There is a difference between software trying to serve me as best they can and not quite succeeding (requiring me to tinker with it), and software actively trying to sabotage me for profit (requiring me to combat it).
Personally, I find the former rather more tolerable than the latter.
David Morgan
Works on my machine
Seriously though, a vanilla copy of Windows 10 doesn't do any of the stuff that gets posted here on Sup Forums
Tyler James
We call this Stockholm Syndrome, OP. >I just fell of the stairs! Honest! >He would never actually abuse me! I know he loves me!
Juan Lopez
unix like oses are popular among developers. Get over it normie.
Landon Bennett
I'm not OP. I also don't understand your point.
The bottomline is, I installed Windows 10 after getting pissed off by Linux and now everything works much better. Sounds like you're the one with Stockholm syndrome.
Henry Howard
The difference is that on Linux you can tinker with it, but on Windows you have no other way but spread your ass cheeks and hope that Pajeet knows about lube.
Jack Jones
This. Especially when my enterprise overlords have locked every little option to tinker.
Bentley Ortiz
My experience is the opposite.
Windows: Google problem, usually a registry edit.
Linux: that's a bug and you're gonna have to live with it until some unpaid developer with no motivation fixes it.
Jayden Cook
>Linux does something you don't like >>Well, whatever, time to change some settings so it works like I want it to or try another DE.
>Windows does something you don't like >>You're fucked, you can't customize it and there are no alternatives.
Caleb Perry
>Linux does something you don't like >it's embedded into Kernel and to remove this "feature" you need to rewrite while fucking thing
yea, tinker with that faggot.
Austin Bailey
Linux does something you don't like. You learn why and gain the knowledge of how to deal with it . Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for the rest of his life vs. fish are proprietary and availabe for a licensing fee. May not be eaten and modified to poo unless utilizing a Microsoft designated shitting street.
Nathan Lee
90% of the time with Linux, when I want to customize something, the first Startpage search result is a Stack Overflow question with an answer that tells me exactly how to do it with a bash 1 liner. 90% of the times I want to customize something in Windows, the first and all the following Google search results are ads for/howtos involving some closed source application I have to install and constantly run in the background that also installs adware and gives aids to everything on my local network.
Chase Brown
>unpaid developer with no motivation
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8
Benjamin Hughes
>things that never happen: the post
Brayden Reed
What are some things you can't customize in Windows?
Christian Gonzalez
>windows doesn't do something you'd like, at least by default >okay, I'll just either pirate a tool for this, wait for Microsoft to realize it's useful or use a Mac or Linux if I'm not a winbaby. This is COMPLETELY acceptable, I mean why shouldn't it be? I can't expect an OS to do everything I want out of the box...
>linux doesn't do something you'd like, at least by default >REEEE WTF? WHY ISN'T THIS WINDOWS AND WHY CAN'T IT PLAY MY EXE FILE?!‽¿ I'M GONNA CALL THE LOCAL NEWS, THE WORLD MUST HEAR THIS!
Easton Gonzalez
>"Cool, something to tinker with! I love customizing my OS."
Yeah it's fun, shame it doesn't happen too often
Justin Scott
>I installed Windows 10 after getting pissed off by Linux
Jonathan Miller
>everything works much better Even the filesystem is garbage on w10. Maybe the drivers' API can be called better and the vanilla scheduler are more desktop friendly, but that's all.
William Clark
The option to turn off telemetry
Isaiah Powell
>buying something >it's a steaming pile of shit >don't whine because you will be a lincuck and autismo worshipper Two digit logic.
Evan Parker
OP, why are you referring to the GNU operating system as "Linux"?
Landon Sanders
First of all, get fucked OP for making another cheap bait thread.
Secondly, it's not true. I fucking hate Poettering and every piece of shit software he managed to mangle into the average linux distro. The only difference is with linux you get to be pissy with all kinds of individual people, where with microsoft you just get mad at the company because fuck them entirely.
Reminder that sage goes in all fields.
Connor Allen
>>Windows does something you don't like >>"fucking Microsoft reeeeeeeeeeeee" yeah, because if i paid good money on software, i expect it to deliver.
Andrew Jones
That's why stable distros exist. You have choice.
David Robinson
T H I S
Noah Thompson
sure fa.m. need more lube?
Christopher King
Face it, you can customize it on Linux, but not on Windows, you corporate shill.
Jose Collins
What can't you customize on windows.
Connor Sanders
Not being assfucked by Microsoft in every way they wish.
Isaac Kelly
> >The option to turn off telemetry Telemetry is fine. Who cares. For all I care bill gates can look at my files. They control my PC so what
Smarter people has always been on charge. I don't give a shit
Christopher Anderson
>you're blinded by your faith to Richard It's funny what the guy implies in this image for linux users when microsoft is the one who actually instructs their employees the way you're describing here: -For them "evangelism is war" -MS is the one who has something akin to indoctrination: is teach at schools to people when is young. -MS doesn't tolerate the existence of competing technologies, for them the only true victory is when the competitor closes their business. -MS actually encourages their employees to spread FUD. -MS actually pays people to manipulate opinions and shut up criticism and buys positive reviews on media.
I don't understand. what's wrong with tinkering your OS to make it do something you like?
Elijah Cooper
It's interesting how fans can be "trained" into defending something relentlessly, even when their thing does something incredibly stupid. Usually when the thing is a bit chaotic and does good and bad. Particularly noticeable with Trump fans but also bitcoin and Apple. I wonder if there's a name for the phenomenon
Parker Morgan
I hope you're just "pretending".
Kayden Lewis
>no alternatives There is linux
Adam Rogers
Because when you don't like something in Windows, you can't do anything about. One would expect you could come to this realization yourself user...
Luis Sanders
Only a vague answer. Something tells me you're just a shill for the gnu corporation.
Kevin Adams
wrong
>Linux does something I don't like >"Oh well I better fix this"
>Windows does something I don't like >"Microsoft says it's a feature so I probably shouldn't question it
Easton Ramirez
>I don't understand what having control of my own computer means You've been stuck with Windows so long you don't even know what having actual control over your PC means
Jose Wilson
>Linux have a bug, do something i don't like >Fix it or use an alternative to this component
>Windows does something like that >Can't do anything, need to shutdown the process (if windows wants to) and have to reboot the computer hoping it won't happen again
Jaxon Green
I have never been happy when any OS did something I didn't want. IDK what you're rambling about.
Daniel Carter
Not him but : Pick a better fs, have another DE, wm, modify its keybinding to what you want, change any component of your system to another... And the list goes on. You should have a good idea now.
John Russell
the majority of DEs and WMs are extremely similar to the Windows interface anyway or only deviate from it in superficial ways
only tilers are really all that different and while it's understandable to just like them and use them that way, shitting on other platforms for not offering them like it's some kind of god-given right is retarded because they're ultimately a placebo for retards who use them as a crutch to feel productive
>change any component of your system to another it's an extremely valid point against NT shills who try to act like it's anywhere near as modular, but let's be real, who the fuck actually does this for a typical desktop use case?
Isaiah Bennett
>asks for something Windows can't do >gets told about something Windows can't do >lol why do you want to do that? Microshills, everyone.
Christian Jenkins
>Linux makes a change you don't like, simple fix >Microsoft makes a change you don't like and it's literally impossible to fix Gee Billy
Aiden Watson
because it's straw grasping that nobody gives a shit about in the real world
Nathan Collins
Isn't the biggest difference here that if Windows does something you don't like, you don't really have any way of changing that behavior into something you do like?
At least with linux there's usually some way to get around a behavior that's undesirable.
Except for the fucked-up middle click. Seriously fuck that noise.
Sebastian James
I can choose different file systems and modify key bindings on my windows pc.
Tyler Peterson
>install windows 10, everything is slow, my HDD is being eated and my ram usage skyrockets
>install Fedora, got broken packages at first upgrade, got shitted on with wine's dependencies
why is every OS a shit
Lincoln Wood
Name one fs Windows can use that's not NTFS or FAT32 protip: You can't
Cameron Cox
Windows still handles workspaces horribly, doesn't have a tabbed file manager, shitty file system, and is only just now getting bash. When you say "real world" do you mean people who use word processors exclusively (liberal asshats taking arts degrees)?
Logan Scott
Name one good fs that Windows can't use.
Aiden Flores
true op
when windows is bad, you're basically fucked and probably have to turn to some nonfree "ENTERPRISE" garbage ware, write some god awful WIN32 cuck shit or basically kill yourself.
Leo Thompson
EXT4 Are you fucking retarded? The only fs Windows really can use is NTFS and its a steaming pile of shit
Oliver Sullivan
>Windows still handles workspaces horribly this is true, it's one of the biggest things I miss going between the two >doesn't have a tabbed file manager personally I don't understand why people want this so badly, tabs get lost too easily, never used them on any *nix system >shitty file system bikeshedding in the context of consumer/desktop use, stop being a tryhard >and is only just now getting bash too dumb to remember Interix and Cygwin? >When you say "real world" do you mean people who use word processors exclusively the people who use their computers as tools to get a job done instead of a lifestyle/ego stroking device? the vast amount of businesses, universities and other institutions who order fleets upon fleets of NT systems every year based on the decisions of people much more well versed in the demands of their userbases than you or I? >(liberal asshats taking arts degrees) don't use strawmen while trying to take a position of authority
Gavin Johnson
You're the one taking a position of authority here, and it's hilarious since you don't even know what a strawman actually is. Linux and OSX are better than windows in many ways. There's a reason so many people shit themselves over OSX. The only thing windows has going for it is staggering software support (games included). It falls short in almost every other way. If you don't know that, it's not really my problem. Best of luck with reducing your ignorance.
Camden Lewis
keep saying "no u" all you want but it doesn't make you look like any less of a dumb bikeshedding tryhard who doesn't even know what fucking Cygwin is
Michael Nguyen
The fact that you keep bringing up Cygwin as if its relevant shows that you've never actually used it Its okay if you just want to have an excuse to have bash on Windows but for any practical purposes its fucking trash
Asher Davis
The difference is I can change the thing I don't like in Linux because it's open source. I'm closed into however Windows wants me to work.
William Reyes
>everyone is stupid but me
Owen Johnson
ZFS - Extremely heavy but has an incredibly mature featureset with guaranteed stability BTRFS - Slightly unstable but cutting edge and feature rich EXT4 - Traditional journaled file system, better than NTFS, great support in any distro XFS - Wicked fast and lightweight, highly scalable with low overhead
All notable file systems that Microsoft has the complete source code for, yet, cannot provide support for. Windows so far has: FAT16,32, and ExFAT - Scaled up versions of the all popular FAT NTFS - Hunk of legacy junk that you can barely trust past 2TiB
Chase Rodriguez
>Linux distro does something I don't like >Fuck those assholes, I'll just switch to a different distro.
>First and only Linux distro is Slackware >Patrick never does anything I don't like >mfw
Colton Barnes
>>Linux does something you don't like >>"Cool, something to tinker with! I love customizing my OS."
This is not my reaction when something breaks in Linux. My reaction is usually "oh fuck, what now" followed by several minutes to hours of troubleshooting because Linux often doesn't even have the courtesy of providing error messages to give you a hint as to what is going wrong.
Still better than Windows tho.
Jack Rodriguez
You don't need a disk bigger than 2 TB.
Julian Collins
Windows users, everyone
Luis Cooper
The more you have, the safer it is. Especially in large back ups in redundancy.
You're right though, if you're on Windows, most of the users (normies) doesn't need more than that.
Michael Hill
>most of the users doesn't need more than that. I've actually found it to be the opposite for gaymers since they download their entire steam libraries they use up their entire disk
Xavier Sullivan
No, I ignored your reference to cygwin because it might as well be a joke.
As for your repeated accusations of bikeshedding, that isn't what I'm doing. The functionality you're arguing for can be gotten out of mobile OS like Android, iOS, and Chrome OS. You can go ahead and use those. It's not bikeshedding to expect an OS to add features as they become available; that's called progress.
"Why would we ever use AC? DC is much safer."
Easton Bell
Well, most gaymers aren't that much normies to begin with. In their case, they should just add multiple 2TBs.
I wonder though, with that trick of using a GPU/Passthrough if storing the games in ZFS, would it work on the Windows sessions? I'm not really advance to elaborate on that matter. I keep my stuff separated. I just thought about it now about the possibilities but I guess it doesn't work.
Daniel Rivera
It wouldn't, GPU passthough is still a VM so the games would have to be on the virtual drive
Jason Stewart
>The more you have, the safer it is. Right, but aren't the larger HDDs more prone to failure?
Sebastian Rodriguez
That's what I thought, thanks. Oh well, let's just hope one day that Windows gets access to other FS format.
At least hey, they can still do raids. I guess.
Juan Bailey
>error messages There's error messages,they're just not in your face.
Logan Cox
Yes,now make me a sandwich or you'll get another beating.
Brayden Morgan
Well, last time I checked it used to be that way. Apparently nowadays 1TB is more at risk than a 4TB. Which I found weird out by that news. In my days it was better to have 2x 500GB in raid0 than a 1TB to reduce failures (btw, I still have that in a machine running since '06 with the same drives). They're WD Blacks.
So yeah, I don't know if it's about a meme or a gimmick from the companies to shell out more monies but yeah, last time I heard 1TB are more prones to fails than a 4TB.
I am still septic about it. I personally only seen one HDD fails in my life and it was because that person moved the PC while is was doing back ups.
So yeah, not from using but an accident. I personally don't use redundancy back ups but I manually does them for files that I managed on my servers.
I guess that's why my HDDs doesn't fail through the years because of non-constant writing, I may be wrong though.
I just fear SSD desu.
Michael Rivera
>> too stupid to use linux
>> shitposts about how bad linux is.
Henry Perez
Yeah, just wait. Windows rot is worse than ever with 10. At least on Linux if something gets fucked, you can fix it. Windows just gives you the finger until you reinstall. And since there's no package manager, have fun spending all day reinstalling software. Fuck that shit.
Jonathan Anderson
>Linux often doesn't even have the courtesy of providing error messages to give you a hint as to what is going wrong That's the most bullshit stuff i have read of this thread
Brody Wilson
FPBP
Aaron Nguyen
At least you can change behavior you don't like.
Windows won't let you. Over the years its become more and more locked down.
Grayson Evans
Once you grow up, you'll value freedom over convenience.
Caleb Nelson
>vanilla copy of Windows 10 >tries to download big update, fails, spouts an error message and tries to redownload in a loop >no info on the error message other than "have you tried restarting it :^)"
At least on linux I can make stuff behave the way I want. Only if the 2670qm supported vt-d.
Thomas Lopez
>Linux does something you don't like >Change it
>Windows does something you don't like >Can't be changed