you wouldn't over clock a 6900k or a Xeon would you?
why did the graph leave out the 6900k anyways?
Benjamin Reyes
>lying to people Intel strikes again
Hunter Phillips
Before some fag comes along to say >hurdur the 1700 Im talking about the 1800x 149 compared to 167..... I wonder why OP would go out of it's way to paint the 1800x in the worst light possible.
Roughly the same here, the 1800X at full load draws about 160W.
Now fuck off
Of course there are some golden samples which run at lower voltage than the standard.
Jace Taylor
>he trusts the germans, literally cucked by jews >while simultaneously ignoring the housefire that is kabylake, a processor known for being delidded Here, Hope you can read Russian overclockers.ru/lab/81859_2/processory-itogi-2016-goda.html
Austin Richardson
Ok dude, so you trust the Russians more than Germans, who have the reputation for being autisticically pedantic.
Whatever
Doesn't change the fact that the 1700 =! 1800X which is said to be by too many retards on the internet.
The 1800X and 1700X are selected CPUs and the CPUs that didn't met the requirements end up being sold as the 1700.
Too many retards claim that there is no difference.
Thomas Davis
>Too many retards claim that there is no difference. I won't disagree with you there.
Henry Turner
>implying that 1.45v is necessary for 4ghz >implying it doesn't take the same for the 1800x to reach 4ghz >implying all cores at 4ghz isn't faster than the stock 1800x >implying 30w more than 1800x makes even a dent in power bills Assuming the 1700 was under full load for 8 hours a day (>implying anyone renders for 8 hours straight) the total additional power cost at the end of a working week would be:
300W = 0.03KW Typical electricity unit price = $0.12 per KW/hr
0.03KW x 0.12 x 8 hours x 5 days = $1.44 per week
So it would take roughly 2.3 years of ridiculously heavy usage for the 1700 to reach the price of the 1800x, and that's while the overclocked 1700 is performing significantly better than the stock 1800x. >implying that chart is even remotely reliable >imblygin you havend been blowd da fug oudd
Brandon Barnes
You are fucking making too many assumptions.
I have posted a chart and a link to a full review, while you post a chart of 1 benchmark, and who would have thought, it is Cinebench...
I haven't denied that the 1700@4Ghz isn't faster than the 1800X.
>Typical electricity unit price = $0.12 per KW/hr
Typical ignorant comment by AMD followers.
€0.3 per KW/hr here in Germany
And what you forget is the cooling of the overclocked 1700. You somehow need to dissipate the massive heat resulting from 200W+ power consumption, which is only possible with a top notch liquid cooling.
It adds up.
Kevin Morgan
this
Also it's pathetic that the i7-5960X uses ~250 watts at 4GHz but OP conveniently forgot to mention that.
Jaxson Johnson
If you're so worried about power usage just clock it 100MHz lower. You'll take a small hit in performance for a large gain in efficiency. >You can reach Intel performance with OC, but Intel is still the way more efficient CPU.still the way more efficient CPU. Ryzen shits all over Inte's efficiency. Your Cinebench chart shows absolute energy consumption during multithreading, ignoring that at that energy consumption level the octacore Ryzen demolishes Intel's quad cores in terms of performance.
Dylan Gonzalez
>he thinks amd ever bins anything
just look at the past:
>8320 = 8350 with lower clocks but overclocks the same >r9 270 = r9 270x with lower clocks but overclocks the same >hd 6950 = hd 6970 with lower clocks and bios-disabled shaders which can be re-enabled with a bios flash and overclocked to the same potential as the 6970
AMD don't bin their chips. they simply set different frequency tiers for each product. Occasionally (rarely) a product doesn't meet the frequency tier of the higher end model so it is turned into a lower end product but these make up 1% of the 1700 chips. The rest are just 1800x chips with lower clockspeeds in order to have enough stock to sell.
Aaron Murphy
>germany lol
Also the stock cooler is usually enough for the 1700 @ 4GHz.
Adam Miller
>Friendly reminder the 1700 is not the CPU to get if you care for electricity usage nice try amd.
Angel Garcia
>overclock 1700 beyond the levels of an 1800x means it uses more power than the 1800x Wow!! That's so unheard of!!!! How is this even possible?!11!
Have you considered that if you overclocked it to 3.7ghz it wouldn't use 200w? probably would use the same as the 1800x at 3.7ghz. Really makes ya think.
Jack Kelly
Nobody cares about those shit CPUs.
I only care for CPUs that are sold for max. 350$/€ and compare CPUs that are in the same price range.
>X did something in the past, which means X will do that again now and in the future
Nice logic
It's only reasonable for me to claim that 1800X and the 1700X must meet the requirements (certain clockfrequencies set at certain voltages) to be sold as such.
Of course it's gonna be tested before it lands into the packaging.
Again, look at any review out there.
To get the 1700 at the clocking of a 1800X, you need a higher voltage set compared to the 1800X.
Jonathan Reed
>Nobody cares about those shit CPUs. exactly which is why intel is a shit investment
>I only care for CPUs that are sold for max. 350$/€ and compare CPUs that are in the same price range. Yeah and the R7 1700 is what you're looking for.
You can easily achieve ~100 watt power consumption at 3.8 GHz which is only a 5% performance loss from 4GHz.
see
Nolan Hughes
LEISTUNGSAUFNAHME
haha fuck off nazi ass motherfucker
Jaxson Garcia
They literally use the same power when overclocked. the 1800x managed an extra 100mhz and used the same amount of watts. >$170 for 100mhz if 0.5% performance is worth $170 to you then clearly money is not object. Go buy a 6950x instead or maybe a 22 core xeon. They offer more additional performance over the 1800x than the 4.1ghz 1800x has over a 4ghz 1700. so if it's worth it to you to get the 1800x then it must be worth it to get the 6950x as well.
Andrew Smith
>massive heat any decent air cooler can handle that even the stock cooler is good up to 3.8ghz
Jackson Rivera
How does does the 7700K beat the 6900k in in single thread performance?
Levi Robinson
8% better IPC since it's kaby-lake vs broadwell, also significantly higher clockpeed.
> 50w increase of power consumption oc-d compared to other CPU-s > recalculates electric bill > Could save 20 cents per week I hate these muh electric bill posters, you don't save shit.
Andrew Long
>which is only possible with a top notch liquid cooling. are you actually retarded? Air coolers can do 300W easy. Just because your shit intel delidlake needs you to pump vastly higher amounts of heat out of the lid doesn't mean all chips are the same.
Ryan Thompson
>still referencing leaks a month after release
David Rodriguez
>To reach 4Ghz all cores, you have to up the voltage above 1.45V
Nope.
Michael Martinez
What are you comparing the power consumption to? Compared to a stock 1800x it's 65w more at full load. Assuming you keep it at full load that's 3.51€ with your shitty power price. But I doubt you'd render or export video that much every day.
>You somehow need to dissipate the massive heat resulting from 200W+ power consumption, which is only possible with a top notch liquid cooling. You don't know what you're talking about. A beefy air cooler or any AIO liquid cooler is fine.
Jordan Stewart
Nice try intel merchant, you can fuck off now
Jaxon Howard
>bumping a dead thread an hour later
Hey OP. Not got enough (You)s yet? Here's one on the house, buddy. Enjoy!
Jayden Morgan
im not op you stupid newfag
Gabriel Richardson
Just buy the 7700K am I right go- I mean guys.
Evan Lee
>1.550V
Ayden Myers
>he thinks VID is Vcore
Adam Reed
Average is 1.2 mong, but im pretty sure intel shills don't care about those things
Easton Allen
lmao, and I thought I was stupid
Zachary Taylor
It doesn't mean anything anyway. VID is the voltage that the CPU is requesting, not what's actually being delivered. It's always much higher than the actual vcore on both AMD and Intel chips when overclocked. The actual vcore of 1.356V is at the bottom of the page.
