Net Neutrality is ded

fortune.com/2017/04/01/trump-net-neutrality/

Trump is going to target Net Neutrality next. RIP Internet.

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Fuck that jew loving zionist faggot. Sup Forums is so deluded they think a jew lover like trump will bring about the final solution.

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>fortune.com

At least you've been ridiculed out of using CNN for your weak shilling

I guess videos of spicy saying so is fake news.

Haha FUCK TRMUPF

Us based Hilldogs knew who truly stood behind freedom and progress.

>jew loving
>has been slowly btfo of jews and isreali pm

You sure about that one ahmed?

Damn, fuck Drumpf! It's all his fault! Why are the rest of the Conservatives like Paul Ryan and friends not standing up to him?! I assume they're on my side anyway, because I've been busy blaming everything on the big orange lightning rod and not really paying attention to them...

drmmupff will NEVEr be president he is lITERALLY HITLER omg Im literally crying so hard rn

net neutrality is basically a gimme dat for netflix users , it says ISPs can't charge companies like Netflix more for using all the bandwidth

That's wrong, we're not having this discussion again.

>net neutrality fags think that this should be illegal

>physical mail is comparable to electronic communication

back to Sup Forums you luddite

>Has jewish family members and is proud of it
>Had a rabbi at his inauguration
>Defends Israel and is against palestine
>Doesn't want a permanent ban on all immigrants and is a civic nationalists
Keep sucking that cock you deluded fuck. Trump is just another zionist, another 4-8 years of waiting for a pro white president.

fortune.com is part of the LIBERAL MEDIA spinning its propaganda

The Obama administration was Installing MORE of the DEEP STATE through agency Regulations.

Thus SHUTTING DOWN opposing views, but Opening democrat Agenda outfits like FB and google to do whatever they want.

COMMON Pattern with democrats

burger here all I really want is faster internet standards desu

1mbps internet should be illegal in our current year. Make 5mbps uncapped the universal standard.

Repeal everything passed by the Marxist Obama administration! Everything!

Thank your corrupt politicians for ISPs cucking you with quasi monopolies

>There are people on Sup Forums right now that support Trump in dismantling net neutrality.

Please apply your critical thinking skills.

If Net Neutrality is disbanded, ISPs can throttle traffic that doesn't suit their business interests (Netflix, Opposing media, open forums, etc). They can completely control what information you get over the internet, whether it be by firewalling or throttling. Don't even pretend for a second that you have other alternative news and information sources that haven't been tainted by someone's business interest. The open internet as it is now provides the greatest chance of accessing all opinions and arguments. How the hell would people on an anonymous imageboard support the control of the internet by major corporations?

It's not even a good analogy. Which, lf course it's not as all Trump cock suckers are brain addled. What that is an analogy to is for speeds you pay for. If you or I would pay for 100Mbs, then of course we'll have faster speeds than the guy who pays for 50.

The only way that analogy works for Net Neutrality is if your startup company pays USPS for 3 day shipping. But Amazon also pays for 3 day shipping of their products. But they have way more money than you, so they get to pay extra to slow your deliveries down.

Net Neutrality is the worst thing for the Freedoms of the individual. Leftist fell for more obama lies and the government took more control of the free market from us.
Net Neutrality does not make things neutral, it castrated free market.
Its Like Communism where everyone is equally poor, if you Like Communism then you will love Net Neutrality.

Obama wiretapped Trump during the election campaign. Now the Dems are up in arms about privacy.

No he didn't

Here come the shills. What country do you hail from comrade?

>Net Neutrality is ded
Only in the US, just move to a first world country already like australia.

this. so this.

US is the only country with legit NN.

Yuroclaps and Ausfailia routinely block websites on the grounds of hate speech or piracy. We dont have censorship in the US.

That has no relevance to net neutrality. There also hasn't been any concrete evidence that proves that it happened. Please try again.

Have you even cracked open a history or economics book? Stop throwing around labels like a fucking moron. This has nothing to do with Economics. This is about whether or not ISPs are required to retain the privacy of the people and treat all traffic, regardless of destination, equally. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you think that net neutrality infringes on the rights of the consumer/individual.

With proof:

torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-and-other-pirate-sites-will-be-blocked-in-australia-161215/

Are you thinking a shitty block of torrenting sites that you can get around by switching DNS-server is worse than the IPS being able to sell your data?

Obama gave Google the internet to sell your privacy to the highest bidder. It has nothing to do with neutrality or internet access.

Net Neutrality is SOCIALISM! Why would you want that unless you are a cuck?

Net Neutrality policies ensure everyone has the same low speeds, and anyone who wants more can't because it's illegal to sell anything faster or with more data than what everyone else has...thus a neutral internet.

END Net Neutrality NOW! I don't want to go back to 28k because some socialist living with mommy and daddy can't afford gigabit.

No, he didn't. You give your information to Google by using any service with them. It is in their service agreements. That happened long before Obama was in office, and he also had absolutely no part in facilitating that. The difference between Google selling information and ISPs selling information is that most people don't have equal options to alternative ISPs that won't sell your data and provide the same level of service. Plenty of service alternatives exist if you don't want Google to spy on your information and emails.

There is a huge difference between ISPs and Web Service Corporations.

You are truly the biggest fucking retard on this site, consider leaving it.
Forever.

This isn't about isps trawling our info, this is about reversing Obamas fake "privacy" scam, which was as concerned about your privacy as Obamacare was concerned about your health. Let Trump undo the damage, let Bannon undo the administrative state.

Haha muricans

>Thinking it's about what actually happened and not what the plebs think happened

The Democrats are in bed with the (((MSM))) so they are predominantly controlling the message.

The problem with this kindof legislation is it's creating law interested at provoking technology to exist which currently doesn't. There are two perspectives on net neutrality in that some believe it will ((empower)) consumers to buy access to specific domains (usual normie trash bundle) possibly they think this will lower the price to consumers although the causation here is tenuous..

The other perspective is that regulation of this kind of thing inherently hurts the consumer Because it gives less choice for example "gee this cloud storage I am offered really sucks I wish I could use another service/domain but I would have to pay my ISP more to offer me access to the open market of competitive cloud storage"

Basically I feel the cascade should run

Innovative unprecedented new technology --->>> law created to protect citizens from bad implementations of that tech ie inferior craftsmanship, toxic chemicals in the product, irradiating the consumer, etc

Not

Law created to shape technology that might exist and might serve the lobbyists ---->>> bastardized technology designed to maximize profitability

Dont worry, we'll ruin it for you too...

No, Zero, no...

4k by 4k blurry image of an ugly fat

Top choice!

>which currently doesn't
Your home router has QoS settings. Undoing neutrality makes it legal for ISPs to set them on their upstream routers or border gateways, to fuck you and content providers both out of a monthly subscription fee on top of what you pay for basic access in exchange for slightly looser QoS policies. It's horse shit and does nothing but pad ISP wallets at the expense of everyone who actually uses the Internet.

Amazon pays way less than you do for the same shipment you retard. For the price you pay for 3 day shipping they can get 1 day shipping.

That is not at all what net neutrality accomplishes. Net neutrality is about mandatory privacy mechanisms and restricting ISPs from censoring/throttling web services based on their business interests. There is no stipulation about what service level they have to provide, even though they have been provided with MILLIONS of dollars in subsidies to improve their infrastructure. The only way that ISPs will actually give a shit about improving their infrastructure and internet speeds for the consumer is if there is enough competition to do so or there are regulations in place that force them to do so.

>Net neutrality fags think this should be illegal

Nothing to hide you stupid cuck, like a cuckold like you can do anything about it.

>5
>not 25 AT LEAST

Sanders was pro white and you kept being all spooked about him because muh commies.

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Fucking kill yourself

Hey liberals...

In the same way twitter/Facebook can censor And track because they are private, so can Comcast

If you don't like it then get a $7 vpn!

But don't whine about "net neutrality" when free speech disappeared under obama

Net neutrality was about regulating bandwidth inside isp's. The federal government should not be going there. They should not control bandwidth. The market should.

no

that's discrimination based on bandwidth, not source. net neutrality has no problem with that

That's discrimination based on destination.

What ever, libtard. I know what Net Neutrality is, not what Communist News Network says it is.

Comrade Drumpf will sell you down the river.
Conservatards will never learn.

This is about whether ISPs have the right to sell your information about your internet traffic and its contents, as well as whether they have the right to limit your access to various parts of the internet, including Sup Forums. Net neutrality is the position that ISPs should not be allowed to do either. You are eating the shit straight from the horse's ass here when you genuinely believe that Trump is seeking to afford the individual privacy rights from ISPs by striking down net neutrality. If you had read anything about what net neutrality actually is (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality), you would realize that Trump is in favor of the large ISPs and maximizing their profits over the interests of the individual.

>Democrats are in bed with the mainstream media so they are controlling the message
I agree, but I will also say that Trump's primary information sources of Breitbart and Infowars are not even close to being acceptable candidates for fair & unbiased reporting. AP is where its at. Also, Dems control CNN & NBC just like the Reps control FOX.

>"gee this cloud storage I am offered really sucks I wish I could use another service/domain but I would have to pay my ISP more to offer me access to the open market of competitive cloud storage"
Enforcing net neutrality prevents exactly this. How the fuck are you not getting this? Read the Wikipedia link above.

no

read closer.

rates out to the internet are source agnostic

i don't care what people do in within their own private networks

>libtard
>Communist News Network
Are you parodying trump supporters?
Or, are you really THAT bad?

Except there is no private network between different AWS regions.

Um, that is what CNN stands for.

He's gonna build a wall!! :---DDDD

Are you legitimately retarded?

This is a pricing list for traffic using Amazon Web Services, a VPS hosting service, not an ISP. Amazon Web Services hosts servers for people to set up things like websites. AWS is NOT an ISP. Please submit relevant evidence to your argument.

>Net Neutrality does not make things neutral, it castrated free market.
Stop spewing propaganda

All net neutrality does is make the ISP treat all traffic equally, similar to a utility like gas or electric. Your power company doesn't care what you use the power on.

It is extremely important for privacy

And where in that entire wikpedia article does it mention privacy at all, except for "Alok Bhardwaj, founder of Epic Privacy Browser"? You should at least read the stuff you cite.

If you have a 100mbit connection at home and it's mostly idle then you're not going to cap something at 1mbit just because it's possible.

A lot of NIX points have public graphs you can go look at. Most ispisp connections sit at 10% and peak around 40-50%.

If a big ISP can get away with charging 10x what they need to or charge you for something that easily could be free then they will. Just look at how telco's were charging for SMS messages, and a few still do.

and if the networks between them wanted to discriminate against or in favor of s3 traffic i'd be against that

i don't care how cloud infrastructure providers price bandwidth between their own services and neither does net neutrality

net neutrality is just the government tilting the playing field for their buddies at the expense of everyone else, and it is being undone. Thankfully.

A VPN doesn't prevent ISPs from logging where the traffic is going you moron. They can still log everything else. Free speech never disappeared. Stop using Obama as your scapegoat.

>sending electrons at the speed of light is the same as flying boxes around the world

But not all traffic is equal. I would say the traffic needed to run a business is more important than a manchild on Sup Forums posting liberal propaganda like you.

CNN is fake news. But as is most other mainstream news.

A good example of the mainstream fake news was this recent legislation over the "landmark" rules that were removed.

The headlines in mainstream fake news were something like ISP's will being to "spy" on you. Anyone with any tech knowledge knows that was 100% complete BS.

So if Comcast wanted to start an internet streaming service that is only served within their own network, at no charge and that does not count towards speed or transit caps, then you'll be ok with that?

>running an ISP is free

The business probably purchases more bandwidth, which is fine, but it should not be treated any differently than individuals

*Laughs in third world country* (India actually) a shitload (literally) of population using internet so the net administration is lenient asf, additionally the new optic fibre companies don't even reroute their DNS through the central cyber administration so no censor and high speeds atm

>we dont pay for internet

That would be fine and in their rights to do so. Maybe they could do better than netflix.

You pay for internet at a certain service level. If you want better service, you pay more for a more reliable business connection. Same if you want faster delivery, you pay more for priority shipping.

How can you tell the difference between fake news and real news?

Ok, so when people rent AWS servers to set up a website, they also have to set up a connection between their server and Comcast? Holy shit you are retarded.

>propaganda
Soros spent overy 65 mil to get it done , obama did it for him , Trump is undoing it. Let the ISP's do what they want. It'sall good for business when they are allowed to be creative.

>It is extremely important for privacy
There is no such thing as internet privacy. As soon as you're on line or through a cell tower, you're being monitored.

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Pajeet my son, you must shit in street, not toilet

also do not use condom, they are too big for you

Fake News lie and push propaganda like CNN and MSNBC, especially Aljadzera and RT.

Real news is unbiased like Fox News.

that's fine as long as there's no discrimination against outside traffic based on source

so none of this "pay us $5 and we'll uncuck your youtube speeds" horseshit

>Also, Dems control CNN & NBC just like the Reps control FOX.
*The MSM is a tool of propaganda
Also, I agree that Breitbart is kinda shit. Your best off using Youtubers as a news source.

fake news = things i don't agree with.
real news = things i agree with

Sure, why not. It'll probably be cheaper than paying for TV which I wouldn't mind.

Also it was Tom Wheeler, the guy who's supposedly for NN, that said he was a fan of 0 rating.

Why does business tier internet cost more than residential tier internet? Are all business owners just dumb goyim?

Go back to Sup Forums cracker jack
Poo jokes are much appreciated there.

youtube and random news site that were created during the election cycle are the best source for real news

When you rent and connect to an AWS server, your traffic is first routed by your ISP, and then forwarded to Amazon. By default, any internet traffic you send is automatically through your ISP, even if you talk to a VPN. It's not that difficult to understand.

Every ISP now cuts there connection with the outside world. There is no internet anymore. There's the Comcast internet, there's the AT&T internet, there's the TWC internet, and none of them are connected to each other. If you are a subscriber to Comcast you can only use Comcast services.

w-what

NN doesn't control bandwidth, it just states that ISPs must treat all traffic equally. So if I wanted to access a site, they have to treat my traffic the same as someone else trying to access a different site.

So my AWS server will go down if the cables at my home get damaged?

Shit nigga, we start a new ISP.

>like Fox News.
Fox News loved hillary and is anti-trump.

TCP/IP over avian carriers when?

Oh Really? This is what happens without net neutrality (see pic)

And the new ISP doesn't connect to anything so no one would subscribe to it.

nobody would ever pay for that kind of internet service

if ISPs want to lose all of their subscribers i guess that's fine by me, this market could use a big shakeup anyway