Why is raspberry pi so popular for cheap home servers?
Wouldn't it make sense to go for a cheap x86 solution like the D2550, J1900, or some cheap laptop with a broken screen off eBay?
RPi doesn't even have sata or Gbit lan for fucks sake.
Can someone please explain this for me?
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>for a cheap x86 solution
because they aren't as cheap you retard
>ebay
lmao
because people don't expect to get sata or gbit when purchasing a
Who?
I purchased an Intel D2500 micro ATX board for 15 AUD.
2GB DDR3 for $3 and it's been running great.
What's your excuse?
The pi zero isn't $5 though, it's sold out and prices are inflated, plus you need to buy all the ports for it since its got less than a macbook.
i dont need gigabit for my portfolio website and a few twitter bots.
also raspberry pi setup is easy as fuck, you can do a two minute config run on a screen then plug it headless into the router and forget about it forever
makes no sound, draws very little energy, if it breaks just put the sd card in a new one and it will resume operation as if it was the same machine
>RPi doesn't even have sata or Gbit lan for fucks sake.
A cheap laptop wont have Gbit lan either and the RCP of an D2550 its 47USD, a raspberry pi 3 cost 35USD.
There's also space and power usage, but the main uses of a RPI currently are light HTTP, SSH, DNS and DHCP servers.
If you want Sata and GbitLan checkout the Marvell ESPRESSOBin Board.
Broken x86 stuff is still way more power than a pi which is like ~1W.
Not everyone is a neckbeard virgin in a basement wasting his pathetic excuse for a life away at scrounging for shit on ebay, and then comparing half a decade old semen-encrusted boards to what you can get new
Power Draw. I bet you think a 430w PSU only draws 430w. LEL!
Not an argument.
some people actually need working and capable home servers, not the piece of shit that the pi is
Then what those people need is an actual server instead of what is commonly thought of as a "home server'
Then they get capable home servers and pay the appropriate price for the capacity.
Those people are often not the same as mentally retarded losers who are unironically comparing second hand part prices to that of a raspberry pi.
If you can get something NEW for the price of a Pi and it performs better, let's hear it out. No? That's what I thought.
a 430w psu won't always draw the full power, you moron. those specs he listed draw 15-20W, so let's say a max 30-40W full system power draw from the wall. choke on your shitty pi, pls
>actually paying for broken electronics
wew
you can get something 10-100 times better than a pi for just twice the price. are you mentally retarded?
raspberry pi is only for gay virgin neckbeard weeaboos.
He appears to be, look at his typing.
> for just twice the price
That's not the question you brain dead piece of shit. Learn to read, if you have any capacity at all.
>If you can get something NEW for the price of a Pi
Can you? No.
>b-but it can do more
Clearly that power is not necessary for all use cases.
Thanks for trying, retarded loser. Enjoy your humiliation now.
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every laptop since 2005-2006 has gigabit, you moron
What's the matter, is the concept of minimum price too complicated for your dozen-neuron brain?
God, the kind of retards who have the audacity to shit out their ignorance here...
My 2009 netbook didn't.
Thanks.
Not necessarily, they may have gigabit capable individual parts but there's bus limitations there, too.
everyone knows what efficiency is, you idiot
you're missing the point
the pi can't even deliver the 100mbps speed because the fucking lan chip is tied to the fucking usb 2.0 hub
This. Even a piece of shit with dedicated 100mbps lan will destroy it.
FYI I don't own a Pi but far superior SoC
>*Tips Fedora.
How does that make it not being able to deliver 100, when USB has 480?
That's probably fair, depending on your load.
Which? What's the price like? I could go way less powerful than a Pi too, it just hasn't been convenient.
Anyone been keeping up with Freedombox?
Also doesn't have access to an RTC.
Because it shares bandwidth with everything else that's plugged in.
On a side note, have you ever seen USB 2.0 exceed 240mb/s?
Because I haven't.
Why are people on Sup Forums so religiously opposed to the idea of buying second hand gear?
This.
And doublethink pro-used with thinkpads.
I personally just have a fetish for tiny low power boards and do embedded stuff. Also I'm not running some public facing filesystem or anything retardedly heavy.
>Sup Forums is a consumer board
>obsession with muh progress
>obsession with the latest gadgets
>also
Why are people so opposed to buying a small $35 computer that doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but does the job nicely on 2 amps and 5 volts?
>does the job nicely
Kek
How much better than a raspberry pi will these be?
It's from newegg btw and only cost $10 more than the pi3 I saw on their site.
if its not enterprise grade hardware in a rack then it's not a real server
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Better at what though? More powerful almost guaranteed.
Yep.
With a case, psu and storage it will more expensive than a raspberry but will preforme better with server tasks.
I want an FTP.
Fast, reliable, under a hundred dollars total. I have plenty of spare parts to use, but I want something more efficient since it'll be running 24/7
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Oh, I have an ftp server for local shit and a few friends on my pi. It is slow and without any security.
>External old HDD in an enclosure over USB2
>How much better than a raspberry pi will these be?
won't fit in an unsigned long long. If you can have one of those (you have the space and everything.), don't even consider an ARM dev board.
Is it doing the job nicely? It seems to me like people are buying these things to either do essentially nothing, or to do a job that really would benefit from better hardware.
There are specific use cases where perhaps you might need just exactly the performance that the raspberry pi provides, but I don't think that the majority of them are being used like that.
>Proxy.
>Torrent Client.
>Web Server.
>Tor.
>SFTP
Orange pi pc 2 does it slightly better for cheaper.
X86 embedded boards do it much better for only a little more.
The raspberry pi is intended to be an idiot proof way for children to learn programming on linux. It's not meant for power. Slow as shit. There are so many better single-board computer options than the raspberry pi for low power servers. The odroid c2 for instance. Personally, I just slapped debian on an old P4 I found in an electronic waste bin. I put in a bunch of hard drives I inherited from failed laptops people brought to me, I just put them into an LVM array. This is a solid server for my porn and TV shows. 1.5TB storage, all I had to buy were sata cables.
>go from low power more expensive machines to a motherfucking fireball P4 as a viable option
>The raspberry pi is intended to be an idiot proof way for children to learn programming on linux.
What the hell is idiot proof/child friendly about learning programming on a slow linux computer?
Children really shouldn't be learning programming by fucking around with linux, anyway.
>P4
>1.5TB storage made of old hdds
What a waste of power, you could just get a router with a USB port and SMB server that would draw a 10th of that processor alone and do the same function.
I'm all for re-purposing old hardware and +1 to you user but I'm still thinking about the power bill from 24/7 usage.
>Children really shouldn't be learning programming by fucking around with linux, anyway.
Why not? are you too scared to break an OS? You fuck up rasbian, you just reimage the SD card and off you go again.
Me too.
I just used an old laptop for mine with 2 old HDDs, one in the disk drive.
750+640GB storage.
How is that any different from using an x86 board then?
At least three x86 board could serve other purposes when the kid gets bored of programming.
the x86 devboards are arbitrarily pricier.
>less than 50% more expensive
>more than 500% better
I'm exaggerating, but you get my point. You get a much wider variety of software and hardware to fuck around with on an x86 system. Good luck installing MenuetOS on a raspberry pi.
A router's usb hub is too slow for that, you stupid shit
The architecture is irrelevant to what i posted.
What cant you run on arm anyway? your proprietary crapware?
Calm down Stallboy, there's nothing wrong with propriety software.
True. Many anons will get an ARM board and suddenly find out they can't run....
>super popular x86 package
I guess the prices are coming down, they were like post $200+ when pi's came out and dominated the market.
But how bad is the lack of Gigabit Ethernet really? Does anyone have experience with the RPi as a media server? Can it handle 1080p stream to other devices on the local network?
>Can it handle 1080p stream
If it does nothing but push the video as is over the network its fine.
Any transcoding will kill a pi.
>Of course, MY WiFi runs at a constant 54MB a second.
>*Tips Fedora.
Get an orange pi pc 2 instead.
It's megabit lan, but at least it has a dedicated controller for it instead of using the USB.
Community is huge, that is all.
x86 is fine, but you have to factor in power and no GPIO.
I used to run my pi as a torrent box with external HDD, it worked fine for what it is. I have upgraded to a NAS so its just a paperweight until I find something else for it.
They do of course have the proprietary mpeg hardware blobs available for that
ironically, my router does have a transfer rate of about 60MB/s from its attached usb drive.
Transcode is a decode then re-encode
Decoding it to its own video out is fine, on the fly transcoding to another computer for example is something the pi cant do.
Cheap, passively cooled, you can cram it pretty much everywhere without noticing it.
Right but pi has that in hardware not software. It can handle it assuming ffmpeg or whatever supports the hardware.
Sure, but what about your (((WiFi))) connection. The part where it air-gaps from your router to said (((device)))
>Size of a Credit Card.
Not cheap, not small.
>not cheap
How poor are you?
60 MB/s
Doesn't matter. I can get 5 Pi's or one of those
I'd rather do some dope cluster shit
>$300
>cheap
Nigger cheap is $50.
no, it doesn't have the I/O to do both.
>What's your excuse?
Electricity bill.
>USD $299.00
>Cheap
>Let me buy a cheap $299.00 loaf of bread.
I can literally build a desktop computer and use it as a server for less than what this shit costs.
Then buy odroid.
Very nice.
Probly not for a realtime HD stream, not sure what the i/o would cap it to.
D2500 has a TDP of 10W. theyre not that bad compared to a raspberry pi 3 which can pull 10W.
kill yourself
Does she have a name? I think she might be my sister.
post sister.
They aren't. You're better off getting an Odroid C2 or some 1GbE Allwinner board with SATA.
Because this is a SFW boad.
lol nigger xd