Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
X230 for 299€ with 8GB ram and a new 240GB SSD, deal or not? Prices are higher than in the US over here.
Jace Collins
4th for ##ibmthinkpad @ freenode.
Jason Roberts
EVERYONE POST YOUR IDLE/LOAD TEMPS
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
T420 45/75 HERE
Charles Barnes
no deal
which country
James Johnson
Dunno what idle was on my T430s but it was 77 max with 20+ tabs and screen recorder on LXLE
Adrian Bennett
Considering x230s with 4GB ram and 320GB HDDs go for 210-230€ it seemed like a decent deal though.
France.
Asher Rivera
well, not worth nagging maybe, i'd say 250 but we are talking about 50e of a difference here. if its clean machine, 299 is still good.
David Taylor
Need a decent gaming laptop, I don't need anything amazing, but a 860MX would be good. >Limit 450$ >Country Czech Republic >Preferred Brand Dell, ASUS Anybody got a good offer? 8GB RAM would be also preferred.
Caleb Hughes
The latch mechanism on my T420 broke. How do you open it?
Isaac Stewart
>T420 35-40 C idle 75-85 C under load (encoding with ffmpeg or playing 1080p BD with mpv under opengl-hq)
Juan Fisher
is there a win10 guide for t420 to get everything working? bluetooth led, mic mute led etc.
and also how did u guys get rid of lizard skin touchpad
Caleb Ortiz
I had a dream last night that you wrote a book.
Nolan Peterson
paperclip or something to slide the hook?
Jason Martinez
My quadro 1000m can't even maintain 20fps overwatch on low so I disabled it. Newer Intel igpus gets like 80fps on low.
David Murphy
There's nothing to grab. Pic related, the red part got broken.
William Morris
Kinda wishing I'd spent the extra on the elitebook 820 instead, but fuck that it's an extra 50%.
What's the equivalent latitude and thinkpad to this? And how much is this going for in your country?
Brody Rogers
Enjoy your loud housefire
Adam Garcia
Excuse me?
Elijah Nguyen
I wish my dick was a rat
Noah Lewis
shit
Robert Morris
>What's the equivalent latitude and thinkpad to this? And how much is this going for in your country?
Taking into account the U cpu, the Latitude equivalent would be a 6320, and Thinkpad equivalent would be a X220.
For that money I can easily get a used T430 in Slav Yurop, or a T520 in mint condition, or a beefed up X220 with new ssd and battery.
A 2170p is like $200 US max here. used, cant find it refurbished. Very few actually refurbished laptops here.
Grayson Scott
>Sup Forums shits all over the L series >Get L420 for free >Best laptop I've ever owned
The only slightly annoying thing is the placement of the USB ports. Why the fuck did they put them so close to the front right where, you know, the mouse usually sits
Aside from that all the consumer laptops I've owned previously have been BTFO by this
Easton Reed
It's only considered bad because it's just flat-out inferior to the T series and they're around the same price when buying used. If you got it for free, that's fine.
Bentley Campbell
From the previous thread...
>I have a i7 x230 already, but I need something lighter/less noisy/has better battery
Just get a new 9 cell and slice. You will regret getting a new X260 or X270.
Zachary Gray
opinions on t440 or t500? can get either for free but i have to choose
Brandon Phillips
My Thinkpad smells like the inside of a second hand car from the 1990s
Did Lenovo do this on purpose to induce nostalgia?
Parker Butler
install gentoo
Luke Martinez
T500 duh
Luke Lopez
Do all T440p's have non-soldered CPUs? What is the essential difference between type 20AN and 20AW - is one the Nvidia one and the other the iGPU one?
Hunter Parker
Is it possible to replace x220 motherboard with x230t motherboard? I want that 3rd gen Intel
Luke Myers
user I told you already, sell the 220, get the 230 and switch the keyboard
Dylan Smith
It's just gravity melting your plastic thus the evaporated smell. See you in a year when suddenly you get a 90°c Intel monolith on your balls.
Cooper Gutierrez
:(
Hudson Russell
No, it can't be done. You also can't transplant the regular X230 motherboard, because the X220 has a different port layout.
Luke Turner
Not that different
James Davis
JOIN >>>>t.me/thinkpadgeneral NEW GROUP CHAT NO RULES
Ryder Clark
The touchpad has a noticeable delay and I can't cope with it.
Christopher Miller
Use the trackpoint like any sane person
Aiden Carter
nobody uses the touchpad
Owen Ortiz
what's the worse that could happen if you use a crowbar? you cant get a lid for $24 and a palmrest for $18
Joshua Baker
>you cant
*can
James Martin
refurb x1, y/n?
Parker King
Anyone have issues getting to boot off USB? I can't even enter the BIOS screen. It says to hit Enter but it never works, goes straight to the pre-loaded Win10.
This is a refurbished X130e.
Owen Rivera
Fuck off
Lucas Turner
We're serious businessmen, we're not interested in some anarchist's paradise of porn and gore
Aaron Long
X230T
Nothing running: ~45C Browser+music+IDE open: ~55C Youtube/anything CPU intensive: ~75C
Should I repaste? This thing is going on four years without ever replacing the paste. It just seems like such a bitch to do on this particular model.
Chase Powell
What ThinkPad costs
Andrew Sullivan
not really, almost normal temps for that model, but yea four years is a long time.
Brody Diaz
Turn off Turbo Boost my dude.
Caleb Evans
T420/30
Brayden Carter
Elitebook 8470p.
Can even upgrade to a quad core Ivy Bridge.
Juan Martinez
x220 with 8Gb RAM and 320gb HDD for 190€ or x230 8Gb RAM and 120Gb SSD for 210€
Which one? I'm thinking the x230 for the 3rd gen processor but some anons seem to prefer the kb on the x220, but this isn't really a selling point for me as i have never even tried one.
Nicholas Gutierrez
I forgot to mention in my post. From sweden so prices are probably higher than what americans would buy them for. Also since I'm buying it used in person I have a chance to inspect it first. What should I be looking out for to not get completely butscammed
Jacob Allen
Quadros aren't for manchild gamers.
Jaxson Torres
I have a T420 and I was going to use my Dell D830's wwan card for LTE access but my the MC8775 card isn't on the "Lenovo approved" list. How would I get past this?
Gabriel Martin
When people on here say they need a laptop for music production, how does the processor assist?
Colton Lewis
The way I see it, get a basic x220 and upgrade it if you just want a secondary Sup Forums machine, get an x230 if it's your only computer and you need to wring all you can out of it.
They're not joking about the keyboard though.
Henry Jones
I think I'm going to just return this piece of crap. How do you ship something where you can't even get into the BIOS.
Liam Kelly
have you tried just doing F1. Enter interrupts startup and then usually do ctrl+s or some shit.
F1 should instead take you right to bios.
Noah Taylor
and also F12 to choose temporary boot device.
Owen Ramirez
>What should I be looking out for to not get completely butscammed
Thanks, looks like I'm getting the x220 to use as a portable shitposting machine. Would you mind elaborating on those points? Audio jack- Just check if it works or anything more? Brightness levels- how bright? or also just general quality of screen? Powerbutton- See if it powers on?
Gavin Kelly
Didn't work, so I said fuck it and removed the power and battery, pressed power a few times, and put the battery back. Then it worked.
Welp time for TAILS.
Easton Hughes
have a w500 so basically a t500. if you can handle the weight get it
Bentley Bailey
Realistically, how much for a x230 i7 with ips screen ? Europe I'm looking at one with 8gb ram and a 500gb hard drive : 430 €
Jackson Phillips
>win10 >everything working
again user, you impress me with your attempts at comedy
Justin Rogers
Alright lads, I'm looking into purchasing my first thinkpad, for general purpose use.
I put an SXGA+ screen in it as well as a post-fuckup NVS-140 board with a T9500. NMB keyboard, 256 SS PRO SSD.
Pretty comfy. This post is for you.
Elijah Baker
What would you guys recommend between a T430 and an Elitebook 8440w for about the same price?
Logan Ramirez
take a picture of the connector and seat post it here.
or clean both with iso and lightish compressd air
Landon Cruz
>Is a brand new model with better hardware worth the extra $150? No
Isaiah James
>Alternatively, if both of the laptops I'm looking at are shit, please recommend a non-shit one.
Literally nothing you couldn't do on a T550 you couldn't do on a T420 or T520.
Brody Phillips
Just swap in an X220 keyboard.
Daniel Gutierrez
Saw a t420 for 300 maple bucks( ~222 usd ) is that worth it guys?
Andrew Cox
The 720p screen is horrible.
Joshua Nelson
did anyone here manage to get the trackpoint buttons working nice with hackintosh?
Nolan Hughes
Unless it's already loaded with SSD and 16 GB RAM, not really. 150 tops
Jayden Gomez
I'd use it for school only (CS) I already have a desktop
William Lewis
>>Is a brand new model with better hardware worth the extra $150? >No Unironically this. The new line has considerably higher fault rate than the older pieces.
Blake Lopez
>gaming >laptop ty jsi kreten
Jayden Brooks
No chance, I (just last week) bought a T420 with a 120gb SSD for £94 off ebay, and it works a treat
Jason Allen
Is it true Win7 provides the best battery life on xx30?
Ryder Martinez
Can someone answer me pls?
Daniel Phillips
You best start believing in think-pad threads, you're in one
Jacob Thomas
any tutorials on replacing x200t screen? someone said to look at the manual last thread but the manual on my model has no info about it
Charles Fisher
T430 for sure. The main reason to consider Latitudes or Elitebooks is that they're usually substantially cheaper for an equivalent model. The 8440w is two generations behind the T430, it's absolutely not worth the same price.
Christian Wright
>feel like having a windows machine >Thinkpad sounds good >arrives, computrace >can't be removed, but only works with windows another macOS install it is
Wyatt Cook
This is just some stupid bug with Edge models of that era. If you need to get around it in the future, removing the CMOS battery works too.
Michael Powell
I would say x220 and 6320.
Be aware that the Latitude have terrible support from Dell, not even close to what Lenovo offer for old thinkpads. It mostly matter if you want to use Windows 10 and get all drivers working tho.
Kevin Brown
If you got it for free, that's fine, still much better than other used laptops. You should still try and sell it so you can buy a T430 series instead. You might even make money in the process.
The touchpad is covered with a sticker, might be hard to remove.
For Win10, install the lenovo update manager and let it install drivers and utilities. It's essential for proper functionality and battery life.
Ryder Williams
All of them. But preferably a t430s
Lucas Thomas
Programming on a low res screen sucks.
Xavier Edwards
theres a setting for palm rejection in windows 10 turn that off Huh I thought the x230/t used mini DP if thats the case then you can just swap them out since the x220 and x220t use the same mobo (same with x230/t)