/pcbg/ - PC Building General-- sunday Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions.
State the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or improve specs. List the games or software you use most often. Use common sense and put some effort into your queries. GOOGLE IT FIRST
>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter. pcpartpicker.com >General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice (which is pretty outdated/shit), Windows activation information. pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed) >Semi-outdated information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc. wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>Pentium G4560 remains the best if your budget is only around $500. >The Ryzen 1700 is the only R7 worth purchasing. >i5 edges out R5 for gaming, R5 wins in apps. >i3 are no longer worth getting with zero exceptions. The budget choice is the G4560. Otherwise get an i5/r5. >Whoever saying locked i5s were useless were hedging on great R5 performance... oh well. >The R5 1600 is the best all around chip for the price, it's a better choice than an R7 for gaming. >SSDs are worth it. Expensive SSDs aren't worth it. >RX 500 series around 10% better than 400s >for budget builds, consider a mATX setup for case/mobo savings
There's been a huge upswing in disinformation in these threads, and in the community in general. At the end of the day, YOU are the one who loses if you take bad advice.
If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with and report.
first for way to fuck up posting the thread the first time, newfag
Lincoln Young
Currently deciding between an RX 480 8GB XFX GTR and a RX 580 8GB Sapphire Nitro+
Which should I get?
Gabriel Wilson
i'm trying to make a vid editing machine, is the 1800x worth it? already have a noctua nh-d15 for overclocking
Wyatt Clark
>There's been a huge upswing in disinformation in these threads, and in the community in general. At the end of the day, YOU are the one who loses if you take bad advice. Not that most of the people who use these threads would have the knowledge to figure out which is the "bad" advice.
Samuel Martin
cheaper of the two
Jackson Garcia
They are the same price.
Charles Smith
too bad, isn't it
Elijah Morris
>i5 edges out R5 for gaming, Don't alter the OP if you don't know what you're talking about faggot.
You've changed so many things and posted wrong shit.
>There's been a huge upswing in disinformation in these threads, and in the community in general. At the end of the day, YOU are the one who loses if you take bad advice. yeah. like this fake thread.
Jacob Russell
580
Juan Brown
you're a newfag, aren't ya. do more homework
get the 580
Mason Diaz
>you're a newfag, aren't ya. do more homework not an argument tripfag. i5s perform worse than than r5s.
kill yourself cancerous cuck
Lincoln Sanchez
>he's mad
David Price
Repeating old question. What I can do with this old rig of mine?. I replaced the Drives and gave it a new PSU (Be Quiet Straight Power 10 Gold - 700w)
Nicholas Green
hi i'm some fucking random reddit retard that doesn't know shit but wants to continue to make crap threads for internet points
also be sure to petition moot (that's his name, right?) to add upvotes to this site!!
Isaiah Young
>>i5 edges out R5 for gaming No.
Zachary Wood
I don't personally give a shit, it's just funny that the OP put a warning out there that won't be effective in any fashion while the same amount of disinformation is spread
Leo Stewart
pcpartpicker.com/list/cgGj7h I have some questions regarding this build. First, is the 1070 good for 1440p gaming? I considering getting an RX 580 8GB, but I would like to play games at a higher resolution than 1080p. Also, assuming I get the 1070, would that power supply be sufficient? I don't trust the Estimated Wattage. Finally, is that CPU cooler good enough? I heard water cooling is a lot better for higher end GPUs. I'd say my budget limit is $1250
Jonathan Morgan
Not sure why this tripfag has taken to making /pcbg/ intel-shill crap but here's a proper thread without the terrible OP advice:
Wyatt Taylor
Not much What you are trying to do game? Replace CPU mobo and GPU 1080p 60+ Hz rig
AMD B350 Ryzen 1600 16gb 2600+ DDR4 RX 580
People need to stop recommending quad core chips(4C4T) for gaming. Dual core chips are not an option anymore for games. Modern engines will make use of more threads and with DX12/Vulcan being pushed out more and more having more CPU threads is going to be a huge benefit.
Pro tip If you have a quad core currently do not upgrade to another quad core get a 6 or 8 core chip Ryzen 1600 6C1 @ 4.0ghz is going to be the best bang for your buck chip in future games
Daniel Fisher
580 is a upper mid 1440p card broseph. 1070 is a high-end 1440p / low-end 4k card.
Owen Sanchez
It's my old rig as I said. I'm currently running pic related.
Jeremiah White
>@ 4.0ghz Do I have to win the silicon lottery?
Caleb Powell
>pcpartpicker.com/list/cgGj7h Drop the X and get a 1600 Same chip unless you dont plan on OCing at all IIRC the tomahawk B350 has a bad VRM design Go with ASSrock or someone else I would never buy a 3tb HDD stick with 1 or 2 TB more reliable. I would get a larger SSD and smaller HDD
Stock AMD cpu cooler is actually amazing no real reason to buy a 212+
1070 is fine but you could run two 480s for the same price
Andrew Wright
Naw the 1600 chips generally will hit 4.0ghz Its the 1800s that are a bit harder to hit it 3.95ghz is basically the same thing Could just use the old rig as a HTPC or something similar Sell it on craigslist to some LoL kid or something
Kayden Butler
I have an ASUS P5Q SE2, P45, Socket-775 mob in an older pc, is it still usable you think?
Nathaniel Ortiz
DAILY REMINDER:
There is absolutely no reason to buy an Intel CPU. Higher maxs are less desirable than smoother gameplay at 10 less FPS.
Juan Thomas
Already told you. It's probably still good, but forget about good graphics on it. Your PCIe slot is done for good and the x4 slot will bottleneck your system hard. Get a new mobo.
Angel Jenkins
>stilll no proof of i7 stuttering except that one video where "i7 just doesn't feel right!"
Dominic Wright
do we know when amd will release the rx 560? I can't find a date online.
okay, what do you think about asus 68HM-PLUS? it is the cheapest i can find
Christian Williams
>clearly some bug in game's engine and only in GTA5 >only occurs when above 100+ fps >LMAO STUTTERLAKE HAHAHA Amd fans are really desperate. I can't imagine what'll happen with all ryzen's owners in august.
Joshua Harris
Lol @ 2 480s
Blake Hernandez
hmm
Austin Sanders
I don't see any i7 tests at this picture.
Elijah Martinez
Yeah, go ahead and kill your CPU, too.
Logan Lewis
Can you explain to me the difference between an OC'd 7600k vs an OC'd 7700k that would change these results?
Joseph Harris
Why will it destroy my CPU? i am new to pc building and so im not sure
Zachary Flores
How about 8 threads instead of 4, retard?
Samuel Morales
>hyperthreading You mean something that has been shown to give no noticeable improvements?
Adam Martinez
>w-we compare ryzen ti i5 b-because there's literally no difference between i5 and i7
Justin Parker
>i am new to pc building >doesn't know how to change a PCIe card >doesn't bother to google it >rips out the socket >wants to replace a AM3 board with a FM2 one Go to a PC store or do the research. Lessons you should have learned by now: Do research before you do something stupid, don't apply force to solve a problem, better go to a PC shop if you have zero knowledge and don't bother to google 5 minute.s
Oliver Watson
>I don't see any i7 tests at this picture. Because the 1600 competes against the i5, not the i7, doofus.
Christian Allen
>needing 5 mins to perform that search
Slow internet or slow reader?
Camden Lewis
G2 or G3 for a 1000w 1080sli build? Or should i get like a corsair rmx
Josiah Myers
just pulled the trigger on 1500x and a 480 how do i not burndown my house
Julian Johnson
christ you should have just had some gayming/PC store and paid them to do it if you're so impatient you can't either do the research yourself or brute force a GPU out of the slot like a monkey
Julian Ward
(You)
Adam Adams
>buying intel ever Enjoy spending 200$ extra (CPU + cooler + mobo) for marginally better FPS in console tier resolutions.
Nicholas Gray
forgot pic
Logan Gray
If only AMD had priced the 1500x just a little bit cheaper it would actually become a good alternative to the 1600.
Christian Allen
Bad thread, go to
Ian Clark
How about this one? What do you think is better, a few more frames at 100fps+ AVG or fewer and smaller fps drops/mins?
This.
Fuck this Intel shill's fake /pbg/ thread.
Austin Morales
>At the end of the day, YOU are the one who loses if you take bad advice >posts thread with bad advice you cant make this shit up
Michael Scott
Thinking of going for watercooling. Where do i even look for this shit? Amazon? Is ekwb the standard?
Brayden Jones
What is relative performance?
Brayden Thomas
... is this an actual question?
Andrew Price
I come to /pcbg/ every day. They literally never include any 7700k benchmarks in any of their intelsucks.png
Asher Peterson
Ive never heard of this metric. Relative to what?
Cameron Brown
>coming to /pcbg/ for advice Nigga this thread is for amd vs intel shitposting only. Go back to plebbit
Brandon Jenkins
Its a metric invented by amd shills. Fps is the only relevant gaming metric
Gavin Long
Relative to the processor that is labeled 100% - the 1500x.
If the 1500x gets 50fps@1080p, the 7700k was (on average) 10.1% faster, so you can expect it to get 55fps@1080p.
If the 1500x gets 200fps@1080p, the 7700k was (on average) 10.1% faster, so you can expect it to get 220fps@1080p.
Jacob Richardson
So the 7700k is better
Josiah Martin
>what is price to performance
Owen Baker
It was a faggot yesterday who changed it, probably the same shill or another fucktard who just copied it
Julian Hall
wrong. you mad bro?
Hudson Thomas
Are you serious? Lol
Julian Williams
In that case it would be some $70 intel cpu
Ian Hernandez
According to those benchmarks, the 7700k ($350) is 10% better at 1080p gaming, 4% better at 1440p gaming, and 0% better at 4K gaming, on average compared to the R5 1500x ($190).
Purchase accordingly.
Ethan Foster
Thanks a lot
Jack Martin
How is TeamGroup ram for ryzen?
Owen Russell
see
Jace Allen
mine works fine. team vulcan ddr4-3000 running at 2933
Jacob Reed
domain controller
Justin James
Is the Evo 850 250gb worth the premium?
Sebastian Torres
Adding you to my filter, tripshit
Joseph Bailey
Real non-shit thread:
Connor Jones
I have to travel a lot to China, mainly because I'm an AOSP developer. I want to have a portable workstation based on the new Ryzen 1700. Considering they don't have ITX Mobos yet, I want thinking of getting a mATX one with a Streacom FC9 as a passive cooler.
Do you think the FC9 will be able to hold a stable temperature under load?
Luke Hall
I realized that for the most of the things I do I require a decent CPU, not GPU. So I'm looking for a new build with a good CPU and a somewhat passable GPU.
I have decided to get a Ryzen 1800X. Can't decide on the GPU. so I need your advice. What GPU would you suggest for someone who mainly does -Software Compilation -24/7 uptime -4K youtube streaming
And how many watts of PSU should I be looking at? And what CPU cooler?
Joseph Adams
what's the selling point for things like the intel nvme drives and the other m.2 nvme drives? like, what is that kind of speed needed for? If it doesnt help with system boot time or necessarily load times, then for what? as a scratch drive? whats the selling point? also, why 2 pcbg? what the hell is going on?
Gavin Williams
Please help me Sup Forums
PC runs with ONLY the 24 pin hooked up, but as soon as I put in the 8 pin CPU, the PSU clicks and it doesnt turn on
Logan Wilson
>he doesn't pay poorfag CS/IT cucks to build his PC for him
Jack Watson
Built it myself. Pulled it apart to clean. Put it back together and I start having this problem
Grayson Walker
This build ok?
Logan Gutierrez
Why full ATX?
Elijah Morgan
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PICTURE?!
Isaac Hughes
>i7-7700K >Cryorig C7 >not delidding kit Enjoy your housefire.
Robert Martinez
Thoughts on this micro ATX build? Its not for gaming, GPU only for additional outputs