How does it feel that IT will probably be one of the first industries to get automated because there is no organizations to protect worker rights?
The bus driver will still get a job sitting in the automated bus but you IT fags will all be out of a job.
Ryan Sanchez
>no organizations to protect worker rights? I believe that WILL change. For instance in the 1800s any old fool would raise a building and be legal. Now it's fucking illegal to build a building without proper licences and a whole pipelines of experts and legal documents. BUT, it will happen much later. Think like 2040+.
Carson Adams
Weapons-grade autism
Did you drop out of CS or something?
Josiah Barnes
>no organizations to protect worker rights?
lol organizations and unions are irrelevant when the workers are no longer needed.
Ethan Powell
It's obj instanceof stackable all the way down...
Ayden Myers
The whole point of unions is that they force business to keep workers even when they are not needed. If automation meant no more unions then they would already be gone yet industries with heavy automation like the auto industry still are dominated by them. Think next time.
Charles Perry
I don't know to what extent IT will be automated in the future, certainly lower level shit like phone service is a guaranteed, but going up the ladder, things become a lot harder to automate.
The human element is extremely important in IT, despite all the scripted automation and scheduled tasks and such. Even though our devices and machines are smart these day's they're still pretty stupid when it comes to error correction and working around something.
There always needs to be some expert in house who knows what he's doing should the automated processes themselves fail, as even correction machines fail to correct themselves sometimes too.
But regardless of this, I feel that IT is kind of heading into a future akin to that of trades, just a more upper level one in terms of technical knowledge. Personally, IT doesn't feel like purely white collar or purely blue collar. It feels like something in between at times.
Gavin Perez
Well, you inane faggot fuck, someone still has to maintain and oversee the machines that enable automation.
Ryder Moore
doesn't understand unions
I think IT acutually automates itself fast enough that it's hard see it being "automated" in the sense of welding robots and bartender robots until either A) innovation drops off because we find optimums in compsci for information problems or B) innovations stop being useful to business and the standardized set of features is packaged and automated while further innovation is mostly academic.
However with the continual increase in volumes and depth of information this type of standardization right now is stagnation and death.
>I've replaced myself at work at least twice with bash.
Joshua Taylor
Getting a bachelor's in Cyber Security and working on A+/Security+ and Cisco certification. My outlook's looking good, you sound like a mad little faggot who works at McDonalds
Ian Watson
It will literally never get automated in our lifetime, OP you're fucking retarded
Joseph Cooper
>getting a bachelor's with the word "cyber" in it >muh Cisco Nobody cares about your trade school degree, retard. I know more about infosec than you ever will, and it isn't even my fuckin' job.
Noah Thompson
I, too, can make bold, unfounded, anonymous claims on the internet.
Elijah Rodriguez
Kill yourself faglord.
Jace Adams
Better than a shit claim like getting a "Cyber Security" degree and a Cisco certification - aka bold, unfounded claims IRL. In fact, disregard the bit about me knowing more about infosec than you. That doesn't even matter. My bank account surely doesn't care about that.
Dylan Sanchez
Well I'll have you know I'm actually a multi-billionaire and you'll just need to take my word for it.
Luis Richardson
How old are you?
Eli Collins
im 9
Jaxson Hill
You guys know that ITT Tech is a for-profit scam school, right?
Ayden James
Don't go there.
Ayden Sullivan
so your bank account is hurting that badly from the paltry $150 cost at certification attempt when you failed ccent?
Jose Long
Got management certificates, ordinary secret clearance, bilingual certified. I'll be fine if I lose my IT job.
John Stewart
>impying AIs won't be replacing those too
Jaxon Ross
not as good as you would think. hardly no place out there wants an entry level security guy even if you have certs right out of college gotta live the shit life and be a high level tech support guy or even a sysadmin for some time before you can do anything with that degree
Cooper Cruz
IT departments have only gotten bigger the more automated things get.
Jaxon Lewis
>he fell for the automation takes your job meme >he fell for the singularity meme
Alexander Long
It's called trying to get a cushy gov job while every other cuck tries to find a job where they get fucked by their boss daily into doing extra work.
Isaiah Mitchell
Where do I look to get good IT jobs? Everywhere I look there is no respect for the IT department and it's people who know nothing about IT trying to micromanage IT projects.
Luke Brooks
It doesnt matter if you dont have the experience. Focus on getting an entry level job and working at it for at least 2 years. That will be worth more than your certa, at least for the first few years.
Isaac Williams
This is true, certs are only worth getting when your company pays for you to get them.
Dylan Perry
Exactly. They are like "extra experience" if you follow me.
Ryder Diaz
Unions make sure people get work whether they are needed or not.
Levi Rodriguez
i'll be too busy getting paid to write IT automation software to notice
Jonathan Garcia
No there is no way IT could be automated. The whole point is to help people bad with computers. If someone is bad with computers then a computer can't help them.
Zachary Ramirez
As a neet thats had to listen to all these IT fags rag on us and boast about getting paid mad bux to post on Sup Forums the last 5 years i find it hilarious.
See you uppity pencil necks in the soup lines.
Jeremiah Phillips
>tfw live in Houston where Cisco jobs are abundant >tfw currently have an internship
Feels pretty good man
Brandon Cox
Is Houston really the new "Silicon Valley"? I've heard some fags say it is and if that's the case then I might move there since it's not much different than where I live now
Anthony Hill
I'm fine with this, I'll just go do my backup job of being an electrician, if that falls through i can be a car electrician.
Parker Morgan
>Is Houston really the new "Silicon Valley"? KEK
Colton Brooks
I have actually heard people say that though
Charles Long
>Is Houston really the new "Silicon Valley"? No its full of niggers, but its so massive that the job market is very accommodating.
Gavin Kelly
>literally working to replace himself this is true cuckism
Grayson Howard
Yes way.
Hunter Hill
It feels fine. I have enough money to coast for the rest of my life already considering I won't live past 50.
Carson Flores
>Everything is going to be automated! Meaning that everything is going to be programmed! >And you IT people will be out of a job, ahhahahaha! Ah yes, the starbucks baristas are going to program the robots, right?
Lincoln Howard
Kek, who do you think will be writing automation software?
Jordan Cook
Maybe the farmers will be writing it. Or the lawyers? Certainly not any IT people, cause OP says we would all be out of a job by that time!
Ethan Cox
Fool the programs will just program themselves
Cooper Morgan
Automated Software.
Justin Thomas
My nigga
After graduating, I plan on spending a few years with local companies doing entry level IT work as I finish my transfer credits, then enroll as a 3rd year in a university that my community college has a transfer program with.
Shouldn't be too bad mm?
Jaxon Smith
Programming will become a lot more trivial. You just tell that AI what you want it/the program to do and it will fulfill that task, or create a program that does.
Meanwhile a lot of trades and other jobs that require non-static high-precision (i.e. they need to move around and not just stay in one place like in factories) will be save because robots are nowhere close to human performance yet. You cannot as easily make a robot move around to fix broken windows/doors/locks/plumbing/streets etc.
Jackson Gomez
"You cannot as easily make a robot move around "
Caleb Lewis
>You just tell that AI what you want it/the program to do and it will fulfill that task, or create a program that does. >You cannot as easily make a robot move around to fix broken windows/doors/locks/plumbing/streets etc.
Oh right, so now we've got an AI that can process and comprehend natural language and can abstract logic problems but cannot do plumbing. Sure.
Nathan Myers
One is just a Software problem. The other one is a hardware one.
Look at the robots today. Nowhere close to human performance all-around.
Levi Flores
>IT will probably be one of the first industries to get automated If you automate IT, you get artificial general intelligence. If you get artificial general intelligence, the human era is over. Losing your job isn't a big thing to worry about at that point. >worker rights >>>/leftypol/
Colton Brooks
>You just tell that AI what you want it/the program to do and it will fulfill that task
And how will you "tell it what to do" without giving it a precise, logical set of instructions on what to do?
>normies actually think you will just be able to talk to a computer in imprecise, semantic, normal English, and it will be able to magically understand exactly what you mean
Joseph Cox
So what, does that make robotics problems harder? We have robots that can balance themselves while walking around like humans do, we've don't have sentient that could actually think and solve problems like you said >to do and it will fulfill that task, or create a program that does.
Kevin Miller
Look at those voice assistants (Siri, Google Now, Amazon Echo or w/e they are all called). Comprehending human language is growing fast. So is machine learning.
Asher Allen
It's not comprehending human language as such, it has no idea what the meaning behind words is. Do you not understand this?
We've got nothing that could actually comprehend human language. The only thing Siri and such does is converting text to speech and speech to text. Nothing remotely similar to general AI exists.
AI as we currently have it is much like yourself. It can see words, but it doesn't understand concepts behind them, much like you don't understand the concept of how intelligent should an AI be if you could just give it instructions in natural language to do something and it would do it or create an AI that can do it.
If you're talking about giving it a set of logic instructions to use in order to solve a problem, then we already have that. It's called programming.
Carter Wilson
Also words are concepts arbitrarily chosen by people so we can understand each other not that they have a deeper meaning.
Cameron Russell
drossel 1.0 > drossel 2.0
Mason Cook
Yes, but we can tie logic concepts to words and we can abstract.
The level of AI we currently have is only good at specializing for a certain problem domain it's made for.
The point is >Look at the robots today. Nowhere close to human performance all-around. AI is way further from human performance than robots are as far as movement goes. >You cannot as easily make a robot move around to fix broken windows/doors/locks/plumbing/streets etc. And all of these can be done right now right away if you wanted to because they're well defined problem domains.
Connor Walker
Unless you're doing the automation it's pretty hard to understand how automation could replace complex processes, but that's happening right now, but it's slow going. Automating server provisioning, server configuration, app testing and deployment, and self-healing services are all solved problems already. Containerization and paas solve even more difficult Problems.
Im a senior engineer in infrastructure engineering for a major enterprise software company. Wer're automating everything.
For a good read on what's possIble right now, check out the Google SRE book. You can read it for free online. Right now I'm working on some of the harder problems mentioned in this book such as the completely automatic remediation of storage issues such as full partiitons.
Jason Kelly
Your first sentence sums up programming.
Jaxon Harris
How does it feel to be ideologically brainwashed into the concept of spending 1/3 of your life working for someone else
Zachary Bennett
Bro we're all going to spend 1/3 of our lives working for someone.
Lucas Edwards
>It's not comprehending human language as such, it has no idea what the meaning behind words is. Do you not understand this? Doesn't matter. It just needs to figure out the keywords. And also it will be improved.
Joseph Bailey
Come up with a solution and save the entire world of this misery.
David Baker
Full automation is the solution. Nobody will need to work anymore.
Kevin Cruz
So what's the point of buying things with government money?
Hunter Torres
B-but I won't live to see it.
I don't want to program things that I'm not even interested in, help me.
Ayden Jackson
Jajaja
Matthew Rodriguez
>See this thread >Considers automation on IT problems. >Reminds self that there is no cheap way to fully automate the procedure of Diagnostic on general IT procedures and even if one exists it requires proprietary hardware that has to be updated every time the OS gets an update.
Yeah it wouldn't work unless we like get a major overhaul of the systems we have now.
Caleb Barnes
Any reason the coming sex bots cannot fix some security between laundry and sex duty?
I didn't think so.
Liam Gray
SAP,IBM,Microsoft,Apple,Google, CSAI MIT and AT&T had fail to do it.
Everyone try make self programming system, everybody had fail.