Why is European infrastructure so god-tier?

Why is European infrastructure so god-tier?

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because of population density I guess

Partially because their countries are smaller and easier to maintain, partially because they spend actual money on it because they don't think that any kind of public spending is commie trickery on par with the Holodomor.

What is infrastructure?

>mfw German internet connections

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The Autobahn is so fucking overrated. Nothing but roadworks, shitty asphalt and constantly changing speed limits.

Because they have a 1st world tax rate

The small country thing would make sense if your country's population wasn't concentrated in a small strip near the US border.

you give too much credit to Belgians

I never understood why Belgian highways where in such poor state.

tbf that "small strip" is still quite big.

Even with that small strip it's still a large area to be covered and paid by only 20 million people.

that small strip is still bigger than every European country.

Because of Diversity

why it's unhabitable up north?

Not really. The first strip ranging from Detroit to the coastal border area of New Brunswick is about the same length as Sweden or ~1500km. North America might be big, but don't overestimate it.

don't act like you don't have departments, states and provinces and such. ''Eurpean infrastructure'' isn't just one thing built by the EU parlement. Every country builds their own stuff, some good (see us) some bad (see Belguim), and it's all linked up. thinking (and building) on a small scail is far better than just saying ''we're too big''. Also density helps obviously

Yeah, why would anyone want to get to Edmonton or Vancouver? They can just go through America right?

They are a North African country, you racist shitlord

>because they spend actual money on it because they don't think that any kind of public spending is commie trickery on par with the Holodomor.
THIS

It isn't, people do live up there mostly on native reserves or mining/logging/oil operations. There just isn't much to attract people there. No resources, no industry, infertile soil etc. There is just no reason to go up there.

>small scail
scale*

>Nunavut occupies the same latitude as Finland

This.

t. Literally my whole country is either toll roads or falling apart
You can't talk friend :^)

That strip between Detroit and the coast is only about a third of the way m8. Not to mention that our population is extremely concentrated. There are stretches of highway in Canada that are literally hundreds of kilometres long and have no human presence whatsoever. Plus our shit weather means we are constantly repairing roads that the winter kills, we don't have the time, manpower, or resources to worry about lonely stretches of highway in buttfuck nowhere when the roads in cities need the same attention.

Thats perfect place for refugees

20 milliion syrian

That isn't how climate works m8.

>what are currents and wind patterns

>t. Literally my whole country is either toll roads or falling apart
Our left wing governments are right wing what are we supposed to do?

Nice digits. I dunno user. The post you were agreeing with was right btw, but France has some shitty roads by European standards 2bh, so just thought I should knock you down a peg.

So the refugees can arrive more efficiently

Uhh not in Oberbayern.

Everytime i go to Belgium I feel better about our roads.
It can vary a lot between regions too.

I only care for densely populated areas that is why I divided the strip into 3 parts. The one between Detroit and New Brunswick being the first and most important one.

Except that isn't all we have to worry about m8, those roads and railroads between population centres are essential. That's how we ship goods around, we need to get wheat and oil from Alberta to the coasts, lumber from BC and Ontario down to the U.S., uranium, nickel and diamonds down from the far north and too the coasts and US, those roads are lifeblood of our economy.

The question at hand here is not functional infrastructure, it's nice infrastructure. We have a lot of shoddy roads and hundreds of kilometers of railroad that the lumbering and mining industries use.

Road infrastructure is literally the only thing where France is ahead of us.

REEEEEEEE FUCK OFF WITH YOUR CARAVAN. DELETE THIS. AS IF YOU CAN DRIVE MORE THAN 100KM/H WITH IT. REEEEEEEEEEE

It's nice in London at least...

Most likely because of how many fucking French, German, Dutch, Luxo, and a lot more trucks from everywhere in Europe drive on our highways.

Belgian roads are pretty much a long pothole with occasionnal spots of asphalt here and there

Actually, our highways have rencently been refurbished totally. The meme is kinda over now, just get in your car and see for yourelf. I would not be surpised Belgium has now a better road infrastructure than France. Also, like I said and

isn't this the case for capitals in most countries?

Because every few decades they blow themselves to hell and the US rebuilds them from scratch.

Looks a little worse than the streets in my area.

>they don't think that any kind of public spending is commie trickery on par with the Holodomor.
Didn't make a difference for us. In fact, the result was the opposite.

That's quite surprising, I've mostly heard foreigners praising the quality of french highways.
What they were unhappy with was mostly the insane amount of roundabouts on secondary roads.

For western europe - high tax and a lot of people living in a relatively small area.

>but France has some shitty roads by European standards 2bh

Nah the highways are very good, the rest depends which department you're in

Why don't you just admit that you've been a stupid twerp for this entire thread?

Your first comment doesn't even make sense. Once every 10-20 years or whatever it is, their bumfuck roads need attention too. Then like five other people jump in and correctly tell you that "uh dude that strip is objectively quite large", which you then objectively incorrectly shrug off with a "nuh-uh".

Excluding Russia, Kazakhstan and Turkey (none of which count), all that yellow-red shit put together is clearly bigger than the next biggest contender, Ukraine (a bit easier to eclipse now, admittedly :^) Add it all up and it's not quite as big as Ontario itself, which is much bigger than Ukraine. The above poster, who is not me, is literally right.

Then you veer towards telling the Canadian about his own country (again), he hands you your ass (again), and you keep going on "n-nuh uh no one ever uses rural roads ever, ever I'm Right". Brain-dead stupid, you are.

It has nothing to do with the US border dumbass. The most valuable land after the plantation era was the land between the great lakes and the st. lawrence river. There is nothing comparable on earth and only the african great lakes come remotely close.

the french have been in that area almost 300 years before the first american settlers REEE REEE REEEEEE

also our north has tons of concentrated cities which only show as a dot on your fucked up map. most of our land isn't arable but my grocery store in sudbury (nickel mining city) has a better selection and lower prices than when I lived in the golden horseshoe outside toronto

Well Canada has something like 3.5 times the population of Sweden, while having only twice as much roads in terms of length, so they can spend more per kilometre.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_road_network_size

Although their roads are probably more difficult to maintain in terms of logistics considering the country's size.

seconded, French roads are fine. So are Austrian and Slovenian roads.

Spanish roads are do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want seemingly-random strips of concrete or worse. One moment you're stuck behind a 50kph pensioner, the next you're overtaken by a 170kph mercedes. From what I've seen, Dutch infrastructure may be the best in Europe, but rush hour is still pretty bad. Belgium used to be scary, everything crumbling and Belgian drivers are most prone to road rage in my experience. Germany is mostly "that'll do". Low taxes on cars (car lobby) means they're struggling a bit with a lack of investment in infrastructure. Croatia has some god-tier highways and Spain-tier secondary roads.

My guess would be that Dutch drivers are careful slowpokes abroad because they're used to well maintained roads and very clear road layouts.

road network size isn't even the issue oddly, it's the frost heave in most secluded parts of the country that still requires unused roads to be repaired every two or three years. quebec and ontario have it particularly bad because they have most of the routes to the north and there is so much god damn fresh water everywhere.

>Spanish roads are do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want seemingly-random strips of concrete or worse.

Well I got a pic of the Franco-Spanish border near the Med, you're right

Rush hour in NL is god awful. The entire country is gridlocked for several hours.

I know what you mean about the Spanish drivers themselves, but their roads are actually pretty good, at least wherever I've been. I think a lot of this is to do with climate though --- the roads just last longer there.
The French motorways are fine, but they're all bloody toll roads, so I don't count them. Off the motorways, they aren't good though. It's a national sport over here to complain about our roads (potholes and such) but we actually have it pretty good compared to you guys.

This swampnigger speaks the truth. I think Dutch infrastructure was ranked 3rd in the world, behind Singapore and Hong Kong.

Still doesn't change the shitty rush hour though.

These kind of roads are absolutely fun though

That's bullshit senpai

We have very good roads desu

The UK's rail network is fucking trash tier.

Roads are "ok"

Literally a city state. Don't you Tulipfags ever stop to think that this just couldn't work in a country the sheer size of Germany, France or Britain? I don't think you realise just HOW BIG our countries are user.

roads are much better than almost anywhere else on the continent, ignore these yurofag memesters. our rail network is shite tho.

And high speed train network

Re-nationalize the trains and shit on Thatcher's grave

Well I've never driven abroad (except near the french/italian border) so I can't compare.
Like the other french user wrote, it's hit and miss, but I rarely end up thinking "this road is bad".

The spanish side doesn't even look bad actually, just less "fresh".

>high speed train network
>UK
nice shoop lad.

>roads are much better than almost anywhere else on the continent
Well France and Spain do better but everything is a toll that costs a fortune to drive on.
Trains are fucking awful, these things from 1975 are only being replaced by 2020 with the new Hitachi trains, and they're not being retired, just shifted out to rural lines that won't be electrified (like Cornwall and shit).

Literally even a majority of tory voters want to see the railways renationalised.

It wasn't bad yeah, it was just older
I've never been south of Madrid so I don't know how it is in the south, I guess there must be some fucked up roads but there are some in rural France too anyway

No infrastucture, the best infrastructure, so that governemnt goons cannot walze into your backyard and throw you into the colonies.

Ask for highway tolls then. Pretty sure all your neighbor countries do.

Also fuck Beeching

>countries/states other than pink or purple

l y l

castilla la mancha and murcia may not have been entirely representative for the rest of spain

>spanish high speed rail network
kek, that european money sink? Anyone uses these yet?

>that costs a fortune to drive on.

Well that's why they are good, and also why we have so many "aires" with gas pump, parkings, restaurants, hotels sometimes
But when you know the place you learn to avoid some expensive parts of highways by taking a regular road instead that costs nothing and won't slow you that much.

>everything is a toll that costs a fortune to drive on
This is my main gripe. The quality of driving also drops significantly when you cross the English channel. Their A/B road equivalents are worse than ours too.

Kek @ northern trains desu. Even the "decent" Southern ones are slow and wayyy overpriced tho. The French have that shit down.

>you realise just HOW BIG our countries are user

I can almost hear Americans laugh in the back

Enjoy your Panama-tier death rate on the roads.

I admit, I did roll my eyes a little.

>HOW BIG our countries are

that was my burger impression desu :3

Ironically, the death rates on road increased tenfold after Finnish government set the speed limit of 120. It was done for the sole purpose of putting citizens under Police supervision.

gotta go fast

>buttblasted speedlet

>speedlet
You wouldn't know speed if it hit you in the face, kiddo

Size is always relative.

TGV stronk

when you french people use a train, do you bring those steering wheel-shaped toys that make engine sound and pretend you're driving a vehicle at very high speed?

This is supposed to be a work-safe board.

Big compared to the Netherlands
Just like the Netherlands are big compared to Andorra, which is itself big compared to Monaco, which is hella big compared to Sealand

Of course.

No we chill in the bar

I mostly just enjoy the view or read a book
Did someone see you do that and said it was weird ?

that "small strip" is bigger than Europe

England alone would fit into Southern Ontario

Best Highways:
1. French
2. Dutch
3. German

How many Europeans, i guess in Western Europe, actually own cars as opposed to motorcycles, scooters, bikes, or carriage. Are there a lot of car owners in the country?

1706 km of useless rail t b h
If you take train in sweden, you will experience a delay, all from 20 minutes to 6 hours

lol looks like the Ontario-Quebec border

or the Ontario-Michigan border

>Bigger than Europe

Don't push it
It's pretty fucking long* yeah