded I never understood all these new builders getting a halfassed card (or a new one) and planning to "get another to upgrade down the line". It doesn't scale like that, 90% of games literally won't even use the second card, and more often than not it ends up being more expensive than if you'd sold when you upgrade or just have gotten a good card in the first place
that is irrelevant. it's literally $1 more than the 2133mhz equivalent, and you can "utilize" the remaining 267mhz if you get a new mobo sometime in the future.
Dylan Lewis
I have to "wake up" in 5 hours and I haven't finished homework for my math course, yet I'm helping out people plan their PCs on a Mongolian clay pottery forum. This is entirely my fault.
Camden Brooks
>Mongolian clay pottery forum kek, putting my kek's aside, uni?
Justin Phillips
nah, too poor. Community college. Finished their EMT program, but I'm waiting for some IDs to come in, so taking Gen. Ed for now
Dylan Brown
But a b150 doesn't leave much room to upgrade from a 6500, by the time the CPU will need replacing there will probably be a new specific standard of ddr4. In the meantime he can try and save $10 by getting the cheapest stock 2133mhz oem ram he can find He's trying to budget
Chase Harris
It's an Armenian cockfighting wiki, get your facts straight
Kevin Bailey
Would an i7 3820, 16GB 1600MHz memory, and a 4GB 960 be decent for a gayming computer? Trying to find cheaper used parts for a gaming/rendering system for my brother
Christopher Rivera
>Kaby Lake Awareness
I'm aware it's shit, and requires fucking Windows 10.
Kayden Howard
>cheapest stock ram The cheapest RAM is $2 less than what I listed...
John Sanchez
So why not get 2x4GB and have dual channel? He can still use his $40 of ram if he does happen to upgrade his CPU and motherboard
Parker Rodriguez
That's infinity chan see pic because it costs more
Asher Bennett
Is it worth paying ~$60 more for a z270 board just for the faster ram and more I/O or would I be fine with a much cheaper B250 board?
Noah Harris
Or just stick with Z170, don't force yourself to join the botnet.
Cameron Baker
2x4GB ram costs exactly $1 more, and you get dual channel Sounds a lot better than $2 more, and you get "futureproofing" but no benefits
Isaiah Sullivan
Cause he wants to get 16GB eventually, and it's simpler (for the user and the pc) to run 2x8 in dual channel than 4x4 in dual channel, since skylake doesnt support quad channel
Matthew Bell
But it's not simpler it's the exact same difficulty to push in 2 extra sticks to upgrade than to push in 1 extra stick This isn't an argument, having dual channel right now and forever is.
Jack Morales
>it's much simpler for both the user and the PC to use 2 sticks instead of 4 >OH GOD IM RETARDED HOW TO RAM Also the PC must be retarded and not know how to ram as well
Nicholas Stewart
Pushing 2 extra sticks = higher % risk (however small) of something breaking. Also, more physical components means there are more components that can fail. So you pay a bit more for an unnoticeable (to the human) improvement in performance but also a higher risk of component failure. You are literally retarded.
Eli Lee
Any tips on how to reduce computer noise?
What materials do I need to make my case isolated?
I dont want to spend too much on flashy shit if I can do it myself with the same results
Luis Clark
any ideas for a better screen for a rx 480? I got pic related (27UD68) but the 480 is slightly shitty at 4k and it will only get worse.
Looking for 1440p or 1080 at the least.
Ayden Sullivan
You can turn it off. Other than purchasing a case that has good sound iso, idk.
Jonathan Peterson
LG 29UM68-P
Adrian James
Tell me why this is a bad purchase and how am I going to regreat my decission once I buy it
Besides price, they are the same shit isnt it? Or am I missing something?
Camden Long
>That built-in I/O shield Almost makes the $400 price tag worth it
Julian Scott
This is beautiful, but is it worth it?
Nathan Ortiz
Acer is supposedly a bit lower quality, but yeah, pretty much.
Landon Richardson
Sorry the original price tag is 180€
Cameron Rogers
I went ahead with the code series just cause they don't have the WS series out yet and I'm an impatient fucktard.
If you have a hardon for custom cooling rig then the formula is fine, also has additional lighting.
Otherwise you may want to wait for the Apex or Extreme to come out, or look into the Code.
Austin Sullivan
>good for EKWB watercooling loops and shit >super pretty >prolly has a buncha nifty features but on the other hand: >forced botnet >$400 up to you, really
Austin White
I guess if I wanted to save money I could just get a z170 board with 6th gen cpu. The difference in performance is minimal right?
Ethan Cox
So once Kaby Lake is out every other i7 is going to be cheaper right?
Im a fucking poor fag so this is great news for me
Still waiting for a good GTX 1070 offer, also quick question, why is the GTX1070 Winforce cheaper than the regular?
Aiden Cox
Yeah, aren't losing anything (significant) and get to keep Win7/8/8.1 support.
Leo Mitchell
Just stick some Noctua fans and you are set
Mason Sanchez
Kaby Lake is already out, and the Skylake chips have dropped a bit in price. Not much, but still makes me happy, being a poorfag as well.
Can't comment on the 1070, I personally want an MSI Quicksilver cause they're so pretty, but they're a bit expensive, and I already have a RX 480.
Gavin Lopez
Im fucking mad my DDR3 32gb is now going to be obsolete....fuck man, this is not the future I choose...
Jose Allen
Okay maybe I'll do that then as mobo prices are much cheaper
Tyler White
Yeah, that's also a good factor to keep in mind.
Carter Clark
Red pill me on water cooling please, Ive never read more about it because im a fag that always tought thats some voodo stuff, very high end and not necessary
Now im intrigued but im still a fucking newborn, what should I avoid or look at before buying?
Noah Cruz
Noctuas are overpriced shit, avoid that
Jacob Kelly
>why is the GTX1070 Winforce cheaper than the regular?
Got that for my brothers build, seems to run fine. He did mention that he got a graphical glitch when he first plugged it in at home, bunch of bars on the screen. It cleared after restarting. I think it might be a problem with the shitty 100$ RCA LCD tv screen he's using.
Brandon Watson
Water cooling in general? You could look into all in one water cooling things that you just attach to your CPU or whatever. Unless you are talking about full loops
Joseph Robinson
What are full loops?
Also any brand I should look at?
Cooper Ross
When is the best time to buy computer parts?
I want to buy a new pc but I dont know if any big sale is coming soon or if prices are gonna rise
Whats your opinion on that?
Isaac Perry
For full loops, afaik EKWB is like the goto brand.