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Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (try to use a search engine that respects your benis such as searx, ixquick or startpage).

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
wiki.archlinux.org
wiki.gentoo.org

Sup Forums's Wiki on GNU/Linux:
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
commandlinefu.com/
bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: /t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos: /fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
fglt.nl && p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE
jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

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>before bump limit
>no stallman pic
No.

trying to use pip to install python-spotify. as soon as it downloads the package, it fails because it can't find ffi.h... I have libffi installed.

Nobody cares what you think. This is a friendly thread please leave.

This is a troll thread and not an actual /fglt/. Go away.

whats the point of terryfagging at /fglt/?

I would suggest you to leave.

This isn't /fglt/.

I'm using Arch Linux, just sayin'.

So who's the cockwhore who fucked up /fglt/ then?

Just sage, hide and report, user.

we have dealed with worse OPs in the past
hardened, we will also deal with terry

>iwlwifi.png

DELET THIS

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I reported it but it's still up. Will you guys help me?

Is Tiny Core Linux a decent server alternative to Debian?
Considering it has a smaller attack surface?

Not OP but mark my words, I will dedicate my life to OPing /fglt/ threads with images you (same)fags dislike just in spite of your cocksucking selves.

GNU/Linux*

If you want to attack /faglet/ you should give every thread both "tags", so put fglt/faglet in the header
I'm sick of how this general became politicised and taken over by stallmans zombies. Fuck it, let it burn and something better rise out of the ashes. Remember it was called /flt/ to start with before these cunts came in here and spoiled it. The archive will show this.

Good idea

Installing Elementary OS actually just to see how it looks like

This. Last time i mentioned how fglt started off well and descended into Sup Forums level horseshit, the best justification i got back as to why it was filled with shills, trolls and shitposters was"its so much better now, it used to recommend non free software". Sup Forums has gone to shit over the past couple of years

I get paid by redhat to shill GNOME, systemd and other projects across the web reddit/Sup Forums/ycombinator mostly. I thought you guys should know AMA

neo Sup Forums pls go

I like systemd and GNOME 2bh. GNOME has the best wayland support currently.

I kinda hate how KDE is losing configurability these days so I am not using KDE anymore.

>Installing Elementary OS actually just to see how it looks like
Why would you need to install it isn't it a live ISO? Also virtualbox.

Once you've installed can you report the starting memory usage that screenfetch shows? I want to know how much it differs from Unity and GNOME given the recent Ubuntu news.

flt is a very new thread, pretending to be "oldfag" over flt/fglt says how new you are actually
I like native performance.
I can guarantee that it takes less memory than Unity

Same. I know that feel bro. Plasma is kind of a disappointment. Thank god we have GNOME to save us.

it's comfy famalam

What made me more interested in GNOME is that I've been hearing "rumors" that GNOME shell is going to be rewritten in Rust.

t KDE Shill

Anyone know of a good download manager available on OpenSUSE repos?
Preferably something lightweight but able to download all files or images in an entire page just when you feed the original link, like JDownloader.
uGet is nice but I couldn't get it to do that.

Pretty sure modern browsers have good download managers built right in

/flt/ was normie tier cancer
>reddit links
>shitty apps guy
>recommended distro: linux mint

You should be thankful to the guys who pushed the quality of this thread with great pasta, useful informations and help newcomers every day instead of spouting ">lelele toejam commie jew pedo" 4gag crap.

what distro should I use? I hate systemd, and am beginning to feel like the Arch developers are lazy and incompetent. I like pacman and the rolling release aspect. I'd use void but I love the AUR's huge amount of packages (despite a ton of them being terrible packages, abandoned or otherwise broken) to install stuff like mopidy-spotify and themes/fonts that aren't on Void.

Anyone else think it's strange that pantheon is in the arch repos?

Why would it be strange?

>Lincucks BTFO

But can you get stuff like streaming videos that the page doesn't offer for download and also don't have links in the elements section, like JDownloader can?

No, it won't.
It's going to use Vulkan for rendering.

videodownloadhelper and youtube-dl

Not sure downloading stream videos is the best idea. Always torrent videos.

No rare camgirl recordings available on pornolab, m80

Anyway, thanks, I have youtube-dl but never tried using it this way

Just installed linux for the first time, what are some must have programs?

>saving camgirl recording
What do you use your PC for?

so the endless systemd memes, constant Terry Davis shitposting, the GNOME/Redhat shilling and the rest of the bollocks that makes its way into this thread, you wouldn't consider any of that to be similar to the kind of "4gag crap" that goes on elsewhere?

And you give off about reddit links, but reddit has been slowly taking the decent Sup Forums posters for several years now. For some reason people who justify the the fall in quality of this thread seem to think a new general finding its way(which was started off by a beginner linux user so keep that in mind, it was as much a learning process on linux for him as it was for the thread) and improving over time as the same as a cancerous, reddit-esque meme tier thread

windows7

Coreutils.

He asked for programs, not botnets updates

mpv - video player, you can play video from youtube with it.
st - simple terminal, supports wayland, fast cute terminal.
tmux - terminal multiplexer, very very useful, you don't need to open multiple terminals, just use tmux.
rtorrent - best torrent client, supports magnet links, you can run it in tmux.

Still it would be nice to know the precise usage to be able to compare

never use any Qt app. It's 2 times larger for no reason, very buggy.

GNU/Linux*

Go back to bed, Spencer.

Fucking firefox media downloader only gives me thumbnails, ffs

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What literally everyone does when they try Linux for the first time:
youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE

Using kde I have to "dbus-launch something" manually or else chromium's file picker will error out with "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly."
A fresh profile works fine but I don't want to reconfigure everything.

GNU/Linux*

You're making it worse not better. You're going to cause a schism and fuck it up for everyone.

See this is why I refrain from suggesting apps by name.
>mpv
Considering the fact that he just installed Linux there is a chance that he's new. Bare Mpv is unintuitive and it has 0 justifications for having no control panel
I suggest SMPLayer, it uses MPV in the back-end and has a decent control center
>st
No real use for st exists. Everyone has his favourite terminal, mine is Terminix: you can easily tile, sync stdin, and do many other stuff easily in it
>tmux
Use a terminal that has multiplexer built in, no need for tmux and it's autistic key shortcuts
>rtorrent
No, as I said about MPV, setting up rtorrent is plain autistic. Just use Transmission or QBittorrent

how so?

No disagreement here

Do you get native resolution in TTYs with the proprietary Nvidia drivers nowadays?

Is arch good or is it a meme?

You're dividing the community with this GNUism.

Yes, because there are so many programs that ship with both a Qt and GTK front-end that you can compare.
Kill yourself.

Hi, can anybody help me with dual boot?

Every time I try to install Debian, my windows get lost. On reboot, grub appears, but it has only debian available for boot.

During the installation, it always says "windows found, safe to install grub on master boot record"

What am I doing wrong? How do I make it so that I can choose my os when booting?

When we ask people to say “GNU/Linux”, we are not dividing people. We are asking them to give the GNU Project credit for the GNU operating system. This does not criticize anyone or push anyone away.

However, there are people who do not like our saying this. Sometimes those people push us away in response. On occasion they are so rude that one wonders if they are intentionally trying to intimidate us into silence. It doesn't silence us, but it does tend to divide the community, so we hope you can convince them to stop.

However, this is only a secondary cause of division in our community. The largest division in the community is between people who appreciate free software as a social and ethical issue and consider proprietary software a social problem (supporters of the free software movement), and those who cite only practical benefits and present free software only as an efficient development model (the open source movement).

This disagreement is not just a matter of names—it is a matter of differing basic values. It is essential for the community to see and think about this disagreement. The names “free software” and “open source” are the banners of the two positions. See Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software.

The disagreement over values partially aligns with the amount of attention people pay to the GNU Project's role in our community. People who value freedom are more likely to call the system “GNU/Linux”, and people who learn that the system is “GNU/Linux” are more likely to pay attention to our philosophical arguments for freedom and community (which is why the choice of name for the system makes a real difference for society). However, the disagreement would probably exist even if everyone knew the system's real origin and its proper name, because the issue is a real one. It can only go away if we who value freedom either persuade everyone (which won't be easy) or are defeated entirely (let's hope not).

>smplayer
Ok, it uses mpv.
>terminix
If i close terminal all stuff in it closed also, it doesn't happen if you were using tmux, you can always go back to closed session.
rtorrent just works, transmission have good CLI.

#GNUwillnotdivideus

It's good.
Good package manager, recent versions of software.

Is arch still decent? Never ran into much trouble when I used it, aside from when I forgot to update for 3 Months.

what distro should I use?
I'm a pretty advanced user but havent used gnu/linux for a while, and can easily configure stuff myself and would actually prefer it. I'd like a pretty minimal installation. I like simplicity, so something without complex, bloated init systems and other software like systemd would be nice. I also want something with a lot of software like the aur. Should I just try arch?

If you want bleeding edge updates, then yes.

If you want well tested updates with minimal chance of breaking, then no.

The AUR is great, though.

Read EFISTUB article first.

Yes, because a casual user needs programs he launched in his terminal emulator to keep running that long.

Arch or Debian, but basically any distro which provides a netinstall should be good enough to set up something lightweight manually.

You should try Gentoo GNU/Linux nomultilib + any wayland environment.

elementary@elementary:~$ screenfetch
The program 'screenfetch' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt install screenfetch
elementary@elementary:~$
elementary@elementary:~$ free -h
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3.7G 578M 1.8G 270M 1.3G 2.6G
Swap: 3.7G 0B 3.7G
elementary@elementary:~$ uname -a
Linux elementary 4.4.0-38-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 6 15:42:33 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
elementary@elementary:~$

>st
lmao, why use a terminal with no features?
also st is bloat, just use xterm

/flt/ was better than /fglt/ commie trash

fuck off retard

>LOL, lets turn /fglt/ into another shitfest, I have the perfect pic for this
and OP was a faggot once again

Fuck off commie kike piece of shit

Gods world is perfectly just

You are in the wrong board. And no one is really interested in being pro/anti communism here.

>EFISTUB
I found 2 articles, one on the DebianWiki, and one on the ArchWiki, but I don't understand half of it.

>looking at the op picture
>caring about it
>even looking at the op at all
>looking at the gnu/rms/linux bikeshedding discussion

Normal people ignore the noise and only post replies to questions or when calling out idiots for having retarded opinions about software or distributions in general.

How easy is it to get the newest kernels on Debian? I basically need 4.9 or 4.10 because older kernels don't work with hibernation on my new laptop.

>"niggers have no morals"
>sucks his brothers' cock
>jerks off to cousin
>sexually abusing dogs
lel. Why don't you go back to his autism youtube vlogs? I'm sure he's putting on a circus show that appeals to autists like himself

Download the new kernel from kernel.org and install it yourself

>Linux creator Richard Stallman
kek
Reminds me of that Linux runs FreeBSD article. Anyone saved it?

>Stirring unnecessary shit up doesn't push people away and divide communities just because I say so
Ayy lmao, fuck off

Terry calls everyone niggers, it's a genetic slur he's completely removed race from.

That's actually more than Unity but still way better than GNOME and KDE
Ayy fuck off, divisive Jew cunt

Debian sid has 4.9 but as the other user said, you can always compile your own.
The official kernel comes with a
make deb-pkg target which conveniently produces proper packages that fully integrate and automatically update Grub for instance.
But compiling manually works just as well.
Debian is flexible in that regard.

I didn't put emphasis on the fact that he calls everyone niggers. I put emphasis on the fact that he calls people void of morals while he himself has nothing like it

Did you even follow the conversation that led me to post that memory usage?

P.S. You can selectively allow packages from different Debian distributions, like a sid kernel on a testing system. This can cause complications but it should not go unmentioned. It's called "Apt Pinning".
jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html