Ethics classes

>ethics classes

Whats the point?

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There is no point. Smile, agree with your professor, show up to class, do your assignments, and when the course finishes, forget everything they taught you

No point. Just get a passing grade and forget you ever had it.

ESL weedout

never had ethics classes

I can do whatever the fuck I want

>muh unrestricted freedom

Ethics class is supposed to teach psychopaths that cooperation with normal people can be mutually beneficial.

It should be a mandatory class in high school.

To not steal any open source software

>Classes on inherently subjective things

for what purpose?

That you have to ask is the entire point. I can't believe with the amount of botnet bitching that goes on here the one class that is like don't be assholes is the ones you find the most useless.

Now, go off and fall for the meme and cry about shills.

>why would I need such a thing as an ethics class I'm already right about everything

I dodged a bullet when I went to uni. The year after I started they introduced a mandatory abo education course for the first years.

I wasn't aware that I wasn't ethical in the first place

There are enough useless mandatory classes in highschool

fuck off

Your existence isn't really ethical. Mom should have aborted you realistically but she wanted to stay in America~

ITT we finally found Americas problem

ok

I'm on one right now and desu it's quite fun.
Tfw all other classes have no hot babes.

Just flow with it, give bullshit arguments and because of the "everyone is right" mentality, you can get away with all the bullshit you want.

I had mandatory Bible class for ~6 years ( old testament )
your ethics isn't so bad now, is it?

Cultural Marxism

I'm just saying it might surprise you, and if it doesn't, then consider the possibility that it may be aimed at clueless retards and not smart, reasonable people.

these things invariably exist in reaction to actual real world problems.

Their aren't supposed to be clueless retards at a good engineering school

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>Their aren't supposed to be clueless retards at a good engineering school
Then why are you there??

>>Their aren't supposed to be clueless retards at a good engineering school

Nope, but there will be maximum autismos who don't understand basic human interactions.

No class were you show up and go through the motions will change someone like that

Fucking this

Well this way the university can not get sued.

Which uni?

What is the point of making a point? Why even bother trying to prove a point? What is a point anyway?

The correct answer is the degree path says so, though. I hope the course is easy af because I'm not majoring in philo

kantian ethics best ethics

Universities will not get sued for anything a former student does

Can you imagine someone making that argument in court?

> This bridge fell because my university was shit
> actually, we taught you how to calculate if the materials could take the load or not, you were just negligent and wanted to use mud and sticks to make more shekels

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Unis can get sued for anything though.

theguardian.com/education/2016/dec/04/graduate-sues-oxford-university-1m-failure-first-faiz-siddiqui

>An Oxford graduate is suing the university for £1m claiming the “appallingly bad” and “boring” teaching cost him a first-class degree and prevented him from having a successful career.

>Faiz Siddiqui, who studied modern history at Brasenose College, told the high court he believes he would have had a career as an international commercial lawyer if he had been awarded a first rather than the 2:1 he achieved 16 years ago.

You should be happy the ethics class is in your degree path because that means it counts to your GPA

never bitch about easy classes that can pull up your GPA

Good people don't need ethics classes.

Bad people won't be changed by ethics classes.

A degree is a certificate of proficiency. If the university gives degrees to people without the appropriate proficiency, they're essentially violating a contract.

It has more sense than arts and religion.

But if they have the appropriate proficiency and choose to do something unethical it's not the uni's fault

Those have nothing to do with unis being responsible for unethical behavior of graduates

Unfortunately for you, this world doesn't just hold 'good' or 'bad' people. Hopefully you realize this very quickly!

This 2bh
Don't know why anyone would bitch about it, all you have to do is show up and your GPA is instantly improved.

>But if they have the appropriate proficiency and choose to do something unethical it's not the uni's fault
Ethical training is part of the proficiency. You can't sue the university if you CHOOSE to be unethical, just like you can't sue the university if you choose to fuck up the bridge design on purpose. But you can sue the university if they don't give you an adequate education.

This is absolutely fucking retarded.
Kill yourself.

>not enjoying both STEM and humanities subjects

Not an argument

>>This is absolutely fucking retarded.

That may be, but it's also legally sound.

>Unfortunately for you, this world doesn't just hold 'good' or 'bad' people. Hopefully you realize this very quickly!
Substitute good and bad for people who don't and people who do need an ethics class and it still holds

CS/IT plebs get to pretend they're real EEs

There are not enough courses in high school. Students shouldn't even go home.

>Sup Forums - Technology

what's the point?

>t. everyone at wall street.

Easy credits
Allows you to be smug on your resume

>Graduate from top university
>Get an IT job that's not about mass spying on people for government and corporations
It's like you want to be left behind in the age of big data and clouds

It is not generally beneficial. Often you can get ahead by stabbing someone in the back. As long as you don't get caught it is something that can benefit. If ethics is about actions that are beneficial then all they need to learn is that people are only useful if you can use them. And psychopaths already know this

Then how are we going to fuck them?

in case you haven't noticed, you're literally spending your own money (or going into massive debt) so that people you'll never meet can shape and conform you to the principles of capitalism for their benefit, not yours

Teach you why you're evil for switching or not switching the tracks of the trolley.

All I need are libertarian ethics. All other ethics are inferior and damage freedom.

You'll ace the inevitable trolley problem interview question

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we learned about RMS and free software in my required ethics class

it was comfy

Doubtful. Socialism is not ethic.

Ethics in engineering is incredibly important, it's nothing to do with hurrdurr workplace inequality, it's all about your role as an engineer and what that actually means for your career when the thing you've worked on fucks up severely in the real world

I'll take "Psychology" for $200 Trebek

Does this mean military engineers are not ethic?

Cool

Just blame someone else... Problem solved

Either you've never taken an ethics class or you did and you should have failed it.

It's funny you'd say that. In my Ethics class, I argued at length that neglecting to repay debt was not necessarily an unethical act in a society where debt is mandatory and predatory, and was met with a lot of resistance.

You're unaware of lots of things before you learn them.

To make you think, dipshit.

Good people can benefit from ethics classes in an academic way. It's like basically applied philosophy.

In my opinion, it's okay to study religion as a phenomenon, but theologians should not be a thing. A theologian is a person who has spent their lives learning the mental contortionism necessary to remain a bronze-age troglodyte for their entire life, and to teach others the same.

You actually learn about this viewpoint in any worthwhile Ethics class. Machiavelli espoused these ideas.

Only if you're a rube. If you're an actual thinker, you'll come away understanding what they think and what they mean, but not necessarily buying into it.

It's a long-standing ethics problem precisely because it has no objective solution (except under utilitarianism!).

t. VW engineer

Yeah... The director gets blamed, engineers can put "solved environmental scandal" in their cv.

>tfw chaotic evil alignment

It gives the legal team at the company you'll be working for time to catch their breath.

You see the problem with this is that now I'm forced to hope for something other than wardiving equipment as I'm sure linux corps won't be building a wireless infrastructure just to try and keep it secure.

Does faker engage to retreat? No, he only does so if he has a huge lead, banner of command and one other sup based kat build item.

>le edgy Joker alignment

Pedant much? By that logic
If I'm using a maglight I'm a police officer? Am I brilliant for using that flashlight? Am I lit? Baterry powered?

The H file cannot be executed without the C ot CPP file.

pleastop

The point from a dilemma isn't an objective solution, sorry. You can't fool an ethics board unless there's a language barrier. At a dilemma it's finding track to objective solution. Please try again or stop fooling the few that want to do well.

what are you on about?

To teach you what to lie about and how to lie in order to appear innocent.

Sorry newfag, go bait someone else. I wanted to help until you posted this response.

>finally

This is common knowledge, though.

>The H file cannot be executed without the C ot CPP file.
Yes it can. There is no functional difference between a header and a source file, the distinction is entirely a stylistic choice. You can write an entire program in a header, or put your source in a header and declarations in a CPP and it works just fine.

It was mandatory for me in high school and I'm a burger. Good thing my parents didn't entrust my education to the State but instead chose to pay for a Jesuit education.

Very well said. Have a (You)

including main?

anyway, I figured you couldnt execute from main without a c or cpp file so he'd clarify on what makes someone so disdainful/dismissive of ethics, ethical?

I still don't think you can execute from an .h file, though. Not without the c or cpp. Go back to webdev.

Tested this and you can save, compile, and even have your filr but come time for execution it says idkwtfbill.