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Manjaro lost pretty much any reputation with the system time happening.
Isaac Brown
So I'm a windowsfag that's been shopping around for a good distro to switch to.
I was recently redpilled on systemd. Can anyone point me to either a list of good distros that don't use it, or even a particular systemd-less distro they would recommend?
Also semi-related: I'm a noob when it comes to low-level *nix, but I keep hearing that a lot of stuff depends on systemd. By choosing to forsake it, am I going to be losing a lot of functionality? Alternatively, could somebody give me a good explanation as to how things can explicitly depend on an init/management system, which I would have expected to run transparently in the background? Pls no bully
Benjamin Sanchez
>I was recently redpilled on systemd >Pls no bully m8
Nolan Adams
force the DE developers to use systemd as a non-optional dependency, all it takes
Luis Howard
>I was recently redpilled on systemd
>I was recently bamboozled by memers and faggots on Sup Forums
Ftfy
Chase Rodriguez
Because systemd is no longer only an init. That's like one of the main complaints. Shit's even affecting the kernel nowadays.
Eh I have some experience, I'm willing to get dirty.
Good to know, but >manjaro From what I heard it's basically Arch but with bloat. Am I wrong?
Explain please
I've been unironically considering something like SourceMage for the memes but I can't figure out for shit if they're using systemd or not.
Luke Bennett
>bloat What's bloat again? Definitions seem to differ here.
Ayden Lee
Manjaro is Arch but with graphical installer and 2 week package delay. This way it breaks less than Arch.
Jacob Ross
Half joking, since Gentoo requires you to compile every single thing you want to install, including the distro itself, hence the processor melting/elec bill increasing ten fold.
Nathan Jones
>So I'm a windowsfag that's been shopping around for a good distro to switch to. Stopped reading there. Ubuntu-MATE, use it for a few weeks, then come back and you will have learnt a lot to be in a better position to decide and hop on something new.
If you want to learn, you'll have to dip your cock into a lot of distros to see how they drive. If you want something that "just werks", stick to Ubuntu-MATE.
Luis Morgan
>accidentally uninstalled all of GNOME >with apt-get --purge >lost internet connection >cant get the packages again
rip
Carter Flores
>tfw """translation""" of that page is just a (broken) redirect to google translate kek.
That makes sense. By bloat I mostly mean packages I will never use, and stuff running in the background that I don't actually need. So usually 90% of preinstalled stuff on any distro which does have preinstalled stuff.
But I don't want something that "just werks". I want something better, and I appreciate that I will have to learn, but Ubuntu will not teach me anything. I already know how to use the shell and the basics of system management and package management. What else would I have to gain from trying ubuntu?
Nathan Phillips
What are you trying to do? Tag audio files? Move them around?
Nah. They're human beings just like you and me who are always learning from their mistakes. Manjaro fills a very desirable niche. Take a look at archlinux.org, there are constantly little bugs and things happening, most of them probably won't effect you but eventually one will, and every once in a great while there will be one that fucks with a ton of users. What the Manjaro devs do is a great service to keep users who don't wish to from having to deal with any of that. They don't generally keep packages for more than 30 days so you're still more up to date than pretty much everyone but Arch. Fedora gets GNOME packages about the same time as Arch though so you'll be behind Fedora and Arch on that front. UNLESS You're using the Manjaro unstable repos which sync with Arch stable. But that's a whole 'nother post.
Colton Collins
out of all the distros I've tried to use on pc and raspberry, over the years arch has always been the one to give me the least shit. *buntu shits the bed the second boot after a clean install or during updates, invariably. Every other distro broke and shat the bed during other normal use or didn't even get as far as normal use. Arch has been just werking on my laptop for ages and on my raspberry pi for 2 years, 0 problems
David Morgan
Firs time? Ok 2nd time with the same exact problem? Nah 3rd time with the same exact problem? kek
Colton Taylor
pls stop posting "just werks" it makes me angry ;_;
Nicholas Lopez
>2nd time with the same exact problem? >Nah >3rd time with the same exact problem? >kek It never effected me for some reason
Josiah Perez
>le ironic "just werks" shitposting with the sole purpose of making you angry [spoiler]Though you have to admit that it just werks[/spoiler]
Jonathan Sanders
Filtering "just werks" with 4chanx just werks.
Evan Allen
Read Read
Camden Powell
It's that an Apple slogen?
Jaxon Jenkins
>website problems wew
if archlinux.org gets down, do you uninstall it?
Ryan Bennett
>using anything but the mainstream distributions with a large user/maintainer/developer base ishygddt
Lincoln Rivera
If they go down for hosting reasons, not for forgetting to renew the ssl cert 3 times, and not when they tell me to revert my system date kek
Dylan Bennett
>under 1000 packages on Debian how the fuck do I do this
I have no idea what I can safely uninstall and what I can't shitty aptitude has no real dependency tree functionality either
David Gutierrez
>I have Manjaro already pre installed on my thinkpad
Fuck.
Alexander Gonzalez
>don't let small distros go big >let the big ones dictate the community t-thanks
Noah Garcia
>unironically telling people to revert to an earlier date because your certificate expired
That's actually amazing.
Isaiah Sanders
Manjaro is still 100k better than Mint.
Charles Hall
holy fuck not even currysoft is capable of this level of incompetence
Carson Myers
stop samefagging, retard
Anthony Phillips
lol why are memejaro devs this insecure
Oliver Stewart
>samefagging this hard stahp
Adam Rodriguez
No Nice font rendering
Cameron Lewis
Please fix your fonts.
Jeremiah Powell
>chrome what is wrong with you
David Reed
Fuck off
Andrew Adams
there's nothing wrong with my font rendering you doofuses.
just because it doesn't replicate yours doesn't meant they're bad.
Austin Murphy
KEK
>inspect element
He's right you know.
Jayden Walker
None of these are you!
Jacob Walker
>xfce edition >not using glorious bspwm edition Tried it in a VM a while back. neato.
Carson Johnson
>he doesn't rice his 4chin css
Leo Cox
SJWfox died on me, I've been meaning to migrate to Iridium but I'm the user that mentioned shopping for a good linux distro so I don't really feel the need to change my current system if I'm going to be switching my entire OS soon.
It's objectively shit and uneven you nigger
Ayden Barnes
i failed gcse maths. do i have any hope in programming? should i even spend my time trying?
Luke Collins
Post yours then little shit
Jordan Lopez
CSS is shit bloat, just disable it.
Adrian Murphy
-Creating an Infinality-like font configuration for Arch- (pic related)
From a clean slate on Arch we can now create a similar font configuration to the infinality-bundle's without having to use the patched packages. It is now possible to easily get great-looking results with the default interpreter.
1. Create the following symlinks to instruct freetype2 to use good-looking rendering defaults sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d
2. Modify (or create) /etc/fonts/local.conf to contain these contents: pastebin.com/rnDtdzt5
3. At this point your fonts should look pretty good and this is a fine place to stop. BUT we can do even better by making sure that we have all fonts on the system that were defined as substitutions earlier. To do this we need to install the packages fonts-meta-extended-lt and fonts-meta-base from the AUR which will build the rest of the fonts required.
After having done all this, restarting the X-server by logging out and back in should apply all changes.
Will snaps replace traditional package managers, or simply exist as a complement?
I.e. will you be able to upgrade the kernel using snapd, or is snaps just for userland "apps" such as VLC, Firefox, Nautilus and whatnot?
Benjamin Robinson
>derivatives that have no differences from the base distro except for more useless bloat preinstalled are worth using and supporting
David Gray
>It's objectively shit and uneven you nigger i don't like blurry shit and have hinting set to full. get over it
Kayden Sullivan
Gib advice
I literally can't into visual design, so unless you can provide a solid base for me to customise off of, I'm not going to be able to come up with jack shit
Parker Parker
>advice Install stylish, get a premade theme, start customizing colors, get a new idea, search the web about the topic, repeat.
Wyatt Harris
snap package is what your average installer is for Windows.
I doubt it will ever replace package managers because it's space and resource inefficient but will be used for convenience for large graphical applications like productivity software, videogames so on and so forth.
Aaron Allen
>install package with apt >comes with 50 other shits >purge package with apt >purges a fraction of the 50 shits that it came with
bravo aptitude
Noah Rodriguez
Use pacamn nesxt time.
Dominic Robinson
apt != aptitute also learn2rtfm
David Cox
Install 4chanX and Oneechan.
David Williams
>pacman I heard it recently got package signing - neat. :^)
Benjamin Hernandez
>recently it's old
Jordan Moore
arch and gentoo are really the only things that will work as """normal""" without systemd.. just because you're going to be fixing it half your day whether or not you have systemd
Joshua Gray
bout 5 years ago
Christian Cooper
Will this systemd autism ever end? It's horribly annoying. Holy shit.
Brandon Martin
Define "failed"
If you actually went and got a U, then consider a liberal arts degree followed by opening your own coffee shop in some back street
Otherwise, can you into logic? By that I mean formal logic. Google "propositional logic" and see if you can make sense of it. >wtf is this shit Nope, don't even try >you spend hours trying to understand it You could possibly learn programming by rote, but you'd be a shit-tier script monkey and in the current day and age that's unfortunately not really enough for employment. Do yourself a favour and try something you actually enjoy doing and are good at. >you kinda get it, it's starting to speak to you You'll never need to solve a differential equation or integrate a volume of rotation or solve a quadratic trigonometric equation, unless you're programming a physics simulation or something. If you can get into discrete mathematics, you might have a chance.
If you are getting the hang of logic, try looking at something like deterministic and non-deterministic finite automata. Just look up material online. If this also seems like it makes sense to you, congratulations, you suck at "continuous" maths but you are alright at discrete maths, give programming a try.
