WE HAVE A Sup Forums APPROVED MESSENGER BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. WHY?

>PRIVATE AND SECURE. Everything you send on Wire is end-to-end encrypted.
>NO PROFILING. Wire cannot read your messages, and does not share or sell your data or contact details to anyone.
>PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL. Register with phone number on mobile, or with email on desktop, then log in with the same account on mobile.
>OPEN SOURCE. Anyone can verify the security of Wire by auditing the code available on GitHub.
>MOBILE, TABLET, DESKTOP. Chats are always in sync and you don’t need your phone to log in on desktop.
>GROUPS. Wire is great for private and secure group conversations with up to 128 people.
>TIMED MESSAGES. Control how long others see your messages, pictures, videos.
>DELETE. Posted something to a wrong chat by accident? No problem, delete it from all receiving devices.
>VOICE AND VIDEO CALLS. Crystal clear quality, developed by the original audio team from Skype.
>GROUP CALLS. Add up to 10 people and enjoy the virtual stereo effect (with headphones) to help you understand who’s talking.
>AUDIO AND VIDEO MESSAGES. Record and send, or choose a clip from your device. There are even fun audio filters to modify your voice.
>GIFS AND SKETCHES. Send a funny GIF or sketch with your finger (try also sketch-on-photo) to send a unique reply.
>FILE SHARING. Securely transfer any file from your device, or from cloud services like Google Drive or Dropbox.
>LOCATION SHARING. Meeting up or giving instructions is easy – just share your current location.
>VIDEOS AND MUSIC. Share a Youtube, Spotify, Vimeo or SoundCloud link in a chat and others can play it without leaving Wire.
>LINK PREVIEWS. Share any web link and we will automatically show the page title and a photo from the page (if available).

wire.com

Ok, Sup Forums

We have what you have been asking for since the advent of smartphones.

What autism are you going to use to make excuses out of using this app that fulfills every one of our requirements?

Well? What now, Sup Forums?

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vk
microg.org/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

literally who cares, just use discord like everyone else

>just use discord

fuck you gaymur

I do, fuck off.

medium.com/wire-news/simple-privacy-policy-72-hour-log-retention-33d183ea0fb3#.k9lgnjz7h

Discord is unadulterated cancer. Everyone raids other rooms to spam invite links because it's a popularity contest. Most users are borderline mentally retarded. or just normalfags.
Rarely can you ever get an answer to a question because ever ones too busy posting emotes and 'dank memes'.
Only good thing there is the image upload. But you know that comes at the cost of all of your user data. Least with imgur I'm leaching bandwidth, and no more unless I use their forums.

your really dumb

Get fucked. If others click imigur embeds without a sanitized connection they don't deserve their privacy.

Sounds good to me.

I use VKontakte and Skype (:

>discord
Garbage

I use it too
For the CP and porn

Am i the only one who still uses Kik?

yes it doesn't have any features

xD now back to Sup Forums

ITT : autistic GNU/NEETs who do not understand The Network Effect.

I just use it for texting. It doesn't need any fancy features. It did recently add video chats, but i never use it.

vk com/search?c%5Bq%5D=gangbang&c%5Bsection%5D=video

there's literally tons of porn on there

same applies to self-defense guns

Dear god, just use i2pbote

what is wrong with xmpp? cock.li gives you an email address AND xmpp address under the same alias for all your shitposting needs. if you want public rooms, pick a conference server of your choice.

>i2pbote

wat

>Kik?

garbage

...

Looks really good desu.

>everything is autism

...

Skype runs like hot garbage though.

Desktop app for Wire is pretty good compared to Skype. Syncs between phone and desktop well enough. It's basically what Hangouts and Skype should have been without the botnet and aids. I'm surprised people even bother with Signal since it's hitched to botnet and requires that cancer to run. Supposedly it will run with microg.org/ the Google Framework replacement that's FOSS.

>free
>no ads
>full privacy

How the fuck do they make money?

It's a honeypot

Kik is what children use. Adults that use kik mainly use it to entice children for nefarious purposes.

Because the massive amount of shilling on Sup Forums makes me suspicious. I bet this shit is a honeypot.

>nobody uses it

Forgot that OP.

OP is either autistic or a shill

I doubt they make any money tbqh. Seems to be the trend with all the mobile or "apps" these days. Look at Twatter. Hell even Facebook isn't profitable as they have to lie to scam money for ads. Amazon didn't even hit projections and they actually sell shit. Took them years to even break even.

>Because the massive amount of shilling on Sup Forums makes me suspicious.

Sup Forums shills everything privacy-related you dumbass.

So are you suspicious of everything privacy related now?

I'd think it's more of a counter shilling attempt since Wire covers your bases on PC or mobile and offers encryption and is even Open Source. Enemies would be Google, Microsoft, Governments, and just about everyone that skims your data including the Chinese. Makes sense. Try to label it as a honeypot here on 4chinz and other boards to prevent adoption. Big money on the other side.

Hit me up @xum

Thanks for the tip. Uninstalling Signal now.

They've stated they plan on moving to subscription fee once evolved

>WHY?
because you're an obnoxious fucking shill, and nobody uses it.
I don't like skype, but I used it because my retard friends did.
I don't like memebook, but I use it for IM because my retard friends do.

If I could I'd even ditch having a cell phone but fuckin NOOOO that's the only way anybody ever fucking contacts you now. Text messages or fucking facebook.

Can somebody tell me what this is?

You could correspond through only the post

because all my friends use telegram and i'm not cool enough to convince everyone to use wire

I know the feeling. I ditched Discord and Fagbook, and basically cut ties with the only people I talked to. I'll probably ditch my phone, or at least downgrade to something that can run Replicant for emergencies.

Kind of suspicious you are shilling wire.

>calls OP a shill
>tells people to use Facebook

Fuck off, Jew.

If they ever decide to put it on f-droid, maybe I'll give it a try.

You are gay

I'm still trying to work up the nerve.
There's basically only two people I talk to through kikebook but they're also the ones I talk to the most, and I'm hesitant to lose that.

I'm not telling anybody to use anything, dipshit. Learn to read.

Your conclusion was text messages or Jewbook.

>Am i the only one who still uses Kik?
are you in high school?

kik is a garbage messenger, you should be embarrassed to browse Sup Forums while using that shit

My conclusion was nothing, you doughboy. I don't use Wire because nobody else does, and I went on to explain why I begrudgingly use things I hate instead because people DO use them.

>Why don't you ride this bicycle user? No it shouldn't matter it doesn't have any wheels. Why would you want wheels? Look at all the gears it has!

Tox

I already use Wire.

>shill for open source
the only autist here is you

that all channels you have in discord are full of shit, says more about you than of the program.

>What autism are you going to use to make excuses out of using this app that fulfills every one of our requirements?
How about my friends don't use it?

It's either Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp. Do I like having those on my phone? No. Do I have a choice? Also no. But what can you do.

Whats most interesting to me regarding wire, was that you could choose your own server for storing your logs and contacts.
Do you think people would be interested in a home server that offers cloud functionality, email and chat, while storing most relevant data on a drive you can physically access?

no

So what do they gain from providing this apps?
There's no way they do it for free right?

It's free now and then they add paid features later. You think people would join a paid messenger in droves?

Fair enough.

I mean, why wasn't it obvious to you in the first place? Every other IM service starts out as free to attract users and then they slowly monetize it later once they are locked in.

So how do I run a open sauce server like with xmpp?

You can't do it yet, but the server code will be open sourced this year according to the devs.

>How the fuck do they make money?
just like telegram, they are supported by some donor who is sympathetic to internet privacy

He was pointing out how cancerous the userbase is. Sure, it's fine between friends. But with competing ideas/fanbases, forget about it

>wire is Sup Forums approved
I don't recall approving this.

>I don't recall approving this.
you aren't Sup Forums. I am.

signal has everything on there except the group and video calls though
this is biased af

You're not me, I am.

>my friends don't use it
>Do I have a choice? Also no
You're a beta cuck. That's why you have no choice. If you're important, they will call you.

>If they ever decide to put it on f-droid, maybe I'll give it a try.
it's open source, you could potentially build it yourself and put it there I think

>signal has everything on there except the group and video calls though

No it doesn't. It just got 1to1 video calling in the beta, but it's still missing the standalone desktop client, multidevice support, and group calling.

This isn't biased. You are misinformed.

That chart is really old. Whatsapp has had encryption for a while.

They don't yet, but they probably have lots of money now (they're ex Skype devs) and they plan to have some paid features later.
They might also be making some money from metadata.


But all in all, there's not much to complain about it. I like how you don't need a fucking phone to register and use it, unlike a lot of messengers nowadays.
And while it's a centralized service (with a proprietary server) it's probably as good as it gets for messengers while still being normie-friendly.
The fully open source (and decentralized) messengers end up being either normie-unfriendly or underfunded, which hurts development and sustainability in the long run.

>That chart is really old. Whatsapp has had encryption for a while.

Are you dumb? That's exactly what the chart says.

Signal doesn't work without a phone number.
Signal doesn't have a web app.
Signal doesn't have a desktop client (there's some Chrome extension or something).
Signal doesn't have video calls (yet).

>Signal doesn't have video calls (yet).

The beta is out with video calls and Opus for the audio.

Try to keep up to date on all of them before you argue.

Oh, I'll have to pay for it eventually. Reinstalling Signal.

No, it doesn't. Try not to reply so fast without reading first, you're shitting up the board.

Yes, it does, you blind retard.

What is wrong with you?

Do you have any friends? We have group chats and most of it is pointless crap.

Sure they'd call me for going out and shit. They're not going to call me for all the dank memes they found, they'll spam group chats. Messenger and Whatsapp are convenient for that, that's all there is to it.

Op we dont talk about your bullshit Bc most of Sup Forums are tech illiterate windows 10 users asking where the "my computer" icon went in that version, and the small minority that are actually capable know that riot/matrix is the current and future

I sit in an online lounge for that shit(soc media is like 3-5 years behind in meme time). As for IRL friends I lost/drop contact with them by the time I was 18. I began work at 16, and by then they all became attention whoring faggots/just dumb cunts/just cunts. But that happened for a fair few people from my region at the time. Culture shift.
Still haven't gotten back to having friends yet. I'm 26 now. Did have a girl from 16-22.
Might go play warhammer at a store. You happy now you normie fuck? I'll go socialize. ;_;

Red pill me on riot/matrix

I'm not happy, you fucking faggot.
Yeah, I know what it feels like, I lost contact with most people during my 6 year long relationship, also from 16-22. Downloaded both Messenger and Whatsapp and became part of botnet last year so I can get back in the game.

Being paranoid and isolated from the world is no fun, I'd rather get shit memes in group chats. Keeps you sane.

Good luck socializing.

It would be preferable to offer self hosting options but a default feature would be zero logging except for debugging.

>Red pill me

no

Can I paste memes into it directly from the clipboard like Telegram? If not this is doa.

I thought WhatsApp did have a standalone desktop version?

$100 says it requires a phone number to create an account.

you can register on your pc, and then login to that account on your phone

pay up bitch

I drag and drop or paste memes into wire all the time. Default it has animated gif using giphy for reaction gifs if you don't have a meme folder already.

You can reg via email. I have my legit account and a couple puppet accounts. Desktop app is pretty good. Shame hangouts doesn't have one or many of the others. Telegram was one of the few that actually had a desktop app that was total shit or third party.

Telegram has also promised to open source the server software. We'll see.

Why not XMPP+OMEMO with Conversations or ChatSecure?

Discord channel I'm in has sections for memes and unrelated shit so that it stays off the main discussion or questions section.

how can it be Sup Forums approved if we're not talking about it?

PGP is still the most secure

>XMPP+OMEMO with Conversations or ChatSecure
I hope this gains more traction too as well as microg.org/

We need solid options that won't disappear.