Where were you when lagdroids were BTFO for life?

Where were you when lagdroids were BTFO for life?

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Sitting in my chair and seeing iOS vulnerabilities.
#Vault7

>tfw no mobile OS that's both relatively open like Android and relatively secure like iOS

seld compiled kernel AOSP without google with
SElinux by N S A
they can suck my dick

>better security

oh i am laffin

>secure like iOS
That was a nice meme last year. Apple the freedom fighter. Literally a honeypot as every mobilephone.

>An operating system with CONFIRMED backdoors has better security
lol

>developer diagnostic tool
>vs pic related
lol

iDelet

Yeah it's just a dev diagnostic tool, it has NEVER EVER been used to bypass encryption 70 FUCKING TIMES before, right?

Cook looks like my grandma.

I thought Apple had terrible security, why would the government need them to unlock phones for them? You can't even keep your story straight, androidcuck.

Only memory mirroring needed to bypass its security. FBI is damn great if you think iOS is hard to break even if it's obligated to work with authorities and not just because the PRISM.

>why would the government need them to unlock phones for them?

If you have the capability to break encryption that you know a lot of your enemies are using, would you broadcast that fact to the whole world, ensuring that those enemies will move onto something you possibly cant break?

>I thought Apple had terrible security, why would the government need them to unlock phones for them?

Because you cannot exactly go to court and tell the judge that you already know what's on the phone because you have a backdoor.
That would make the backdoor worthless and no single criminal is worth that sacrifice.

They do this with androids. See the w7g thread, androidcuck.

omg apple confirmed for ISIS!!!!!!

steve jobs? syrian??? coincidence?? I think not!! nazis confirmed

>iphone fags desperate to appear more secure
>android fags desperate to explain how outsourcing software development to poo in loos somehow didn't compromise security before CIA buttfucked them
>windowsphone fags don't even try to pretend they are secure
Having a smartphone is a terrible idea.

I have been posting there too

Reminder these work on all iphones and android exploits usually work on certain models.

>have comfy backdoor in iOS
>Android doable too, but more annoying
>leak the info that you can get into Android
>everyone who has something to hide switches over to the comfy backdoor system

>job just got a lot easier

Get on my tinfoil level my dude

That's because Android is fragmented. Which means that there are new Android phones being sold with months old software, leaving people buying new phones vulnerable to things that have been patched in newer updates. Are you seriously trying to spin that as an advantage with Android? The corollary to what you said is that all iOS devices get security updates at the same time. Nougat was released SIX MONTHS ago and Lollipop is still the most common Android version.

You google fanboys are hilarious.

why does this really matter when the cia has every version of ios on lock too

>OTA updates released every few months don't exist
k

>every few months
So you have security vulnerabilities that exist for months at a time... Fucking great job Google™, keeping us safe from the botnet.

It doesn't, I'm just tired of retards on Sup Forums thinking Android is more secure because it's based on Linux. Android and iOS are equally vulnerable. I'm just calling out fanboys on their bullshit.

>relatively
Is English hard?

Still on 5.1 here

ios 14 exploits 14% of the market share one device

android 86% of the market share thousands of devices 26 exploits

ios is literally x7 times worse

Does anyone find it funny that every year some random company throws in some meme buzzword and normies lap it up and start talking about it everywhere without even knowing what they are talking about? Just last week a friend of mine was talking about how he wanted to get an iphone because "it's more secure", despite not having the money. I then asked him what he meant by that and he simply did not know, he just kept repeating what apple shills across the internet talk about. I mean, when has ANY of you ever heard someone going like "yeah man, I had a phone but it was unsecured so this thing happened to me yo" EVER? I also asked him this and he had no answer for it. Now here's the funny thing: he's using a moto x 2014, which is stuck in marshmallow and that's it.

This shit is a fucking meme, just like MUH TERAFLOPS in the gpu market, it's specially bad when you see this retarded shit coming from the company responsible for The Fappening. Yeah, great """""""""""""""""""security"""""""""""""""""""""""""" you have there.

Here's the real deal: there is no such thing as privacy when it comes to a smartphone. The government sees your shit whether you want it or not and this has even been confirmed by the recent wikileaks leak and none of you has ever heard of a single person complaining about a problem that happened because they used an "unsecured phone".

I wonder what's the next meaningless buzzword that idiots are gonna churn around. Oh how I miss the times when the internet had an entry bar to it and you wouldn't find as many clueless idiots as you do nowadays.

>So you have security vulnerabilities that exist for months at a time... Fucking great job Google™, keeping us safe from the botnet.
Yeah because iOS updates are received 10 millions times per year, right?

>thinking there's one flavour of android

That's one thing I have never heard.

>it's a feature!

This too. You can install lineage OS on tons of android smartphones right now if you're that paranoid about security.

Actually, for those numbers Android is worse. Because it is still 26 exploits vs 14.

Anyone who believes either system is secure is delusional though. Just put your phone in the drawer when you don't use it, make sure that you never enter any information you don't want the IC to know into any device connected to the internet and call it a day.

And even then you are stillkinda fucked because the retard next to you will still have his phone on the desk in the perfect location to record everything.

>B-but Apple!
I said they're equally shit. iOS has its disadvantages. Android has its disadvantages. Stop being a fanboy.

>Oh how I miss the times when the internet had an entry bar to it and you wouldn't find as many clueless idiots as you do nowadays.

So the time before smartphones?

Still using my Android phone with custom ROMs and kernels which will be infinitely more secure than any iPhone, why do you ask?

this will go down as one of the greatest anti-American decisions in tech. For the US to refuse to hand over information from murdering, evil, terrorists is truly mindboggling. At that moment I knew the truth. These people are against us and out to get us. It's the only logical conclusion. Fuck, even during the Bush error I don't think companies would get away that shit. Thank God for the MAGA movement.

I might be alright with their refusal to unlock the phone if they at least were consistent and never did it.

But this was nothing but a marketing stunt to create an image of a secure OS that cannot be cracked by the IC.

its 26% on a market share of 86% on a highly fragmented ecosystem

while its 14 on a 14% market that is zero fragmented..

Could you try to make your little piece of propaganda sound less like an infomercial?

Yup then they did a 180 and gave "private and secure" info over to the feds.

hackread.com/apple-facebook-kickass-torrents-owner-arrest/

Yeah, proportionally iOS definitely receives a lot more attention, because it is more widespread among the elite (which is actually worth wiretapping).

That doesn't change the fact that your average Android device seems to have more vulnerabilities than the average iOS device.

Which is a pointless discussion though, because if they already have one way to get your information it doesn't matter that much if they have 10 additional ones on top of that, too.

>caring about OS level security when all your data is stored in "the cloud"

no ios has quite a lot pro exploits on a hardware base level that doesnt get fixable

on the other hand android has quite a lot on the 4.x.x which google already has state that it will stop supporting

if we actually compare apples to apples the latest versions of android is a lot less

But the latest version of Android has a fraction of a fraction of the market share despite being six months old.

Are you really this ass devastated that iOS has absolute fucking dogshit security that you resort to typing random shit up in fits of rage while crying behind your keyboard?

it was 100% pr

I actually use Android.

thats not the point its not google job to fix the damn exploits in the first place
google OTA them only on their devices and on those that actually has a stock android the rest is up to each manufacturer

while on apple its all apple and only apple

>ios has quite a lot pro exploits on a hardware base level that doesnt get fixable

Good point I suppose.

They only did this because American companies are getting blown out in overseas sales. No one wants to buy shit the US gov. can just log into when they want.

the point i was making is those kind of "exploits" dont just happen on a hardware base you dont just let a door open on uefi level
this is aslr level of thing they are very specialized and very specific so its safe to assume that they arent there by accident

the reason it seems it was a PR stunt is because they get away with shit like this now. In reality, it was completely political. I lost a lot of respect for Apple. It was immoral what they did.

The gov wanted a court decision that could be used a precedence to force companies to create back doors when the gov wants.

You can tell it was easy to get the info because a third party company came up with a solution and sold it to the FBI inside of like 2 months while this went on.

Whoever you assign blame to, the end result is still the same. The vast majority of Android users are on Lollipop and Marshmallow, on devices that the manufacturers don't give a shit about updating.

>Microsoft and Google were the first to ENTHUSIASTICALLY join PRISM
>Apple held out for five years, and RELUCTANTLY joined after years of government bullying
Wow Applel BTFO, Android users win yet again.

the vast majority of those are actually modded roms which they already have quite a lot of fixes already

What? A tiny fraction of people install modded roms. Unless you're talking about the manufacturer customizations. You're still a fucking idiot if you think using a phone that gets abandoned six months after release makes you more secure than iOS.

>RELUCTANTLY joined after years of government bullying

I just realized, but $20M doesn't seem like very much money (for defense spending) for this kind of treasure-trove of data. Is there any estimates for how much the US government spends on surveillance? Obviously most of it is black spending, but has anything guessed or looked at just the Snowden programs?

>Arguing about this shit when all of it is compromised

What the fuck are you retards doing

What's wrong with relatively?

What does your picture have anything to do with Apple's security? Every post you've made in this thread reeks of asshurt. Eat shit, android shill. Your phone is garbage.

20m$/mo is a fucking joke for what that software is supposed to do. Can't be right.
I work in a software engineering project with 150+devs, our staff costs are this high and our fucking program is nowhere near something like that when it comes to functionality.

Except it was not, people of the FBI asked apple to create a super secret backdoor that works everywhere anytime for whatever reason they wanted to lock your device.

What is worse if when somebody eventually sells that key it's going to get leaked one day and everybody can just look on the internet to find the key and hack your IPhone :^).

Nice security retard.

pic related: you

it wasn't the US refusing to hand over that info, just Apple aka Clinton, Soros, Podesta loving liberal thugs who took advantage of Jobs death and took control of a large tech company. Opened the door wide open for them.

but im sure that's what you meant.

You are projecting, shill-kun. CIA needs to bring a warrant to ask Apple for my info, they already have yours stored in Utah :)

>CIA needs to bring a warrant to ask Apple for my info
>they need a warrant to remotely enter your iPhones gaping asshole of a backdoor aplel will never patch
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lol ok

wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_11629096.html

the vast majority of them are on a pre 4.4 built
and from those many of them are highly specialized on certain apps

while on apple its already on the uefi level especially the Kernel ASLR Defeat.. ring any bells? schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/10/bypassing_intel.html

what are the chances of the very SAME exploit being found on two different uarch and behaving EXACTLY the same ?

yeah no the outcome is slim to none

>actually thinking there was some security bomb within Apple's system that would go off if Apple simply retrieves information stored on their servers

>b-b-but everyones iphone will be hacked!

Apple is so full of shit. I'm actually a fan of some of their products, too.

And a huge percentage of Android users are on 4.4 or below.

These leaks didn't contain every exploit the CIA knows of, it's very likely the leaker left out the most recent vulnerabilities as to not help people with malicious intentions. We don't know what current exploits the CIA is capable of on Android and iOS. Android is not more secure than iOS. Google is in bed with the NSA/CIA/etc just as much as Apple is. You are a deluded fanboy if you think you are protecting your information buy supporting Google.

Nice deflection, shill-kun.

t. person who's known this for the past six years

android security does't even exist, physical access or not. ios is leaps and bounds ahead of android in terms of security.

>apple security is so strong not even the FBI can unlock your iPhone

wow feels good man, glad I made the smart choice.

Yup, rock solid security.

metro.co.uk/2017/02/20/emily-ratajkowski-falls-victim-to-fresh-icloud-hack-with-200-nude-photos-leaked-to-former-escort-helen-wood-6460006/

nah, there's no iOS backdoor, Apple is the only company using HSMs for authentication. Google is too cheap to use those. Apple is the most secure consumer device available whereas Android has security as an afterthought to personal data farming.

>You can void your warranty on your multiple hundred dollar device for a chance at a curry ROM that'll have better privacy, maybe.

oh wow great gonna get an android right now bro

lololol

kek, you can almost guarantee this guy has been rooted by the chinese for months and just doesn't give a fuck.

go learn english somewhere else faggot, we aren't your ESL class

Can someone tell me why do applefags even bother trying to say shit about the iphone's laughable security?

The truth is that none of these phones are secure, android or ios, but I find it hilarious that the fanboys of the company that gave us The Fappening and 14 zero day exploits are still saying shit about security.

Gives me second hand embarassment for the lot.

This, iOS backdoors are nothing but a myth.

universityherald.com/articles/64558/20170209/iphone-hacker-iphone-owners.htm

>says some incoherent babble complaining about apple
>posts completely irrelevant unrelated image to "prove his point"

ahahahahaha

correct, problem?

>2015
damn reaching WAYYY back to find some supporting evidence
>only it's some OSX bullshit and not phone related at all
oh well you got the right company i guess, partial credit?

>icloud
>ios
you don't seem very good at this

blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2016/08/13/is-apples-cloud-key-vault-crypto/

tl:dr, apple is better than google

>b-b-but apple's security i-is just as bad!!!!
>the FBI has to ask Apple for help and sit on their ass for months until Apple finally gives over some data? th-th-that's just p-pr!!
Brainless monkeys like you are a never ending source of entertainment for the master race. There's a reason why all CEOs and politicians elect to use Apple.

>cook takes over
>apple joins prism

really joggles my nogging

I'm sure apple is just as pro-privacy as they once were though

hey bud do you genuinely believe iOS has lesser security than android? considering >96% of android is on outdated software?

you're just embarrassing yourself at this point. I get you cant afford apple products but please stop shilling and shut the fuck up.

"But the argument that Apple has enabled a law enforcement backdoor seems to miss what Apple has actually done. Instead of building a system that allows the company to recover your secret information, Apple has devoted enormous resources to locking themselves out. Only customers can access their own information. In other words, Apple has decided that the only way they can hold this information is if they don’t even trust themselves with it."

14

zero

day

exploits

that

work

on

every

iphone.

don't bother posting this, freetards don't know what a hardware security module is how it works, or how to correctly use one. Just let them be Google plebes and have their car's oil temp monitored for ad revenue.

You don't even need zero days for androids because breaking them is trivial.

You know what's Ironic? I used to own appleshit.

see Never again.

>worked
>until apple patched it, long ago