Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.
Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.
Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com
Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price. logicalincrements.com/ >Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction. >Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build >Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo >Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build >Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build >The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p
General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed)
What are you archiving? if it can be compressed you'll want the 8c/16t Ryzen chip for faster encoding/compressing vs the i7
Jaxon Rivera
my cousin becomes 10 in a couple weeks she wants a switch but ill try to convince her to get a pc ill help make a budget one id be pro the switch if zelda didnt dip to fukin 20 fps anyway hows this? pcpartpicker.com/list/2t83BP the store im buying from has a be quiet pure power 9 for the same price which is semi modular and silver but its 400w should i get that or is 400w too low?
Logan Gray
>two seperate sticks of ram instead of a kit of 2 durp
rest is fine but maybe get a 470 instead
Ian Walker
the lowest 470 in the store im buying is like 20 euro less than the lowest 480 4 gb
Eli Lopez
>480 4GB literally a 470
Nolan Bennett
thats 7 more fps means in the future if game is 30 fps it would be 23 in the 470
Josiah Carter
Dude the increase from 470 to 480 4GB is twice as much as the increase from 480 4GB to 480 8GB
Levi Reyes
That means if a future game is 6 fps it would actually suck frames of life from your eyeballs with the 470
Cooper Murphy
>means in the future if game is 30 fps it would be 23 in the 470 that's not how anything thinks
Andrew Russell
works*
Hudson Williams
What's the best water cooler for an i7-7700K?
Anthony Price
custom loop with 2x triple radiators
Cameron Turner
Kraken x62 or custom loop
Kayden Sullivan
Gamers nexus has a very thorough and detailed review on it
>my cousin becomes 10 in a couple weeks >10 Just let her get the switch
Ian Gomez
>i7 4770k oc'd at 4 >16 gig ram >780
Would my cpu bottleneck a 1080 or 1080ti?
Colton Perry
This. Consoles are way more normie proof, pretty much 0 troubleshooting and works right out the box
Matthew Butler
No.
Hunter Ross
she cant pirate games on the switch
Thomas Thomas
You need to delid it to get good temps
a Master Liquid 240 is really good for the money
Robert Garcia
>she can literally be a criminal with a PC tho
Angel Jackson
Being 10 years old it's probably best she doesn't pirate anything. Stop being such an autist user.
Samuel Ward
they cant do shit against a minor
Jack Cox
Yes they can, just because someone is underage doesnt mean they are allowed to walk into a store and steal merchandise
Robert Martinez
>Kraken x62
That's pretty pricey, but I'll make the investment I guess.
>delid it
I've read drops upwards of 20°C, but I'm not confident in my abilities to delid such an expensive chip. Should I maybe call up some PC shops to see if anyone can do it?
Kevin Richardson
>Should I maybe call up some PC shops to see if anyone can do it? They probably won't do it because if they fuck it up they'll owe you $300 something
just buy a delid kit, gamers nexus should have a video out on it at some point
Connor Campbell
>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA If you live outside USA, you're not living in a country at all.
Ryder Gonzalez
So, pretty much can't do better for an ITX entry level gaming rig right?
Missing the G4560, but it's sold out on newegg
has to include a monitor
Ayden Jones
If you don't delid, it shouldn't be a huge problem if you don't overclock your CPU all that much. The Kraken x62 will keep temps stable enough.
And why aren't you getting a better CPU in the Ryzen R7 1700 by getting a sata 240GB SSD for $70, and Fury for around $250 ? Because a good CPU will last you longer than a better GPU
Gavin Bailey
Microsoft 8.1?
Aaron Gray
It's literally impossible for an unlocked i5 to bottleneck a GPU.
Jaxson Hall
Well sure, but for 60hz gaming a cheaper locked i5 and motherboard will do fine
or even a G4560 will be fine for the most part for 60hz gaming
Is this hard drive large enough? Will mostly be playing video games, watching anime, and doing light writing on it. How is the monitor as well? Will most likely be switching out the 480 for a newer model when the RX 500s come out in April. Any help would be recommended.
Sebastian Roberts
pcpartpicker.com/list/YsgxNN >started building in november during black friday >got the 3tb drives for only $30 each >apu+mobo=$99 >got mad rebates >built over time for a total cost of only about $600 >posting from it now >last of the parts are arriving this week >multipurpose jack-of-all-trades budget box ftw >100+ fps in warband >raid 0 6tb array for smooth video editing >red led fan will provide nice nightlight
Jaxon Peterson
Get a bigger HDD. 1TB fills up faster that you think.
Justin Ortiz
It looks fine, but you could drop the SSD and jump to the R7 1700 with one of the $99 B350 boards
Carter Torres
Best CPU for LGA775 Socket?
Sebastian Lee
>drop the SSD
No one should build a PC in 2017 without an SSD. It's the single biggest boost to performance you can get.
Gavin Cooper
Aren't SSDs more or less necessary in this day and age though? I mean, I would love to get on the Ryzen train but I feel like an SSD is pretty important.
Aiden Hernandez
The core 2 quad extreme? Just get a Q6600, why are you running 775?
You can just add an SSD later? Upgrading the CPU later is much harder.
just split your hard drive with a 150gb partion for the OS, clone it when you get your SSD, and you're all set
Henry Brown
Why do you think he would benefit from the cpu ?
Luis Wright
Get the XFX GTR RX 480. That or the Sapphire Nitro+.
Evan Jenkins
Mor. Cores.
Helps with minimum frame rates at times, is easily worth living on a hard drive for a month or so
Easton Edwards
but i have the q6600 ;_; cant afford a new system for a while, i've had this one for a few years now lot's of sata and an ide port, q6600, just added a usb3 pcie card need ram, and figured there may be a better cpu
i'm seeing xeon x5460 modded for the 775 a lot on ebay, how's that? or is there a better one?
Camden Foster
Moving info from an HHD to an SSD is much harder than moving info from an SSD to an HDD.
Noah Mitchell
Don't waste your money on 775, just save up for Ryzen R3&R5, should be a 4c/4t overclockable CPU for $129 USD
Andrew Rivera
Realistically no one should be getting an i5 build now. Wait a couple of months for the R5 and then make the decision.
i5 prices are almost guaranteed to go down by then.
Robert Bell
How so?
Jack Lewis
>i can spend ~$80 now and get a couple more years if not more out of this PC which works for what I need >or I can spend "$129" (plus mobo plus ram plus other things I may need) = $300+ hmmm
Grayson Howard
How so?
Hudson Campbell
Hell if I know, I just tried it in the past and it was a pain to do (had to do a full restart, save my previous memory to an external, then re-input it in the SSD on a factory reset). What information do you have to support that it is as simple as you say it is?
Eli Evans
just create an image and install it to the new drive?
Andrew Baker
A plain fury will not hold up at 1440p and even a fury X barely does
Ayden Reed
It's not. Most games just don't suffer much from CPU bottlenecks at current resolutions. It's conceivable that his 7600k will be a bottleneck in some future title where the 1700 would not, but at the moment it comes down to the fact that a Kaby Lake core is a little bit faster than a Ryzen core, and tends to overclock better to the order of 800MHz on air. The Ryzen chip would still be around 40% faster at most workloads, and potentially much faster than that in certain special cases, but it's just not a good value proposition for his games. To get a decent OC, he'd also need to have one of the high-end Ryzen boards, which are rather expensive right now due to limited supply and high demand. So, basically, a Ryzen build would cost him almost $200 more for benefits that he might never experience. If he honestly wants to spend another $200, a 512GB SSD and 16GB of RAM would serve him better.
Isaiah Nelson
except ya know, you won't get a couple of years because that $80 CPU will hardly be faster than what you have now
Nicholas James
Because a hard drive and SSD aren't any different to the PC when you're doing partitions
Alexander Jenkins
Depends what plans you have for your build. If you're the type that upgrades every 2-3 years then just get Intel cause it's faster now.
If you plan on using your CPU for 5+ years then Ryzen 1700 is the only choice. This guy explains everything you need to know:
on image becaus eim lazy and its 3:44 AM 8K PLN (around 2000 USD, but you cant really exchange it like this ), 3D game art, Poland. Would like to improve rendering times a little, but dont want to switch motherboard. Any advice?
Christian Allen
What will he be doing a couple years from now that will be prevented by his cpu?
Chase Morris
460 is pretty shit go with 1050
Liam Bell
2.4Ghz vs 3.xGhz plus ram going from 6GB to 16GB (and switching to ssd for OS drive) will make a slight difference, I reckon it's not just CPU i'll be upgrading
William Wright
Well if you're going to upgrade more, why not upgrade to a modern platform? If nothing else Ryzen should also have a $199 4c/8t chip that'll be hitting 4ghz
Alexander Ross
1050 doesn't come in 4gb variants, and the cards are generally even, not to mention there are no 1050s with 6 pin headers, and DX12/Vulkan seem to scale better for AMD
Connor Davis
You'll be fine. I still have a pentium e5300 in my office with 4gb ram and a 240gb hdd. It gets the job done
Lucas Ross
see $80 will cover the ram and cpu upgrade from sources i've seen i have ssd's, and everything else is good to go moving to a new platform is at least a 200-300 upgrade
Jose Cruz
Which 1070 is best bang for buck/most reliable?
Carter Thomas
Just buy whichever one you like most
Nathan Young
So I herd that GPUs with blowers that exhaust hot air might be better in ITX cases with low air flow. I realize that I may have to underclock, but I can't find a GTX 1080 with a backplate. Does a backplate really matter if my air flow is crappy to begin with? I am dead set on a 1080, as the Ti will likely just produce more heat than that which is acceptable. Is this assumption incorrect? I am using a Fractal Design Node 202.
Brayden Martin
Rate my current build. Should I upgrade my GPU next? I'll probably grab an RX 480 in the coming months
Robert Ross
The other user in the thread got me thinking. Should I just take out the SSD in my build to make it cheaper and open up space for a Ryzen CPU and mobo?
Matthew Walker
Back plates are for aesthetics
Easton Edwards
What's your display?
Mason Harris
if that's a 290 or 290X wait for Vega
Brayden Young
5/10
Jacob Walker
>browsing internet as usual >PC suddenly cuts out >restarts itself a few seconds later >can hear the windows startup jingle through headset but there's no video output >assume it's a GPU issue, decide to try turning it off and on just in case >turn off, turn o-BZZ >now it doesn't turn on at all
Oh well, my days of pretending to be a pc expert are over. Unless any of you have any bright ideas I'll have to admit defeat and take it to get repaired.
Connor Turner
I'm just going to wait until I have all my money saved up to buy it then decide whether or not to go intel or AMD (R5 might be out by then, who knows). This is the edited build (leaving out mobo and CPU for now). What do you guys think?
I'm getting two 1080 Ti's already pre-ordered. How do I connect both of them to the motherboard for best quality/speed? I'll be gaming with my wife using Aster, and running machine learning on it.
Never built pc before, not sure the best way to set up 2 gpu's.
Rampage v edition 10 mobo, 6850k CPU.
Samuel Campbell
I don't know where to start with a build and I could use help. 1. I want to build a server in a tower case with really good hot-swappable storage. 2. I have a NAS that I would like to sync from it too, so it should have some storage. 3. I'd also like it to be a VM server. I won't need many VM's up at once, just store 4-5 and play.
I guess I'm looking for a good motherboard, CPU and maybe case suggestion to get started, and I can figure out the rest. Bonus points if the motherboard has console access over ethernet or serial port
Jason Ross
Then get the 1080ti for sure, blower vs dual fan really won't matter, your case should have some vent holes for air flow
Hunter Nelson
Hello fellow ML practitioner
Brandon Mitchell
Looks pretty good to me.
Xavier Ortiz
Why are you buying an overpriced TN display? Newegg has a 1080p IPS display with VESA for $75 right now, otherwise they're about $100
That's a nice number of cores. What are your training times?
Kayden Kelly
did you actually buy the RAM?
Elijah Cox
its a 290. Whens Vega? Julyish?
Better than I thought, I guess that's mostly due to the GPU being older?
Austin Mitchell
Why are you getting a 6850k instead of an R7 1700?
What is machine learning even good for?
Jaxson Diaz
I was looking for a 24" monitor with low response time. That has neither. If you want low response times, you have to pay for it. At least, that's what I've found. Yes...? Why?
Chase Thomas
Better multi core speeds, got it new for 400 on CL
Asher Turner
It's good for machine learning. Prediction. Automation. Optimizations. Classifying, labeling, new GAN developments are cool as shit. You can generate images just by typing what you want to see. Sentiment analysis is great too.
I'm more into nlg/nlp myself.
Zachary Wood
Um no, about all TN displays will have 1ms reponse times, and IPS is generally better than TN for daily use
as for 1ms vs 5ms it won't matter, what matters more for that kind of stuff is refresh rates
