Arduino fags, whats the difference between arduino cc and org? can two org boards be compatible with the cc ide? can an ethernet shield from org run with a cc board? are libraries from org be compatible for cc and visa versa?
Trying to get a project off the ground and wondering why they had to make it so confusing.
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>The short of it is that there was a falling out within the Arduino people and now there are two groups laying claim to the "Arduino" name.
>Arduino LLC runs arduino.cc. They are the steward of the Arduino IDE and libraries and own the "Arduino" trademark in the United States, and also owns the "Genuino" trademark outside of the United States. Arduino SRL (fka Smart Projects SRL) is the company that assembles(assembled) the majority of Arduino boards for Arduino LLC, runs arduino.org, and owns the "Arduino" trademark inside Italy and all of the other countries they have registered the "Arduino" trademark.
>Arduino SRL recently decided that they are no longer beholden to Arduino LLC and has stopped paying licensing fees for using the Arduino name. Whether this is justified or not has not been fully tested in court yet.
make of that what you will
>can two org boards be compatible with the cc ide? can an ethernet shield from org run with a cc board? are libraries from org be compatible for cc and visa versa?
Pretty much anything is compatible with anything when it comes to arduino, including the cheap chinese arduino clones.
good to know, at least i know thats not the reason the ethernet shield 2 isnt working
This is no longer true, now there only one company named Arduino Holding
But they've patched things up again, and are getting things back in step.
How long that lasts, who knows.
Not sure what the specs are of that shield... but I've seen some that actually have a a 32bit MIPS SoC at the center of the "Ethernet shield", running Linux, handling all the details, and exposing the network via serial commands to the arduino.
That sort of shit irks me. If it's a full blown MIPS system that small, cheap, and power efficient, I'd rather use that than the atmega for the project.
>Arduino
>2017
lmao.
Eng. here, move ahead. Arduinos are shit
What, have we all switched to the ESP32/8266 and Teensy masterrace?
You will see bud, you learn Arduino to make LEDs flash when you are bored. You won’t be getting a better job because you know arduino, they are a dead meme.
Sure, you can have fun programing useless shit on them but most of the time you will end up pasting codes you see on google because you run out of ideas and they are just awful as a hobby.
Get a raspberry or something more useful if you want to have something to waste time on.
>make open source hardware
>get mad when people copy your hardware
lel
I don't think a whole lot of people expect to put "Programmed Arduino's" on their job applications. Point is that you can make interesting little projects that would be overkill with an RPi or similar ARM Linux machine. You can also learn a lot about using various circuitry with some code.
Again, get an arduino if you have a fetish with LEDs.
People put “arduino” in their resume because they are the only ones that bother to learn them.
If you want to graduate as an engineer use your time learning some cad shit instead of learning how to make an alarm.
If you want a new programming hobby get a raspberry.
Are the chinese arduino mega 2560 ok? I mean can they do everything a legit arduino can do?
Are you implying that you can only blink LEDs with an Arduino? Why do you think that using a Raspberry Pi is just that much more beneficial?
Like I said, you shouldn't look at learning how to program an Arduino as your one-way ticket to getting out of NEET-land. It's just a fun hobby that you can learn a little bit with, too.
Yeah, any arduino can deal with dust-collector tasks.
Arduino is a microcontroller motherboard. A microcontroller is a simple computer that can run one program at a time, over and over again. ... A Raspberry Pi is a general-purpose computer, usually with a Linux operating system, and the ability to run multiple programs.
Geee, I wonder.
Well what I need to do is write to an eeprom to change hardware ID, not that I know how or what is the best way to do it.
OK, so RPi's are obviously more capable. But guess what would happen if you disconnect a RPi from power without first shutting it off? That's right, SD card corruption. With more power, comes more power consumption, as well, so the Arduino can draw less energy.
Frankly, using a full Linux computer to do something like drive motors and read the temperature from some remote location is truly overkill.
>Damn, I need to run another code.
>Better start picking up my 40 LEDs.
>Things get corrupted when you disconnect them from the power source like a retard.
No shit arduino fag.
>Frankly, using a full Linux computer to do something like drive motors and read the temperature from some remote location is truly overkill.
That’s why they teach normies how to use Arduinos in schools, they are too stupid to learn how to use Raspberries but they want them to feel smart.
Yeah? Imagine a keyboard made with a Teensy. Wouldn't you want to be able to fucking unplug it without having to connect via SSH to shut down your keyboard?
calm down kid, we don’t want your chinese arduino to overheat
>They don't teach how to use Pi's in school
Um, yes they do? Isn't this a big selling point for the Pi's? I've seen countless articles and stories online about how schools are bringing Raspberry Pi's into classrooms.
Every embedded dev kit/tool chain I've used has been its own circle of hell to get running. Everything is bad except Arduino. Of course there is more powerful hardware around but Arduino is still the best introduction to electronics.
The rPi will be a lot more fun with a bunch of arduino's though
>He wants to shutdown his keyboard.
>No, my arduino isn’t burning! It’s a feature!
>Arduino
>little projects that would be overkill with an RPi
Overkill for a $10 Raspberry Pi Zero W?
You can't get any kind of Arduino for less than $10 anyway.
Do a feature comparison on a $10 Pi Zero W versus a $10 Arduino, and tell me which one blows the other one away in capabilities.
This
Though I made a turret out of it and some old Legos and a cat laser.
Arduinos are good for fast test, they are as good as any MCU specially with the Arduino Zero 32 bit Cortex M0 core. Raspberry Pis are another league, it's Linux in a box, I wouldn't compare them.
>Get a raspberry or something more useful
>using a full blown SBC for microcontroller tier tasks
True, the Zero W/Zero is definitely a game changer. Still, though, there are applications where I don't want to strap a UPS to a RPi for something like a keyboard, or would like to have the lower power consumption of an Arduino.
The Teensy 3.x line is also a bunch of great 32-bit microcontrollers.
At least you can use it for another tasks.
> Still, though, there are applications where I don't want to strap a UPS to a RPi for something like a keyboard, or would like to have the lower power consumption of an Arduino.
>I'm a real programmer guise!
No, you aren't. Chill out your Arduino youtube tutorials boy.
>burning microcontroller
Not so surprising since you're too thick to understand what microcontrollers are used for.
>You can't get any kind of Arduino for less than $10 anyway.
You can get chink ones for $2 and you don't need an sd card.
>I don't want to strap a UPS to a RPi for something like a keyboard,
>"Me being lazy makes something better!" argument.
>2017
>" lower power consumption of an Arduino"
>Power consumption
Enjoy your busted USB port.
>for another tasks.
Like what? Do you even know what microcontrollers are even used for?
Do you?
Or you are excusing yourself for being a shitty coder?
>for $2
care to name some examples?
>Enjoy your busted USB port.
>just an atmega328 with a serial to usb chip on a pcb will burn your ports
Wew lad, I have been using three for 2 years now.
>This much butthurt
>Over Arduino's
Are you okay? Maybe you should visit a psychiatrist.
>Lol yeah, put a UPS on a Pi Zero for that keyboard!
To what extent will you go to argue about how shit Arduino's are?
>Power consumption isn't an issue in 2017
It is when you want to make something portable and use a battery.
>Using Arduino's makes you a "shitty coder"
Look around, unless you leave under a rock there must be an MCU.
>I've been a shitty engineer wannabe for 2 years
FTFY
REMEMBER TO USE THE OFFICIAL CLOSED SOURCE APP TO POWER YOUR ARDUINO SKILLS
Putting arduino in your resume just screams amateur.
It's just a cheap gpio for dicking around.
Even programmable logic relays that are industry tested and approved cost under a 100 and will look much better in your resume despite being simpler.
Besides real proper plcs like modicon 221 or 241 even start at around 200-300 nowdays.
They get hard pretending to be real engineers.
My bad, for a second I thought Sup Forums isn't edgy pre-teens.
Don't worry, they are probably busy browsing /mlp/ right now and forgot about this thread.
Look you autist, you don't buy an SBC if all you want to do is, let's say, a current meter with an oled display. You use a microcontroller. Why? Because you don't want to wait for linux to boot up for such simple tasks. If you want to do something like a robot which also streams video over wifi, you buy an SBC since that's impossible to do with a microcontroller.
There's no reason to get ripped off with official boards, in the end it's just a serial to usb converter, 5v regulator and an atmega on a board.
How about an embedded/ general?
Beginner/Pleb:
Projects involving Arduino, MSP430, PIC and AVRs. Sensors, Robots and LEDs.
Intermediate/Power user:
Projects involving Teensy, STM32 Discovery, RTOS, and peripherals
Linux based/Power user:
Projects involving SBCs, Raspberry Pi, Beaglebone.
Advanced/Wizard:
Projects involving FPGAs, Multicore architectures, ASIC design, Mixed-signal IC design, MEMS.
Optional> Mobile development:
Projects involving iOS, Android, Windows Phone apps.
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Shouldn't you be contained in your chink thread?
You aren't a real engineer buddy, you light up LEDs with a fake Arduino. How low can you go?
>get BTFO
>resort to ad hominems that don't even fit the topic
Kek
>he thinks a windows store screenshot is an ""argument""
Top kek, call me when your shitty dust collector has gigabit ethernet
>Kek
S P R I N G B R E A K
>muh aliexpress
So you think getting ripped off just for an identical board with arduino branding which is also produced in chinkland makes a difference?
>You aren't a real engineer buddy
Nobody in this thread claimed to be an engineer you insecure autist but nice projection. Why don't you show us one of your complex projects since you are so obsessed with this topic?
>still in denial without arguments
Kek
>Shouldn't you be contained in your chink thread?
I love it when openfags suddenly get buttfrustrated over nonwestern economies using open stuff.
Pathetic and self contradictory.
Nigger, get the fuck out of here, you're resorting to "muh spring break muh newfags" shit at this point.
>ARDUINOFAGS
>"MUH PROJECTS ARE BETTER"
>*ÛNZIPS 3X3X3 LED CUBE THAT TOOK HIM 5 YEARS OF CODING*
Shitty coders got mad? :^)
Get a trip so I can filter you already, autismo.
>still in denial and cannot show one of his projects
You seem to be the only wannabe engineer here kek. Enjoy waiting for you OS to boot to flash LEDs.
Thanks.
>it's a "brainlet doesn't know what microcontrollers are used for" episode
No problem, you could also buy an atmega328, an oscillator and two caps to "build" one on a breadboard if you don't trust the chinks. It's really easy and shouldn't cost more than $3. You would also need a serial converter though.
>you
Your*
Arduino is for little girls.
pic related my last project before I quit my integrator job 2 years ago.
I corrected my own mistake, user.
Are those PLCs?
Ethernet remote I/O.
PLC in adjacent building.
Arduino was conceived for artists actually. BTW PLCs are boring.
(YOU)
Interesting, what did they control though? Any details would be appreciated.
LEDs :^)
Wastewater management plant.
Lots of sensors of different kinds (flow, level, chemical composition), lots of pneumatic valves, lots of pumps and variable frequency drives, control and diagnostic signals for various complete subsystems like different separators etc.
Ebin
Nice, thanks
Eh...It gets more complicated now days. There are so many SoCs so cheap now, and there are 32 bit ARM and MIPS microcontrollers out there. Usually with less RAM than modern Linux wants, but not always. But you could conceivably run a multi-tasking general os on all but the simplest microcontroller boards now.
It's mostly in how you choose to use it. Assuming your vendor didn't cripple you like broadcom+raspi did.