can someone redpill me on the iran/iraq war?
Can someone redpill me on the iran/iraq war?
it was pretty neat
arabs trying to kill each other,both sides have absolutely no idea how to do so effectively,so the war lasts for 8 years.
Finn guys already told i want to.
USA played both sides for the hell of it
That was Russia and for the glory of communism.
No they backed Saddam publically and secretly sold weapons to Iran at the same time
imbecile
ww1 of M.E
no one really won, but later usa fucked up iraq and some how it became irans bitch, also iran and Israel were allies during this war.
It was honestly one of the worst wars ever. It was baisically WW1 but with much more modern weapons. Just like in WW1 chemical weapons was a big thing. And just like in WW1 the war changed nothing. No borders changed, no dictator was put down, no nothing.
It was just a slaughterfest of massive proportions. After a while the iranians started to send human wave attacks. Often these was done by poorly equiped young men and children. The human waves was also used to clear minefields.
The iraqi snipers and machinegunners could just slaughter them all, and they also did in most cases. But after a while some iraqi soldiers started to abandon their positions, not because they ran out of ammunition or supplies but because they went insane and started to throw up from killing endless ammounts of these children.
Actually it was Israel that sold the weapons, though of course with US approval
Less Arabs sounds pretty good
No, we didn't. We only supported Iraq.
Russia tried to support both at the beginning, but eventually supported Iraq as well, and to a much greater degree than we did.
I knew some edgelord would post this...
Everyone sold them weapons
As mostly covered by , it was some crazy shit.
Remember reading up on it prior to us going in 2003 and there was one particular incident where in the swamps near Basrah the Iraqi's came under heavy attack by the Iranians- but the Iranians didn't have air support so they got ripped to shit by air power, artillery, mustard gas and after a while the Iraqi sappers got sick of their shit and just ran huge electrical cables into the swamps and fried them.
Every morning, they'd wake up to 10's of 1000's of dead/gassed/electrocuted Iranians floating in the swamp, so to make a bridgehead and operating bases further into the marshes- they had sand, dirt, dead people, bulldozers and trucks- Laid the deaduns side by side about 3-4 deep and then put dirt over them, graded it flat and had a brand new road.
War is bhad, 'mkay?
cold war
usa supports iran against soviets
islamic revolution in iran
usa butthurt
usa starts to support iraq
says: "yo, this lands belongs to you, saddam brother"
iraq: "hell yeah, you right burger"
iraq-iran war
usa supports iraq and sell weapons, making shekels
stalemate
iraq and iran economical crises because of war
iraq wants to sell oil with high price
but quwait sells oil cheaper
iraq: "yo fuck you quwait, im gonna starve because of you"
iraq takes quwait
usa butthurt again
usa war on iraq
takes iraq, with support of shia and kurds
usa takes oils, making shekels again
usa leave iraq
butthurt sunnis establish isis
isis suicide the world
trump: "why do muslims hate us, we should ban them"
----later-----
turan establishes
dont even need to fuck eurobia because its islamic caliphate already
genghiz khans dream will be true
US support for Iraq during the war was relatively small, compared to support provided by the USSR.
By arms sales into Iraq:
USSR and Pact - 68.9%
France - 12.7%
China - 11.8%
Egypt - 1.3%
United States - 0.5%
Popular narrative has it that the US was supplying everything and the kitchen sink to Iraq. It's true that we ran a covert campaign to support them, but it didn't equal 68.9% of military sales.
Both sides got BTFO by one another but considering it was Iran vs. Iraq + NATO + Soviets.. It's surprising that the new regime survived
>implying Iranians are filthy Arabs
sorry, no
>Iran
>Arab
We mostly supplied them with intelligence
>just ran huge electrical cables into the swamps and fried them
Fucking brutal
>takes iraq, with support of shia and kurds
>usa takes oils, making shekels again
>usa leave iraq
>butthurt sunnis establish isis
>isis suicide the world
Fucking hell, this was the dumbest shit
>"""win""" the Iraq War
>Dismantle Saddam's Regime
>Gee, it's not like these guys will form a new organization and try to fuck my shit up lol
>Supports a genocidal Kurdish regime that starts removing Sunnis left and right
>Suprised and butthurt when Sunni ISIS forms from the ashes of Saddam's old crew
>complains that the problem is unsolvable and does nothing
Obama you stupid fucking nigger
We sold lots of miliary equipment for both sides.
All a going well for us in this war till khomini went fucking retarded and said "The path to quds went through karbala"
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arabs are fucking retarded
they sided with the US instead of iraq when saddam demanded pre-1967 borders of israel
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Did saddam actually had everything undercontrol?
pre iran-iraq war, Iraq was the pinnacle of middle eastern development.
secular
free education
university in every province capital
school and med clinic in every village, women had equal rights
highest gdp of middle east
stable
USA tried it's hardest to see how many people it could backstab over an 8 year period
Then they backstabbed themselves by accident and shit out ISIS, who then backstabbed half of Europe, and is now being backstabbed by other terrorists.
Why is USA foreign policy so fucking cancer?
goddamnit, why couldn't iranians have wanted to be modernized by the shah
he was nearly as bad as his neighbours for human rights abuses, compared to his father he was an angel
neighbours of Iran could've seen the path to truly civilized society and woud've been influenced heavily, while the modernization would've been supported either by west or east, either way for the better.
instead, we get iraqis making roads out of corpses and chemical warfare ()
*he wasn't nearly as bad
The Shah's mistake was he didn't kill Khomeni. He had him exiled instead.
He was very stupid. He killed people over wanting more economic equality, but then he lets a stupid Islamic fanatic live.
this is true, all exile did was allow khomeni the freedom of collecting a supportive population outside the intervention of Iran
>short version
usa never got out from cold war
>long version
because unlike retarded Sup Forumstards and normal people believe chaos in middleeast is more desirable than stability for usa.
people shit on usa for not being totally victorious in afghanistan and iraq but real war focus wasn't defeating them. it was destabilizing the region.
this is why after 1960s radical islam slowly started to rise because america begin to support """""""moderate""""""" islamists back in 1960s
this post seems to blame everything on usa but main reason for this was because of cold war.
because unlike rest of the world usa can't get out of cold war persona. this is why everyone from clapistan has them and us personality with city upon a hill syndrome. You can clearly see this in gamergate, general attitude towards trump, hillary and sanders, sjw vs anti-sjw, feminism etc.
Why is chaos more desirable? I'd imagine stability would make oil shipments more secure with no reason to fear the next ISIS blowing up a pipeline or selling oil on the black market.
illiteracy was something like 60% before the revolution, alireza
there was a definite wealth gap, but it would've been a much more stable society under the Shah
because either East or West claiming the region and extracting wealth would create hostility between the two during teh cold war
destabilizing it was a reaction to soviets pre-existing influence over the region, a way of making the soviet's middle eastern investment completely worthless
because in modern world energy = power.
and since our energy model forces us to use oil. oil nearly begins to be equal to energy.
if there weren't any chaos in middle-east sooner or later all muslim countries would form up a super-fedaration like eu (sounds like a bullshit in current situation but keep in mind that muslim countries had goverments like european ones back in 1960s) and with somewhat unlimited energy they would be 3rd block in the world.
when you check us goverment policy you can see this better, if your country has no energy sources usa most likely to leave you alone (see japan, south korea, taiwan)
but if you have somewhat energy source you better be prepared (see Iran, Russia, Brasil, China etc.)
yes also this.unlike today communism was pretty popular with youth back in 1950s-1960s.
i knew some ''swede'' would post this...
you act like region-destabilizing war is a good thing, yet i imagine youre not too happy about the consequences of this showing up on your doorstep
Because they knew we would've unscrewed their heads and shit down their necks along with the Iraqis if they sided with them.
>you have mistyped the captcha
>I somehow am supposed to type out clicking on pictures
epic
It would be nice for the common people to have a 3rd block, but the western billionaires wouldn't like it very much
>trudeau
kek
we let in 25k refugees, how many did you?
I didn't realize canada gets that many asylum applications.
desu memes aside, having an ocean between us and syria gives us some perks
we basically picked all the tradesmen, educated/educators and doctors while you guys had the poorest and most desperate flee to you
Yeah, if someone is willing to make the effort of moving to the other side of the globe, you already know it is someone who is willing and motivated to build up a new life from nothing. Also, in the NL, any debate on migrants instantly turns into a debate/shitfest about wilders, which is is clearly besides the point. [>cool story bro]