>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures.
>Francis blamed European "ghettoising" of migrants for causing terrorism.
>He cited as an example the militant attacks in Brussels in March, when three suicide bombers killed 32 people, calling the terrorists "Belgians, children of migrants, but they came from a ghetto".
>By contrast, the pope praised this month's election of Sadiq Khan as the first Muslim mayor of London.
He's right you know.
Even the Christian God doesn't support European mistreatment of Islamic migrants.
The whole thing is pretty retarded when you analyze it.
>europs bomb the shit out of a country >country's inhabitants have to flee to somewhere else that is safe >they flee to europe >WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY THE FUCK DON'T THOSE FILTHY MUDSLIMES STAY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES??????????? WHY DO THEY COME OVER HERE ANGRY AT US?????????? WE HAVE LITERALLY DONE NOTHING TO THEM FUCKING MONKEYS
Landon Lewis
Except Europe did not invent the greed for financial aid
European blame is in the structure of the system
The other is the baser greed for wealth
Thomas Jackson
>leftism is a mental disease
Carter Richardson
how is realizing actions have consequences a mental disease?
Nicholas Bell
because you're unable to analyze things properly. This disease made you dumb.
Elijah Rogers
>""""""Western powers""""" >the people of Europe poor confused goy..
Connor Long
by all means, help me analyze how bombing a country and then not wanting to help the civilians you bombed is not despicable
Chase Rivera
You have to be mentally challenged to believe that people flee because of the bombings, they only migrate out of greed. Otherwise they'd stay in neighbouring countries. Muslims started the arab spring which led to the syrian civil war.
I gave you enough informations. This discussion ends now. You are not worthy of my time. I gave you enough.
Tyler Edwards
So you're saying they should stay in equally dangerous and inhospitable neighbouring countries which you might bomb afterwards?
very good, I see you really are incapable of logic
Levi Butler
He's right in the first point and kind of right in the rest. They are ghettoised and that is Europe's fault for letting them in, but not for not bending over more to them.
Jacob Murphy
Europe didn't start the Syrian Civil War, or any of the other wars that are currently causing migrants to flood into Europe.
Hudson Nelson
your dishonesty is on par with your low intellect.
Xavier Murphy
Here's an idea, let's sell off some of that gold shit in the Vatican and house some migrants in the Pope's house. No? Then he should go try on some more funny hats and shut the fuck up about shit he doesn't understand.
Dylan Roberts
They sure as fuck are enjoying participating in it.
hush logic-incapable person
Hunter Parker
There is no left or right ring when comes to Christian teachings, the Pope is right in the christian point of view, in as much in the ethical point of view.
It is visible how terrorism happens only in USA/Europe and Islamic countries that has problems with the West. Countries with large islamic populations from Southeast Asia like Indonesia has no problem with terrorism/fundamentalism.
Also, even tho other countries like Canada gets a good number of muslim immigrants, they are not targets of fundamentalism. Immigrants are being a problem only in Europe, because they are being segregated and misunderstood.
The Pope is pretty much sober, he doesn't say it because he HATES Europe, he says it because he knows that European citizens will continue paying for this imperialism.
Gavin Evans
>let's sell off some of that gold shit in the Vatican
Oh boy
>and house some migrants in the Pope's house.
But he's done that
Jaxon Sanders
Why the fuck no one tries to assassinate the Pope anymore? He's a nuisance as well as his followers
Jackson Cook
A fuck-ton of these "refugees" first go to Turkey, you know, that pretty stable and relatively prosperous country next to them? The only reason to leave Turkey to travel on to Europe is because you're not satisfied and want more money or welfarebux from self-hating, guilt-ridden Europeans.
Isaac Martinez
>let's sell off some of that gold shit in the Vatican he might do it, since he's a commie argie but please, make a copy of it like in the British Museum. that "gold shit" is a valuable archeological item
Caleb Gomez
>They sure as fuck are enjoying participating in it.
Irrelevant. No European country caused the war, and therefore no European country is at fault for it and must admit refugees as recompense. There is a point to be made that every area of the world must share the refugee burden, but continuing mass migration into Europe would be in objection to that, not in support of it. Shouldn't Saudi Arabia, Japan, and, say, Argentina, shoulder their portion of the burden as well?
Furthermore: how many countries in Europe are currently participating in the Syrian Civil War? One of them? Maybe two? Neither of which is the main host of refugees.
Liam Garcia
BASED A S E D
Evan Sanders
>Turkey >Stable >prosperous >willing to accept refugees Yeah, nah.
>therefore no European country is at fault for it I seriously hope you don't believe this. I don't wanna sound like carl the cuck but if you truly believe that a country can't be blamed for a war because it didn't start it there's truly no reasoning with you.
>Shouldn't Saudi Arabia, Japan, and, say, Argentina, shoulder their portion of the burden as well? Why? They didn't fire a single shot. I don't think Canada should take refugees either.
>how many countries in Europe are currently participating in the Syrian Civil War? As if Europe does not work like an union.
Chase Young
He has a point
Hunter Taylor
hes right about the first point, rest is bull, especially the khan, can't wait until trump drone strikes him
Lucas Baker
As of March 2015 Turkey had over 1.7 million Syrian refugees in its borders. Their government's a bit shit, but they're far, far more stable and wealthy than a lot of the Arab countries. The West will hardly be bombing them anytime soon either so there goes that argument. These are just economic migrants looking for an easier life, there's a reason they all want to get to Germany.
If it's safety they're after, they're safe from the war and bombings in Turkey, and Greece, and Italy, but for some strange reason they keep wanting to move on to perceived richer European countries in the north.
Sebastian Jackson
>Countries with large islamic populations from Southeast Asia like Indonesia has no problem with terrorism/fundamentalism. hohehohehohehohehohehohehohehohehohehoheho
Josiah Edwards
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures. He is right, let muslims kill each other in their countries.
Benjamin Stewart
He is not wromg, though.
Andrew Morgan
That's fucking retarded, by that logic the only ones taking in refugees are the brits and frogs that follow the US in every war. We stayed out of shitty conflicts most of the time.
Pretending to be hurr so christian and praising the pope is dumb, because the muzzies are to blame for the ghettoization. If they'd integrate they'd make more money and could move away, but they chose to remain arab instead of german and move to the cities, instead of finding work in the countryside. They speak shitty arabian, and if you're lucky, really bad german, so their children won't be succssesful either, because they don't send them to Kindergarten, let them socialize outside their arab communities etc. The pope doesn't know shit about the situation here, of course glorifying muzzies is easier, more pleasant and accepted than critizing them, but it won't help the church regaining it's people.
Zachary Diaz
I wonder how long will people tolerate this socialist, pro islamofascism cunt?
Adrian Barnes
Catholics are just waving their arms for attention since nobody in the west gives a single fuck about them nowadays. Francis is just a cuck and should deal with the pedophilia problems of his church instead of trying to be relevant on geopolitical conflicts he know shit about.
Austin Hernandez
Europe should restrict immigration, deport a good portion of the refugees and focus on the assimilation of the ones that remain. That's not a far right idea at all, I'm a leftist and I believe this is the way to go. It doesn't matter if Europe is at fault for the Syrian war, that's irrelevant now.
John Morgan
Finally the first sensable post.
Everyone in this thread is just posting the same bullshit >hurr the pope's a cuck He's not at all. The pope has a point. Canada has very few problems with the muslims there because they're treated as like everyone else. Now of course muslims are very violent by nature but Europeans are no angels either. I've been there, I've seen it. I have absolute distain for muslims but I wouldn't, harass muslims just for being. In america and Canada our muslims, most of them anyway, don't live in ghettos. They live with everyone else. They assimilate, most of the time. Those who don't just hang out in small groups and are kept under a close eye by the locals. In Europe muslims and Europeans polarize eachother. All its leading to is bloodshed. Yes too many are let it, yes muslims are shit, but it take two to tango and that's the pope's point. And he's right.
Nathaniel Butler
>They flee to europe > WHY DO THEY COME OVER HERE ANGRY AT US ?????? >Argentina
Calm your tits.
Connor Fisher
>Francis >my pope
Cooper Peterson
>Europe doesn't work as an union
No it doesn't. It's shit.
>AS didn't pull the trigger
They didn't pull the trigger, they funded shitty rebels groups. Way better huh ?
Mason King
You don't know shit. We are offering german classes for them, payed through my tax money, but they rarely even take the chance to visit one of these classes. You can't live a god life here if you don't even speak the language and you don't deserve it in this case. Nobody forces to move to the cities in the ghettos. They move there themselves, they isolate themselves and their children which leads to the reproduction of uneducated, useless people. I don't see how we are to blame for this. If the people lack the will to integrate they can fuck right back off to where they came from. They need to show self-initiative.
Ethan White
is your government overreaching if it tries to break up the ghettos to encourage assimilation? Everywhere I go, people are always taking the extreme position on the refugee crisis, they either close their eyes and ears to the problems that theyre causing, or just completely memeing about the end of European civilization.
Jaxson Jackson
Forcing people to integrate is "Nazi" Position here. It's ridiculous, but they honestly say that forcing people to integrate would be bad, instead we should learn arabic, I'm not joking. I honestly start to fucking hate this country and it's people.
Grayson Morgan
Fuck south American pope son od bitch eurorouine
Wyatt Powell
He's right though and I say this as a FN voter
Fucking leftist kikes like BHL or that German pedo keep pushing for bombing sandniggers and then open the gates here.
It's like they're actively herding them over here, basically like cattle
Not that I mind dead arabs but there's no good reason to support it in this particular case, as it's done in the name of the """democracy""" we all hate and with making populations move to Europe as the goal of the operation. Why would any patriot support this it's beyond me.
The paki mayor should be hanged though and so should that gay pope desu
Cooper Morgan
Actually no that pope should be fucking burned at the stake for being such a heretic
Brandon Smith
Or nailed to the cross like good old Roman times which I might add were much better than Christianity
Joshua Martin
>If they'd integrate they'd make more money and could move away, but they chose to remain arab instead of german and move to the cities, instead of finding work in the countryside
It's like a two way sword desu. They're gonna get attacked for trying to integrate and attacked for not. Lmao. Sucks to be them.
Adrian Long
>hey're gonna get attacked for trying to integrate
Never seen this happen, people don't pick on the russians because they speak decent german, people don't make fun of the italians. Who ever tries to integrate gets treated properly from my experience, but you can't expect a decent life if you lack the language.
Adrian Bailey
based pope BTFOing the anglo roaches every single time
Samuel Rogers
I miss JP2.
Joshua Sanchez
>c*tholics >ever
Eli Hall
but its the fault of the jews
Liam Flores
He is correct. You idiots destroyed the whole region supporting Islamists as opposition to left wingers, now you have to cope with monster of political Islam you've created yourself.
Henry Kelly
Lol, those were mostly rightard governments who exported """democracy""".
Angel Clark
Top kek. Who has supported the most savage forces, who blamed left governments of MENA in undemocratic rule?
Adam Carter
>it's the white man's fault muslims are subhuman
Jose Torres
That's what you get for electing a non-european as a pope.
Hunter Lopez
Lol, of course if you have a choice where to flee you would choose the best option. You have to be idiot to blame people because they want the best for themselves.
Michael Lewis
samefag putinbot
Grayson Rogers
le tip
Xavier Rivera
Brits training"oposition fighters", Cameron lied in their parliament that they would not be involved in the war caused they secretly bombed Syria from the Cyprus base and its proved because they made mistakes as incidents in that based that appeared for short in massmedias then covered carefully. French also involved, others too.
Grayson Young
>of course if you have a choice where to flee you would choose the best option if all the shitskins flee to the best option then it becomes the worst option
Alexander White
Jesuits are and have always been the elite theological and militant Panzerkorps of Catholicism and also the most uncucked and independent from political power and the control of governments and even Rome itself.
That's why they've gained so many enemies out and within the Catholic camp, but admiration too, throughout history.
He's absolutely right, though. After John Paul II being a cuck of the CIA and the western financial-political system for the sake of wrecking communism, Francisco is now engaging them in battle.
Grayson King
I'm going to bed and if I see this thread archived with 60 percent or more posts being made by Russians, I will fucking dox the next Russian I find in CSGO. I am so done with this shit. Goodbye you fucking faggots. I hate you all get a life.
Brayden Collins
Can you explain what is putinbot? Because you obviously try to excuse your all of ignorance with troll dictionary like this. FYI Al Nusra front which is Al-Qaeda fork was supported by muricans and brits against Asad till russians start the real fight against ISIS and its a proven fact, you basically support terrorists.
Aiden Diaz
Shut up. You fuckes are the creators of ISIS. How about you pay?
Jaxon Myers
I'm sorry, can you go to davidicke.com or wherever the conspiracy theorists hang out
Michael White
>chose to remain arab instead of german That's the main problem of Europeans. They want people who come to their countries to abandon their culture and heritage and they are very racist towards people who refuse to do it. You are lying about Russians: we face racism in Germany. Germans don't want to hang out with Russians, it's more difficult to get a job for Russian, our people feel opressed and isolated despite they are mostly okay educated and speak German (btw most of Arabs speak German too). People are moving abroad to find the safe and decent living with high salaries, welfare and jobs, but they often face racism of locals, problems with jobs in periods of economy decline strike them first etc. This all often causes resentment. Many Russians in Germany are Stalinists or proputin.
>Francis blamed European "ghettoising" of migrants for causing terrorism.
He's actually right. If you guys continue to put them alltogether in slum buildings of course they won't be very eager to blend in a new society. Americans are a good example of integration that's why most muslims in America become your typical burger-friend instead of a shitty gangbanger.
Henry Wilson
hahaha Davi Dicke
Ryan Carter
But i don't want to live anywhere near those shitskins. You go.
Easton Johnson
Why? Are you a pussy? Too scared of the "evil muslims"? Fuckin sissies!
Isaiah Evans
Sure, Americans are so great at integrating people, it's surely not that fact that muslim population in the US is so fucking low.
They can't even integrate their own niggers.
The problem is not the ghettos. Immigrants have always gathered in the same cheap place, willingly. Some migrants don't cause any problems while others do.
The problem is not poverty, the problem is not discrimination.
Take the US again for example. They discriminated against everyone who wasn't German or English. Irish, Italians, Chinese, Mexicans, Japanese, etc they all were discriminated against, they all gathered in ghettos. After a few decades, only the Mexicans are still shit and target of most discrimination.
Is it the ghettos? No. Is it discrimination? No. It's culture. It's shitty culture practiced by shit people.
Isaac Cruz
No it's not. If muslims were to live among the country ethnics they would inevitabily become more integrated because:
1. There wouldn't be so many muslims nearby so they would be forced to embrace the local culture 2. They wouldn't feel completely out of place so there wouldn't be feelings of injustice that lead to isolation
Take our immigrants in France for example. The ones that stay in the slums, never leaving the portuguese comunity are utter shit, no different from the muslims while the ones living among the french are way more educated and better integrated
Jack Cox
>no it's not Nice argument, m8. You have nothing to say why some cultures integrate and others don't? Even though they all started living in ghettos? You're saying the cause for acting like apes is the ghettos, when clearly a lot of people have been living in ghettos, and got out of them or turned them into something good.
Why do we have to treat muslim migrants any way different than we treat chinese migrants?
>There wouldn't be so many muslims nearby so they would be forced to embrace the local culture No, they won't. Why would they? What is the logic? I don't live nowhere near the capital and I've seen their ninjas walking around the mall a couple of times. For a muslim to keep being a muslim, you only need another one. And, again, why should we treat them differently? Chinese communities don't create problems, they don't have to be separated, why would muslims need to be separated?
>They wouldn't feel completely out of place so there wouldn't be feelings of injustice that lead to isolation They feel out of place, because they are out of place. Because everything they believe in, we don't. We don't believe women are property, we don't believe getting drunk on the weeked is sin, we don't think it's only good to eat animals that have been killed with a knife to the neck, etc. We don't isolate them, they isolate themselves. It's not about justice, it's about they being muslim because they can't live with others. All countries that have a muslim majority have extensive abuses of the rights of minorities. All of them.
And you're seeing the problem the other way around. You don't become educated or better integrated because you live among the natives. You live among the natives because you are educated and chose to integrate yourself in the first place.
Ghettos are not the problem. Culture is.
Easton Scott
More proof we need to cast away christianity
Carter Smith
>Pope in medieval ages >defender of christianity, wants to purge infidels and convert people to christianity
>pope now >a literal cuck that is getting fucked by ahmed in the nights
Eli Sullivan
The Franciscans are only true Catholics all the rest of you fucks are heretic including the Catholic church.
Mason Stewart
>the pope praised this month's election of Sadiq Khan as the first Muslim mayor of London >he washed refugees' feet as well
Does this retard even know which religion he's a leader of?