Why aren't you studying EE/CS?

Why aren't you studying EE/CS?

Why aren't you designing your own custom electronics?

Because I wasted my live on Sup Forums.

> falling into the meme of having a job
it's all a ruse. the secret is to do the least possible for the least money.

Why not the most for the most money? :)

>want custom brushless motor controller
>Try to pay EEs to do it
>They all fail or give up
>I'll just teach my self to build it
>Everytime I ask EEs a question they give me incorrect answers
>End up paying some ukranian to help me, solves everything and teaches me to correct last few issues.
What is wrong with western EEs? It took me about 6 months to go from no experience to functional prototype, they have some phobia of power electronics.

I'm still not sure what I want to do, but I've been leaning towards astrophysics.
>Why aren't you designing your own custom electronics?
I'm actually working on this, after I build a few Z80 and/or 68k computers I'm going to tweak the designs and eventually try designing my own.

>Those fucking traces

I'm a mechanical engineer.

Currently taking Circuits and its killing me. Professor has shitty office hours and doesn't do enough examples for the homework so I have to use the Internet for half of it. I've never been good at grasping Circuits. Shit is complicated to me

How do I get into EE and tinkering? I have some exposure from college labs but it was all easy handholding stuff.

because no one got rich paying their employees the most money

Making things do things they weren't supposed to do is much more fun than making things to do things they're supposed to do.

>Why aren't you studying EE/CS?
I am, CS.

>Why aren't you designing your own custom electronics?
I'm not a hardware designer, but I do sometimes fiddle around with VHDL and entry-level analogue electronics at home for fun.

So, you like inserting things in your butthole professionally

Computer Engineering master race.

CS will make you a shitty developer with a shitty job.

Yes.

Pay peanuts get monkeys

Came to post this. Muh OCD.

CS with focus in computer architecture here. loling my ass off at the in-between CompE fags who aren't good at neither CS nor EE.

What is that?

Electronics don't interest me.

> loling my ass off at the in-between CompE fags who aren't good at neither CS nor EE

You are even worse. you got a shitty tier degree and shifted it into nothing. Now you aren't even a CS

Not to mention your degree. As a scientist, you are bond to shitty jobs. As an engineer, you have the title of an engineer. You have much wider options.

How can you be so retarded? Bad choice, user.

Do not waste time on CS.

Get physic/math degree with high amount of cs related math.

Learn C, Python and Java/C# in free time + book on algorithms and you are going to be better at programming that 95% cs students.

When you will have to learn something cs related you will find it easy, because CS evolved from math and every single thing in CS is just math with few layers of objects.

>computer scientists gets jobs as scientists

Not user, but computer scientists usually gets jobs as engineers.

Fucking this.
I'm working on my own business and now that I have software + firmware side nearly finalised I decided its time to get custom board designed so that I can eventually start manufacturing it. Since I specialise in software and have little EE knowledge I decided it would be best to just get an actual EE to design everything properly. I went to 4 EEs (UK) and they all had started shitting themselves when I said I want to have a high quality ADC and DAC audio path around ARM CPU. I eventually went to this Polish EE guy and he didn't even ask any bullshit questions and seemed to know exactly what I had in mind when I showed him my shit tier block diagram. I received first prototype version of the board from him last week and to my surprise everything works like it should.
I don't know if its western EEs who are complete retards or whether its some slavic superpower but I agree with you.

Western EEs who have to that kind of contract work take contract work for a reason - they are too shit to get any other type of work.

My life and time is too precious to waste on mathematics and doing grand things. I realized long ago I am only good for being a mediocre salaryman. Just earn some money, watch anime and shitpost on Sup Forums for a good time.

>EE/CS
>Not ECE

because computers are a hobby
there is no automation for academia
comp lit major tyvm

CS > CE

Would I be able to do computer work with a pure EE degree or am I limited to only analogue related stuff?

>Though about feeding the troll, typed a lot of text which would have fed the troll, deleted all that text as to not feed the troll, have a nice day!

In an EE degree you will normally go over a lot of C code since its usefull for prorgamming a lot of mircro controllers that do ur EE shit. So yes you can do programming type stuff too if you want.

How is it a troll post?

Manual labor is going to lose jobs due to robots in near future, robots may cost more but can work 24/7 without mistakes.

In IT is going simialr hurricane when they will create semi-AI, all pajeets coding forms in Java are going to be jobless.

If you want to have good, high salary and secure job in future you should focus on math and choose one of field:
>machine learning
>ai
>big data.

Math and programming do not compromise CS. There is much, much more to CS. Mathematics are a very big part of the studies, but you'll miss a lot if you only do math+programming languages.

Your claim that robots can work 24/7 without mistakes proves this for me. They are advantagous, but they are not by far capable of replacing humans, and won't be in the near future.

Big data is a hype atm , I would not advice anyone to go blindly for it. Give it several years and the market wil saturate. When you do it as a specialism on a broader base then you are more likely to preserve in a saturated market, so then go for it.

I'm not certain what you mean by semi-AI. You mean things like the automated tests generation? Those are nice when all is green, but not very readable if you have to fix red bars.

Then again, I've done applied physics for the past 5 years and found all of my colleages to be passed by even first year bachelors CS when it comes to programming efficient programs. This is off course not a problem in a world where there's infinite computational power and energy, which we do not.

go ahead ask me a question if you're struggling rn user :)

Pretty much this.

School is a meme. Quit and enjoy the rest of whatever time you have left on this planet shitposting and buying consumer electronics. Find a cozy job that pays enough to cover your bills and call it gg.

Not looking to be a software coding terminal monkey though, still a focus on hardware

Working on consumer electronics would be really neat and EE looks like the way to go

I would say that people with math/physic degree are able to use logic, this means that even if they do not know some cs related subject they will learn it in short time.

Its common for banks to hire math/physic phd as programmer for bank core/legacy.

>those dudeweedlmao traces
what the fuck
what is this meme

this desu

Where do you see anything weed related?

Arduino/RPi as platform, AliExpress for parts, Hackaday for inspiration, for advice

Because I'm a chemical engineer. Electronics scare me.

Not all EE's specialize in the same thing, i.e i am shit at power electronics but would be able to deal with your problem.

You have to start somewhere, from what i see you whant to work as EE systems engineer so it won't matter with what specialization you start, what matters is that you move up in your career.

It just gives off a strong "lol I don't give a fuck" vibe

So you're just spewing memes randomly?

Learn node voltage method and it will be a cake walk.

For tests know how to to thevenin and Norton. I used to take circuit tests for all my ME buddies because our uni literally threw some Chinese masters student with less than 1 year of English at these kids.

Yep, learn node voltage and you are king

>CS with focus in computer architecture here. loling my ass off at the in-between CompE fags who aren't good at neither CS nor EE.
But the good ones are. Yes, a hybrid degree is harder, but the good ones are the ones who are good at both. You should only do hybrid degrees if you're actually competent.

Pro tip: all the new hipster electronics have non-45 degree angle traces.

>Not user, but computer scientists usually gets jobs as engineers.
Not as "real" engineers though, that requires a professional license. Meme job titles often say engineer or something, but they aren't engineers.

If you do CS with a focus in comparch, you can get a job as a computer engineer. As in, you design and build processors for a living. If that isn't engineering, I don't know what computer related job is.

I'm at school for CS right now. I can double major as CS/Math with only 3 more math classes. But I am not sure if it's worth the extra work. I just want a job and I feel like these classes wont help me get that. Any advice?

Not the guy you are responding to, but that's because banks are fucking retarded. Proof is that they still use these crazy old legacy systems, and it's a fucking miracle that nothing bad happened with them yet.

I've finished my physics bachelor just last year, the amount of guys on my course shitting their pants over computational projects for their dissertation was unreal. Professor outright told us "don't worry about LaTeX and Python/C, use word, excel and matlab to accomplish your projects". Throughout the course we've had 2 semesters of matlab, and most of it was spent debugging piece of shit code created by guys who got matlab dropped on them whilst having no prior programming or CS experience whatsoever. Cue loads of shitty project results due to those same guys not really knowing what the fuck they were doing. And this is from a physics department that was ranked #1 in UK for research in 2014, and should've known better that, with the exception of going full research, most of all physics grads will be wanted for their supposed expertise in modelling equations and simulations. The funniest part is that even though we don't really get taught that properly, the assumption by employers is that we do. In real life though, most physics grads know jack shit about CS, and blag their way through it by applying math. I'm lucky because I self studied CS related topics while bored in my teenage years, but most of my course mates will spend their life flashing their degree to justify existing at JP Morgan whilst contributing exactly jack shit, until they finally get pissed and fork out for an Open University degree in CS to actually do something useful for a change.

cancer

Because im studying Energy engineering.
>Ultimatecomfiness.m

Ahaha this is so accurate it hurts.

Dont listen to these node cucks and learn mesh analisys, read boylestads book on circuits

>3 years into CE degree
>Still haven't learned how to build Russian sound blaster I see posted here occasionally.
I wasted three years of my youth for this?

Don't listen to this non believer.
Mesh analysis is a last resort method.

Source transforms with Thevinin/Norton is the patrician way to analyze circuits

>implying I'm making cool fucking clocks right now.

>do the least possible for the least money
So do nothing for nothing?

UCF student? My electrical teacher was garbanzo as well. Had to teach myself everything.

You now have to pay triple the tuition to go to grad school for analogue circuits.

You also have to work 16 hours a day for almost minimum wage for your thesis supervisor.

>TFW you realise that your job consists of playing with really cool toys all day long.
I think your the one falling for a meme buddy

>using autorouters

Ended up studying electrical engineering technology instead. Off to the field I go

All the power rails are manually routed, and some of the signals are manually routed.

Why the fuck would I not want to auto route? It works great and saves me an ass load of time. Also my computer is top of the line so it does it pretty quickly.

This is Sup Forums the board for Luddite tech entusiasts

Seems legit.

I always love when I post my projects because someone always has a smug anime girl with

>doing that thing
>in the current year

but never posts anything of their own...

desu your life would bore me senseless.

>It works great

Oh baby, i don't even know where to start
>traces are routed in the most retarded way possible
notice how for example the battery is routed through micro for some reason
>those clearance
Let me guess, you just kept increased the grid resolution until the autorouter finally managed to complete to 100%

Also
>Those filter caps on the volt reg and IC's
you have absolutely no idea how those supposed to wok
>using arduino
lol

>shitting on nodal analysis
top kek

I was like you once, you'll learn the most just by doing. Just like everything else. 頑張って!!

Does everybody use RPi for prototyping now?

I'm literally fucking around with robots and jet engines. What exactly would excite you then?

I've tried to come up with a reason not to. There just isn't one.

>Why aren't you studying EE/CS?

I didn't want to spend all day hanging out with smug STEMlords autismos who are arrogant because they can do a little bit more Mathematics than an average pleb.

>Why aren't you designing your own custom electronics?

I have, but with economy of scale and Computer Optimized Integrated Circuit Design, that means that designing my own is a waste of time compared to what can be done by an industrial process.

If you weren't a smug STEMlord autismo who was arrogant because you can do a little more Mathematics than the average pleb, you'd already know that.

hth

>Not wanting to be the big fish who actually knows math among the electrical pathway communication and power engineers

Also your last point seems to imply that computer engineers are simply redundant now that you can just get a Ras pi and whatever modules to do whatever task (though it has already been shown military weapons are being powered by these chips)

That is a poorly drawn implication. I don't design my own chips because industry can design chips more effectively and efficiently. I don't find myself constantly needing bespoke IC to perform the tasks of my daily life, so I don't go through the trouble of designing and fabricating it.

You should read up on VSLI, btw.

>VLSI
fukin typo

>still hasn't posted anything of his own

I prototyped it and it worked fine. Where are your projects?

b... but i am user, also i dont know why a retard from human resources wants to hire me as a Code monkey in atlanta, (i live in mexico)

Because little isolation on the pins.

tbqh, I'm really into social policy and how that policy is implemented in complex systems full of chaotic actors.

I built my own fan controller, though it was all very simple on the EE side.

Because Apple is honestly better at it.

>trips
Fuck, maybe user's right.

Did EE for the past 5 months. Got good grades but didnt like it. So I quit 2 weeks ago. What shouls I study next? Interests in CS, NASA and Lockheed. Aerospace and shit. Do not like aerospace engineering as a study though.

Study CS then you dope. Almost all companies higher CS people, but Lockheed is a shit company. Like 20% of their staff is actual full time internal people, the rest are contractors.

hire

pajeet

Not true.

Just graduated with a degree in computer science in December and about to start my first job out of college with a Fortune 100 making $90K+.

Have fun coding business analytics glue libraries.

Nigger just read your post. You're doing all the behind the scene shit

>what would excite you then
Motherfucker how about piloting the jet and having the robots you built do shit for me. That would excite me, damn nerds.

Where u from?

Sorry, I'm a mechanical engineer, not an English major.

Here in the netherlands you will make max. 35k € starting...

Are you a living meme?

yo b-dawg is that you?