Bad GNU/Linux experiances time! (I use GNU/Linux as my only OS, but we all have bad times)
>Hear about Alpine >Want to use FDE with LUKS >Only like two guides avaliable >Use one of them >Fuck up twice with partitions >Have to add wpa_supplicant by hand to the boot runlevel >apk fucks up repos, had to fix them manually >Can't install Firefox so I try to add the edge repo because I'm edgy >notice that the wiki mentions unstability.... whatever, I'm used to Debian testing. >Breaks everything, literally everything. Ioctl can't find my wifi card to raise it. >wew lad, didn't think instability meant literally ruining everything
Installed Devuan instead.
Because it doesn't use bridges and uses Adblock which regular Tor Browser does not.
Landon Turner
oh my, I already knew it had package problems but that is discouraging
I'll stick with Devuan too, worked just fine for me
Juan Harris
>looking at friend's arch install he made a month ago, after using Ubuntu for years >Ask why he's logged in as root >"I always use that account so I don't need to type sudo and my password to do anything"
Lucas Fisher
In my experience (mostly limited to Xubuntu) updates are overwhelmingly more likely to bring instability to existing applications than fix anything.
Is there a way to limit update to critical security stuff and well-tested bugfixes?
I don't mind missing the latest in ricing technology, I'm just annoyed by the spike of abrupt software crashes usually introduced by "updates".
Thunar is the worst about this shit.
Carson Sanders
Install Debian stable then
btw. Thunar has longstanding bugs (I still use it tho)
Samuel Evans
Determine how fucked your /dev/SSD is in terms of GiB written: $ echo "scale=3; $(sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda | grep "241" | awk '{print $10}') * 512 / 1024 ^ 3" | bc 2248.516 >time to die
Carson James
Debian Stable is exactly what you're looking for. Only difference is that you'll need to manually add your firmware (if required) the ISO.
Leo Hall
when I execute a program it closes if I close the terminal emulator window. How do I keept it open?
Adrian Turner
Thanks, I'll have a look.
Cameron Powell
& disown
Oliver Lewis
>grep, awk, bc just use awk
... | awk '/241/ { print ...
Adam Thomas
man nohup man disown
Logan Reed
>man just use info
Landon Phillips
>not opressing women by using sexist programs
Parker Collins
>things are sexist I love this meme. Tell me more conspiracies.
Brandon Parker
Now I feel stupid. But not as stupid as when I used to cat | grep
Gavin Gutierrez
why not echo > foo; cat foo | grep bar > bar; cat bar
Connor Diaz
why the hell does the network manager crash everytime i tether my phone? ubuntu 16.04
Jacob Mitchell
just because you're root doesn't mean there's no use for sudo
Brody Gomez
journalctl -u NetworkManager
What does it say?
Kayden Ward
375 lines of shit. theres a few errors but no errors when it fails
James Watson
The reason why systemd causes so much anger is because it does multiple tasks at once? that it?
Kayden Gutierrez
I need to try out the several DEs out there, but I don't like the idea of having to reinstall buntoo over and over.
How many of these could I have installed at once without breaking another? I remember installing Gnome 3 on Ubuntu (with Unity) and making at least one of both unusable afterwards.
Don't mention it. I had similar problem, wanted to test different version of same package. So I used puppy linux, since it asks you if you want to save save the changes you've made at the end of the session. After that I realized someone made the same thing as a dedicated package.
Thomas Powell
>we could implement that but nah... let compositors implement it XD t. wayland devs to every single thing
what a meme. There will be tens of implementations to every single thing and then user applications have to target those tens of implementations and... but hey, atleast Wayland is _simple_!
Luis Rivera
To the user from the previous thread that posted Thanks. I totally dig the "old piece of shit" look.
Evan Johnson
Its a good thing. There's no reason why the display protocol should handle such doodads. If you care about them, you can use a compositor/manager with such feature.
Chase Kelly
Which one takes much more space? VBox or QEMU?
Nathan Adams
disk space? some package managers reports how much space in going to be occupied after a certain operation
Evan Powell
Yeah. I missed up when partitioning. So the "/" is about 30 GB so I try to conserve disk space as much as I can. I'm running manjaro linux, and I need to test some Windows ISOs and USB passthrough. What would be easier/better VirtualBox, QEMU, Libvirt?
Brayden Mitchell
qemu is smaller and has better pci passthrough support than vbox
Anthony Garcia
>So the "/" is about 30 GB I've never managed to fill that much. Even on an installation with like three desktop environments and shitload of development packages.
libvirt is fine.
Aiden Phillips
QEMU+ Virt-manager, then?
Jeremiah Taylor
why dont you just try and see which one suits you best?
It's not like once you install one thing you cannot remove it in the future.
Jesus Christ. Stop seeking approval for every single one of your decisions.
Angel Diaz
Well, I'm asking because I'm not understanding what's the difference.
>VBox Oracle propriety with complete set to virtualize anything including android. >QEMU/KVM Hypervisor ? what does that mean? only command line? >Libvirt/Virt-manage A GUI for a library? Can you use the Disk Image from one on the other?
Bentley Perry
manjaro uses pacman as package manager, just run pacman -S virtualbox and pacman -S qemu, before going on with the installation it will report the total installed size of the selected packages
Leo Davis
>Hypervisor ? what does that mean? A quick search would answer you precisely what hypervisor in the context of virtualization means.
>A GUI for a library? A GUI for a libvirt deamon
vbox is lgpl, only extensions are proprietary.
Jack Hughes
You could use -Si for the same results with more info.
Ayden Robinson
I'm even more confused now.
Henry Parker
Plain english is confusing?
Cooper Perez
7 down vote accepted
The hypervisor is the device or software which runs the virtual machine. It's typically responsible for allocating the resources, providing the interface between the virtual machine (the "guest") and the host system as well as any management software.
So if you're using VMware Workstation to run a Windows 7 virtual machine, VMware Workstation is the hypervisor.
Daniel Mitchell
vbox and qemu are both hypervisors (vbox is in part open source anyway): >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor >A hypervisor or virtual machine monitor (VMM) is computer software, firmware, or hardware, that creates and runs virtual machines. qemu doesn't have a GUI to manage your virtual machine (but obviously it does have a virtual display to interact with the virtual machine), but there are various gui for it.
>Libvirt (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libvirt) various tools and software to manage your virtual machine, it support various hypervisors (qemu and vbox included); you can use its GUI to manage and configure your qrmu virtual machines.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libvirt usually vbox will use a vhd virtual disk image, it possible to use that format with qemu (or just to convert the iamge to another format). Anyway if you want to use qemu you may prefer "qcow" as image since it has better performances.
Carson Morgan
yeah but it will not show the cumulative disk usage including the package's dependencies
Noah Thompson
So I need to install Qemu+KVM+Libvirt+Virtmanager? To make passthrough possible?
Jackson Edwards
Let me rephrase. I want to run a virtual machine with passthrough and not use VBox and with GUI. What do I need to download?
Luis Reed
KVM is a kernel feature, you don't install it. You can use qemu alone to make any kind of virtual machine if you want so save space, but yeah, libvirt is pretty convenient and it will make it easier to configure your VM.
Oliver Campbell
How do I install .rpm package in arch?
Justin Ward
>I missed up when partitioning. >So the "/" is about 30 GB so I try to conserve disk space as much as I can. why you can't just resize you partitions?
Jace Reyes
not a good idea, just make a pkgbuild, but if you really have to, you will have to extract the rpm and place every file in its right place.
David Rogers
How does dd handle empty disk space? There's a 80 GB HDD with about 20 GB used space. When I pass this dd -bs= 1M if=/dev/hda of=/media/diskimage.img Will it create a 20 GB IMG file or 80 GB? >virgin killer sweater
Julian Bell
How do I create pkgbuild then?
Parker Gonzalez
Try rpmextract or rpmunpack
Brandon Ward
I ran extraxted .rpm package, but don't know what to do now.
it will create an 80G image dd doesn't give a shit what kind of data it's handling depending on your filesystem, there may be a tool that does ignore "empty" (slack) space
Jaxson Perez
You've already been told how to do it, yet you keep doing menial steps and then asking for more handholding.
Gavin Russell
Generally, It will be 80Gb. But if your filesystem support sparse files (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file) you could pass the option "conv=sparse" to don't copy all those zeros.
The other solution, which I personally prefer, is to compress the dd output.
KVM is already installed, QEMU, Virt-Manager and libvirt you'll need to install yourself. However, yes it's the general rule for passthrough.
You don't need libvirt/virt-manager to passthrough if you use a QEMU script instead. However libvirt/virt-manager has certain advantages like pinning vCPUs that a QEMU Script doesn't have unless you patch compile QEMU. It'll help a lot with fixing potential sound issues.
QEMU, libvirt, virt-manager to make it easier on yourself. If you use Arch/Manjaro you also need firewalld to have the VM go on the internet as it'll complain about missing shit when starting it up without firewalld installed.
Got error with yaourt that package wasn't found in AUR
Jacob Lee
using conv=sparse on a filesystem image will only be effective if the filesystems' slack space is or has been zeroed a well-used filesystem will have fragments of deleted files in the slack space
there are tools such as partimage and ntfsclone which can create full disk images of filesystems in a smarter way, by analyzing the filesystem and ignoring the contents of slack space, negating the need to overwrite slack space beforehand
Leo Bell
Damn it. The file system I'm running on is ext4, but the hdd is formatted FAT32. It's an old HDD with windows XP installed on it. I thought I could use it to create a VM disk image.
Aaron Hughes
Not him, but doesn't this mean it will take longer copying/cloning disks?
Jonathan Hernandez
>I thought I could use it to create a VM disk image. you can
it'll take longer to clone an 80G with 20G of data on it if you don't ignore slack space (eg. use dd) with a tool that is aware of the filesystem, you can copy just the 20G that actually matters
Lucas White
create a virtual image, pass both the virtual image and real hard disk to the virtual machine. Then with a live software like clonezilla clone the disk to the virtual image.
Henry Cox
i found this website look for technology on google malaysia so i hope okay for me to ask. my nephew like computer and linux company very much and have birthday 10 day. which linux is best to give? i have good computer friend tell me linux ubuntu is better than linux mint, which linux software can play game? is
Owen Smith
oh, even if you do use partimage/ntfsclone/etc, the resulting file will still be 80G, only it will be a sparse file, on filesystems that support sparse files, it will only take up 20G of disk space, and only 20G is actually copied overall you can make the file smaller by either compressing it, or turning it into a CoW format like what VM's use
Aiden Peterson
Give gentoo
Carter Flores
>you can I know that. The issue is I can't boot into the machine to make the VDI file. So I have to use this method.
Jacob Anderson
you can't boot what machine?
Julian Howard
>it'll take longer to clone an 80G with 20G of data Then what would be a better way of cloning the HDD? I just boot a live linux then dd the hdd to external hdd every week.
Dylan Thompson
hear is hard to instal? he have autism so need something easy understand
Lincoln Fisher
depends on exactly what you're trying to do
dd'ing an entire hdd that isn't completely full only makes sense if the image is going to be used for forensics purposes (analyzing slack space)
Nathaniel Murphy
The HDD is IDE hard drive from desktop from early 00s, that can't boot up due to faulty mobo. There's some software that's needed on the HDD with no replacement for it. Swapping the mobo proved to be difficult. So as a last resort I thought about setting the whole physical disk as a virtual machine, and instead of having the HDD in the open with a bulky PSU. I thought creating a VM from the data would be better.
Oliver Gonzalez
>Forensics Far from it. I'm just creating backup HDD in case the current one fails, I'd just swap it.
Jack Taylor
Is perfect for him, autism good at gentoo
Connor Watson
thank you very much friend
Julian Roberts
So all of these are -with the exception of TAR- are just dd variant that would copy the empty space as well?
Eli Jones
>tfw my primary storage is with 5 year old WD greens and my backups are a clusterfuck of 15 different 3.5" and 2.5" drives ranging from 500gig to 5 gig and I try not to think about it
Matthew Rodriguez
for that (something like a mirror, but not "active" like a raid1), i'd use partimage, or just mount and rsync in the case of partimage, you skip copying slack space (that is, you only copy used space) and for rsync, you only copy files that have changed, which may be even less data
Julian Bailey
>partimage So it would clone the current state of the HDD? >rsync This sound like what would I want. But does it clone the HDD, including the partition table? It sound like cp with more features.
Kayden Butler
I'm not really user do distro hopping. Whenever I do, I usually start from scratch. This time I love it how I have my XFCE configured. How do I switch from Manjaro XFCE desktop to Debian but keeping my XFCE to look the same? Do I just put /home in a separate partition and then use that for Debian?
Jacob Stewart
No, most of manjaro themes are not in /home. Why would you want to switch to debian?
Isaiah Ortiz
More used to it I guess. Having to update shit constantly is sort of annoying. I guess I'll wait though. Manjaro is really working well at this point.
Robert Richardson
>Having to update shit constantly If it's work, then don't update. I'd just wait for the newer release and re-install the OS. Since /home is on a different partition.
Thomas Campbell
I want to copy over my HOME directory. Which is faster? dd if=/dev/hdx1 of=/dev/media/Home.bin or rsync /home /media/ Or the old copy & paste?
Tyler Perry
Okay, I get it. I guess I'll keep Manjaro for now. Pacman is pretty easy to use and I am enjoying the colossal amount of packages available. I don't really care that much about pure libre. System runs fast and looks great, I can get work done.
Kevin Cruz
I don't understand why the hype on Wayland, is broken and is buggy. I smell bullshit.
Jonathan Bailey
Complete retard on linux, but I need to play with terminal a bit for the university, what's the most user friendly distro for winbaby? Ubuntu?
Anthony Long
Would this be a good way to back up /Home? rsync -a --exclude=.cache --progress /home/$USER /media/linuxbackup/home/$USER
Xavier Morgan
I just rsync -av --delete myself, I delete all previous backups in the destination folder.
Asher Cook
yeah, you can almost get away with not using the terminal at all with ubuntu and it's derivatives. So you can very easily get an install up and running and then figure out hwo to do stuff in the terminal bit by bit.
Jacob Nelson
>So [partimage] would clone the current state of the HDD? partimage clones partitions >But does it clone the HDD, including the partition table? no, just files >It sound like cp with more features. that's one way to put it
